List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management discussion

[Pns_blister]

What do we reckon Kai’s worth is? Essendon’s second would be a pretty good result.

 

[twhowler]

Lot of talk about Brain coming on. If Kai and Dev go, with zorko possibly going, definitely spots up for grabs in our best 25 next year. We will cop a year with bad injuries one year.

 

[briztoon]

What do we reckon Kai’s worth is? Essendon’s second would be a pretty good result.

Currently pick 27.

I have a feeling Essendon will baulk at paying such a price for Kai.

However, holding picks 26 & 27 would make it much easier to trade up for pick from Gold Coast, if WB trade up for GC’s first round pick.

 

[rye]

Lot of talk about Brain coming on. If Kai and Dev go, with zorko possibly going, definitely spots up for grabs in our best 25 next year. We will cop a year with bad injuries one year.

i would definitely like to keep zorko on if he feels his body is up for it and we can get another season with similar output to this year out of him

still one of our best link players between the arcs and probably only behind mccluggage in terms of players i want kicking into our f50

even if he has to be heavily managed throughout a season his skillset is very valuable and i do not feel there is a player who is banging the door down in the roles we deploy zorko in that he is keeping out of the side

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Currently pick 27.

I have a feeling Essendon will baulk at paying such a price for Kai.

However, holding picks 26 & 27 would make it much easier to trade up for pick from Gold Coast, if WB trade up for GC’s first round pick.

If we're offered 27 for Kai, we should make sure we have the getaway car idling on the kerb outside

 

[Sproj]

How is B.Coleman coming along?

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

How is B.Coleman coming along?

Still very flashy. The flashes can be brilliant, but it's hard to see a path forward where he cracks the seniors.

 

[jfn]

Does anyone know anything about Caleb Graham

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Caleb Graham

Age

24

Ht

194cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

5.5

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.0

3star

MG

63.0

1star

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

63.0

1star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.5

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.0

3star

MG

63.0

1star

from the Suns. Big lump of a fella, similar size to Marcus Adams

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Marcus Adams

Age

31

Ht

192cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

5.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

240.5

4star

D

5.0

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

57.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

6.8

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

235.8

4star

And apparently has a good leap. Seems out of favour at the Suns.

 

[Sproj]

Still very flashy. The flashes can be brilliant, but it's hard to see a path forward where he cracks the seniors.

Even if we factored in say two years once Linc is perhaps coming to the end?

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Even if we factored in say two years once Linc is perhaps coming to the end?

I would say, on the evidence he's presented so far, that seems unlikely. Still young though, he'll only be 21 for the majority of next season. Given his family connection and the fact that sometimes the indigenous guys take a bit longer to find their place, I wouldn't have a problem with us offering him a 1-2 year extension, on or near base rate. I'd absolutely love him to come good because he can be brilliant.

I'm sorry I missed the game against Richmond reserves at MVO because by the stats he played a binder - including 7 marks, 6 tackles, and kicking 2.4.

 

[p4p1]

Agree.

Also Jaspa Fletcher will end up coming off the full time wing role and being a terrific balanced midfielder much like Hugh McCluggage IMO.

I know it is really early but Fletch might end up being comfortably better that Hugh.

 

[Lace Out]

I know it is really early but Fletch might end up being comfortably better that Hugh.

Haydn Bunton ?

 

[Fitzroy bears]

I agree that Kai may have to bide his time to play that small forward role, but why should he be limited to only that role? Many small forwards have developed their skills elsewhere on the field. Chris Johnson, Aker, Saad, Papley, just to name a few. With Rich retiring, a back flank is up for grabs for a player with a bit of flair. I think Wilmot could transition to a wing next year, creating an opening. If Kai wants better opportunities, he may need to be open to change.

Does he have the capacity or desire to play another role?
TBH if he leaves or considering leaving, he leaves cause he doesn't have to change spots and gets more opportunities without having to do much else
It's the path of least resistance.

 

[M Malice]

i would definitely like to keep zorko on if he feels his body is up for it and we can get another season with similar output to this year out of him

still one of our best link players between the arcs and probably only behind mccluggage in terms of players i want kicking into our f50

even if he has to be heavily managed throughout a season his skillset is very valuable and i do not feel there is a player who is banging the door down in the roles we deploy zorko in that he is keeping out of the side

I'd go McCluggage > Coleman > Zorko.... very close though.

Blake Coleman still doesn't seem fit enough yet to play a high pressure small forward role at AFL level.

 

[Voss the boss]

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LIONS RECRUIT SET FOR ANOTHER YEAR​

IRISHMAN Darragh Joyce is set to continue his AFL journey for an eighth season after making the most of his second chance at Brisbane.

The 26-year-old was delisted by St Kilda after playing 13 games across six seasons before the Lions added him to the rookie list during the pre-season supplemental selection period last pre-season.

Joyce has provided extra key defensive coverage at the Gabba, playing five of the first six games of 2023 for Chris Fagan before producing a strong season in the VFL.

Darragh Joyce

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Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

in action during the R4 match between Brisbane and Collingwood at the Gabba on April 6, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
With Marcus Adams announcing his retirement due to his concussion battle, Joyce has been offered a one-year extension to remain at the Lions.

Brisbane has three Irish imports on its list with Conor McKenna set to remain at the club for two more years after playing all 24 games since returning to the AFL, while James Madden signed a one-year extension in July. – Josh Gabelich

 

[blueiris]

Would Kai for Baku be a good trade Lions get a 3rd key forward Bulldogs get a 2nd medium forward

 

[dlanod]

LIONS RECRUIT SET FOR ANOTHER YEAR​

IRISHMAN Darragh Joyce is set to continue his AFL journey for an eighth season after making the most of his second chance at Brisbane.

The 26-year-old was delisted by St Kilda after playing 13 games across six seasons before the Lions added him to the rookie list during the pre-season supplemental selection period last pre-season.

Joyce has provided extra key defensive coverage at the Gabba, playing five of the first six games of 2023 for Chris Fagan before producing a strong season in the VFL.

Darragh Joyce in action during the R4 match between Brisbane and Collingwood at the Gabba on April 6, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
With Marcus Adams announcing his retirement due to his concussion battle, Joyce has been offered a one-year extension to remain at the Lions.

Brisbane has three Irish imports on its list with Conor McKenna set to remain at the club for two more years after playing all 24 games since returning to the AFL, while James Madden signed a one-year extension in July. – Josh Gabelich

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[irel]

We usualy have a player from our feeder club Geelong lined up to come up to Brissie.

Who is it this year?

 

[lionshine]

Would Kai for Baku be a good trade Lions get a 3rd key forward Bulldogs get a 2nd medium forward

With news coming out this morning that Khamis has interest from multiple clubs and is assessing his options I was going to say I’d be surprised if we weren’t one of them. We were linked with him last year.

Coffield and Khamis would be a couple of high upside additions.

 

[lionshine]

We usualy have a player from our feeder club Geelong lined up to come up to Brissie.

Who is it this year?

Max Holmes and SDK for a future 3rd rounder

 

[Dalions]

With news coming out this morning that Khamis has interest from multiple clubs and is assessing his options I was going to say I’d be surprised if we weren’t one of them. We were linked with him last year.

Coffield and Khamis would be a couple of high upside additions.

Along with Doedee.

 

[Nathan Barley]

We usualy have a player from our feeder club Geelong lined up to come up to Brissie.

Who is it this year?

Isaac Smith

 

[Squizz89]

Re: Joyce.

 

[Berrygood]

Really glad we've given Joyce another year. I thought he was good in those 5 games at the beginning of the year. Sure he gave some free kicks away, but at least he was on his man close enough to do so. Good coaching and his time in the system and I think those errors will evaporate from his game. He's quick, tall, aggressive, and a reasonable kick. Suggests that Doedee is maybe just using us to bump up his contract with Adelaide. With Andrews, Payne, Lester, Gardiner and Joyce on the books do we need or can we afford Doedee anyway.

 

[Son of Superboot]

We usualy have a player from our feeder club Geelong lined up to come up to Brissie.

Who is it this year?

And don't forget the Hawthorn retirement home, **** is always looking for former hawks to provide some 'learnings' to our younger players