Injury 2023 St Kilda Injury Thread

[puppy_dog7]

That's crazy! basically 2 years wiped out for Hayes & Coff. Poor buggers

Seriously need to be looking at our rehab and strength & condition department now. Borderline disgraceful

 

[bird_man]

 

[True Believer]

DMac at 3 to 4 weeks is the most promising thing I've heard about him in recent times (if it's close to true!)

 

[my name was taken]

Devastating news for Hayes, 2 different injuries on the recovery track must be taxing on him mentally after the initial highs early last year.

 

[11men1cup]

At this point in starting to think Jack Hayes was a fever dream

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[XhazzafootyX]

They have finally updated the injury list. Nice to see a timeline on a few players. 3/4 weeks for dmac is out of the blue

 

[g_TRAIN]

They have finally updated the injury list. Nice to see a timeline on a few players. 3/4 weeks for dmac is out of the blue

This is the most accurate an updated it's been in a while.



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[crinkoes]

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Jack Hayes was listed at 10 weeks last week. Article comes out today about him being set back by doing his hamstring and he’s listed at 8-9 weeks lol

Transparency and these injury updates don’t seem to go hand in hand.

 

[Desperate saint]

At this point in starting to think Jack Hayes was a fever dream

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I think we may have a vague idea why Walsh left
Members hopefully back round 1 he was back round 5
King originally back in round 4/6 who knows ?
Coff back from an ACL does his hamstring then does his calf while getting over his string
Hayes does a bad Hammy when getting over a foot injury -major hammies happen under maxium stress and he was in rehab
Jones as well with a soft tissue set back
who knows with the other indefinates
I reckon Ross said enough

 

[Mowman]

I think we may have a vague idea why Walsh left
Members hopefully back round 1 he was back round 5
King originally back in round 4/6 who knows ?
Coff back from an ACL does his hamstring then does his calf while getting over his string
Hayes does a bad Hammy when getting over a foot injury -major hammies happen under maxium stress and he was in rehab
Jones as well with a soft tissue set back
who knows with the other indefinates
I reckon Ross said enough

think you could be on the money

 

[my name was taken]

I think we may have a vague idea why Walsh left
Members hopefully back round 1 he was back round 5
King originally back in round 4/6 who knows ?
Coff back from an ACL does his hamstring then does his calf while getting over his string
Hayes does a bad Hammy when getting over a foot injury -major hammies happen under maxium stress and he was in rehab
Jones as well with a soft tissue set back
who knows with the other indefinates
I reckon Ross said enough

I thought Lyon was just doing his usual press conference schtick when asked about what happens when players return and he basically said they don't exist to him until they are declared 100% ready - all i could think was that's bs, he knows what he has to come back. Instead, could he of just been playing coy regarding the reliability of returns.

 

[Joffaboy]

Feel for Hayes, said he had rarely had an injury before the knee.


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[SaintersUnite]

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Hotton and McLennan post bye


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[Saintos The ITK]

Hotton and McLennan post bye


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Really have high hopes for Hotton

 

[PandaG]

I think we may have a vague idea why Walsh left
Members hopefully back round 1 he was back round 5
King originally back in round 4/6 who knows ?
Coff back from an ACL does his hamstring then does his calf while getting over his string
Hayes does a bad Hammy when getting over a foot injury -major hammies happen under maxium stress and he was in rehab
Jones as well with a soft tissue set back
who knows with the other indefinates
I reckon Ross said enough

Dont forget king does a hammy in rehab as well.

It’s beyond incompetent
I love that Walsh was let go now instead of wait the year out
Tough going when head of footy is also a fitness guru
Ruthless cull continues and I love it

 

[Diehard Saint]

Well... s**t

Wonder if Walsh departure relevant with this?

Got to be the straw that broke the camels back.
I’d say it’s fairly obvious.
Recurring (different injuries) to King, Coff, Hayes and DMac and possibly others just not acceptable.

 

[sammm]

I think we may have a vague idea why Walsh left
Members hopefully back round 1 he was back round 5
King originally back in round 4/6 who knows ?
Coff back from an ACL does his hamstring then does his calf while getting over his string
Hayes does a bad Hammy when getting over a foot injury -major hammies happen under maxium stress and he was in rehab
Jones as well with a soft tissue set back
who knows with the other indefinates
I reckon Ross said enough

From my memory, It wasn't like that last year was it?

 

[stfan]

So with any luck we could have as INS for the Crows , Max, Caminiti and Webster.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Will be an interesting question if there is room for all of Max, Hammer and Members, as well as Owens.

Assuming Butler and Higgins (with Gresh rotation) as your smalls, Members and Max as talls and Owens as the in-between (also doing the 15% ruck).

Probably leaves Hammer and Poo battling for one spot (if fit). Good problem to have

Gresh is getting pretty close to predominantly forward too. Down to 11% CBAs against Port on the weekend.

 

[phantom13]

Gresh is getting pretty close to predominantly forward too. Down to 11% CBAs against Port on the weekend.

I would never have said this in previous years (I’ve advocated for Gresh being an almost full time forward) but we probably need to mix that mix up.

We’ve been absolutely pantsed out of the middle the last two weeks and granted Carlton and Port have good midfields it’s not sustainable to get smashed out of the middle the way we have.

Roll Windy, Gresh, Byrnes, Clark, Sincs through there along with the Steele/Crouch rest periods.

We gotta do something different imo.

 

[g_TRAIN]

I would never have said this in previous years (I’ve advocated for Gresh being an almost full time forward) but we probably need to mix that mix up.

We’ve been absolutely pantsed out of the middle the last two weeks and granted Carlton and Port have good midfields it’s not sustainable to get smashed out of the middle the way we have.

Roll Windy, Gresh, Byrnes, Clark, Sincs through there along with the Steele/Crouch rest periods.

We gotta do something different imo.

Were we really pantsed last week though?

We won the center clearances 14 to 11 and the stoppage clearances 23 to 21 and we won the contested ball as well.

JHF had a handful of very clean clearances which probably made it feel worse than it was.

Where we really fell down was our inside 50 efficiency and conceding 4 goals from defensive half turnovers/frees. Exactly what Ross said in his post-match press conference.

 

[phantom13]

Were we really pants last week though?

We won the center clearances 14 to 11 and the stoppage clearances 23 to 21 and we won the contested ball as well.

JHF had a handful of very clean clearances which probably made it feel worse than it was.

Where we really fell down was our inside 50 efficiency and concerning 4 goals from defensive half turnovers/frees. Exactly what Ross said in his post-match press conference.

Imo we were.

We won the hit outs pretty comfortably but only won the clearances by a handful but the quality of their clearances was the issue. They had a stack that were clean out the front of the stoppage unimpeded.
These weren’t scratchy hacks forward they were streaming into open air, it was only shoddy disposal from JHF and our defence being really good that stopped 4/5 goals.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Imo we were.

We won the hit outs pretty comfortably but only won the clearances by a handful but the quality of their clearances was the issue. They had a stack that were clean out the front of the stoppage unimpeded.
These weren’t scratchy hacks forward they were streaming into open air, it was only shoddy disposal from JHF and our defence being really good that stopped 4/5 goals.

I think JHF was the only one getting those clean clearances though. The problem was he had 11 including 5 out of the centre bounce.

Nullify his influence and we comfortably won in that area. The next best Port midfielder clearance-wise was Wines with 2.

Rozee, Boak, Butters, and Wines only had 7 clearances between them. Crouch for us had 8, Steele, Ross 5 each and Clark 4.

I think we got pantsed by JHF but the other fellas we beat pretty comfortably in there.

 

[phantom13]

I think JHF was the only one getting those clean clearances though. The problem was he had 11 including 5 out of the centre bounce.

Remove him and we comfortably won in that area. The next best Port midfielder clearance-wise was Wines with 2.

Can't let him have a free run at it again next time

I think we got pantsed by JHF but the other fellas we beat pretty comfortably in there.

Think that’s a real simplistic view of the set up. If JHF isn’t getting it they’ll put Rozee or Butters or SPP into the receiver spot. They worked hard to create space and they used it.

You can’t allow teams to get clean ball from centre clearances like that. If it’s second/third/fourth phase that’s another thing, that’s hard to defend but tap, shark, space. Totally unacceptable, and it happened last week and v Carlton.

 

[The Boar]

Imo we were.

We won the hit outs pretty comfortably but only won the clearances by a handful but the quality of their clearances was the issue. They had a stack that were clean out the front of the stoppage unimpeded.
These weren’t scratchy hacks forward they were streaming into open air, it was only shoddy disposal from JHF and our defence being really good that stopped 4/5 goals.

Totally agree with the difference in clearance quality.

Their typical clearance: JHF streaming forward and kicking to a leading forward (lucky he can't kick)

Our typical clearance: Over posses with handballs and a dump kick forward

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