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it’s going to be a long off season if you all continually argue about the same crap every day

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:D YEP ! ......Nate Caddy

Watched him again the other day, his speed off the mark doesn't look good ....to me, as a FWD you need that initial speed, remembering he's only 192cm

Looked good in close, which underlines his good agility ....but a shortish fwd, with slow first 5 mtrs, hasn't impressed me
He’s got a wingspan of 204cm, so the fact that he’s undersized is actually a major strength compared to most key forwards, because it means he’s a lot more agile and has a lower centre of gravity. His huge wingspan obviously means he’s got a great reach and still has all the good parts of key forwards - it’s why his contested marking is so impressive and such a big part of his game.

Sorry to intrude, I just thought I’d add my 2 cents re caddy, haha.
 
He was 4th in our B&F in 2018 though...

Pretty good in a pretty bad year.
He started that year well

My take on Gibbs was he wasn’t here for the right reasons and heart was never in the club so as soon as it became apparent he wasn’t going to jag a late career flag he never had the right mindset/desire to be motivated in the way needed to deliver his best.

I reckon if the club had have continued on a positive path he would have been great
 
He started that year well

My take on Gibbs was he wasn’t here for the right reasons and heart was never in the club so as soon as it became apparent he wasn’t going to jag a late career flag he never had the right mindset/desire to be motivated in the way needed to deliver his best.

I reckon if the club had have continued on a positive path he would have been great

Why is it always something wrong with the player, never our fault?
 
He started that year well

My take on Gibbs was he wasn’t here for the right reasons and heart was never in the club so as soon as it became apparent he wasn’t going to jag a late career flag he never had the right mindset/desire to be motivated in the way needed to deliver his best.

I reckon if the club had have continued on a positive path he would have been great
Well, there was that infamous CM simmering underneath and then imploded. Gibbs was leading our B&F count half way through 2018 when both Crouch and Sloane were injured and then we all know what happened to the entire playing and coaching group afterwards.......
 

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Why is it always something wrong with the player, never our fault?
Not saying it is.
I just think based on the way things panned out. His attitude since that he wasn’t really committed to grind out the hard times he wasn’t expecting.

those hard times were 100% our doing in the 1st place
 
Well, there was that infamous CM simmering underneath and then imploded. Gibbs was leading our B&F count half way through 2018 when both Crouch and Sloane were injured and then we all know what happened to the entire playing and coaching group afterwards.......
Yep that’s what I’m referring to and from that his form/desire dropped away

im saying if that didn’t happen we woulx have likely fit very different output from him
 
Why is it always something wrong with the player, never our fault?
Here's a question for you .....whose fault is it with regard to Oliver's indiscretions

And no, I won't accept the Crows as an answer
 
Here's a question for you .....whose fault is it with regard to Oliver's indiscretions

And no, I won't accept the Crows as an answer
Both. The clubs coach sets the tone. The club recruited a known bad influence into the club. The player is obviously loose but that’s the type of player that needs a strong club.

Look at Stengle at Adelaide v Geelong, one club got the best out of him and turned him into a premiership player, the other couldn’t be that club.
 
Look at Stengle at Adelaide v Geelong, one club got the best out of him and turned him into a premiership player, the other couldn’t be that club.
I'd be careful of labelling the Stengle / Geelong situation too early .....had an ordinary 2nd year

Will Brodie had a superb 1st year at FREO ....then couldn't get a game in year 2

Atkins had a great 4th year at GC ....**** first 3 years ...are we surprised in his Contract renewal year, he pulls his pants up .....you can't say GC finally got the best out of him

Contract renewal year for McGovern .....suddenly he's lean & fit

Nah, it's mostly player driven ....all the Club does, is act as facilitators
 
You want to attribute blame for incidents so vague you can’t identify them ?
I can identify them .....haven't you kept abreast of Oliver's indiscretions ....I thought you were over everything
 
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