Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[The German Hunter]

The problem with Bonar is that he is likely to keep getting rubbed out

 

[theiaofseed]

The problem with Bonar is that he is likely to keep getting rubbed out

Lack of ability is his biggest obstacle

 

[hardway]

The problem with Bonar is that he is likely to keep getting rubbed out

Always been stiff to get rubbed out

 

[KermitJagger]

I haven't heard much about his coaching potential, but merely as a player, I would say no!

As a rebuilding team you do not want to paper over cracks.
You want to expose them by giving players experience and seeing who can stand up and/or improve.
This gives us data on where we need to focus without superficially improving results.

Sustainable improvements with players who can grow on the list together.

Wtf do you mean papering over cracks? That's not the reason to get him. Seems like most of you actively avoid watching Geelong games, but Tom Hawkins is one of the most savvy forwards in the competition. He is fairly unique in his ability to set up scores for his entire forward line, he's a big reason behind Geelongs ability to score in bunches and he's the perfect guy to help develop Lewis.

Our forward line needs help in all the ways Hawkins could help, from a development point of view. Bringing him in on a playing role transition to coaching would be similar to Brisbane bringing in Hodge when they were poor, which paid massive dividends.

It won't happen of course, but if it did it'd be great.

 

[Lickmesocks]

So I have moved on from the Reid dream now North have declared they are in for him. Armed with 2,3,14 and 20 we simply don’t stand a chance.

Pick 4 Chol and Massimo will have to do .

 

[TylerDurden]

So I have moved on from the Reid dream now North have declared they are in for him. Armed with 2,3,14 and 20 we simply don’t stand a chance.

Pick 4 Chol and Massimo will have to do .

Agree. I think this is us for the week. With Kosi moving on.

 

[SodaPop]

The problem with Bonar is that he is likely to keep getting rubbed out

His coach found his last suspension hard to swallow.

 

[rei154]

Has band 1 for McKay been confirmed?

 

[wizzard400]

I could never embrace him, I still have that horrible image of him in my head with that s**t eating grin on his face kicking the goal after the siren against us.

Geelong people ended up embracing Isaac Smith.

If we could get Tom for next to nothing I would be all for it.

 

[Lickmesocks]

Has band 1 for McKay been confirmed?

Dodo on his way to the ATM this morning to add the extra $20 required.

 

[Lickmesocks]

I thought the club said it’s not bringing in anyone over 28. Why are we chatting about Hawkins at 35?

Also Hawkins has a massive estate in Geelong. Imagine him driving 2 hours to Waverley and 2 hours back from training each day

I know we are desperate on here at the minute but yeesh this is right up there.

 

[chopflop]

If our rumoured #2 draft target is Duursma, it's possible our heavy interest in Reid is just a play to get North to give up 2 or 3 or maybe both to move up.

If we think that North like Duursma, but WCE don't, it makes sense.

 

[Sturty]

RnL save us

 

[Hawkspot]

I thought the club said it’s not bringing in anyone over 28. Why are we chatting about Hawkins at 35?

Ridiculous.

People have completely ignored our entire club’s very public list plan for years it seems.

Not around for our next premiership: not an option. Simple stuff.

 

[HappyHawk_1]

DING DONG

The trade period has begun and I’m back. Reincarnated, and alert to the rules set by moderators. I have made a pledge to be a better poster from now on. To make amends from my previous ‘nuisance’ posting, I will be adding value to this forum by posting some information I possess, as well as my opinions.

1. Any pick salary dump scenario is looking unlikely. This is unfortunate as we are one of the very few sides capable to do so. No club currently in a dire situation like GC and Jack Bowes last year.

2. Maurice Rioli Jr is a possibility in the Kosi deal. Unlikely - but if the Tigers are firm on their evaluation, our team will sound out the small forward. Hawks are after a small forward who can chase and tackle.

3. All systems go for Harley Reid. This is Hawthorn’s number one priority. By far the standout player. Could be generational. But Hawks will need to do their due diligence on his concussion history. Concussions obviously massive in todays game with all the protocols. Same will apply for all other draftees. If a potential draftee has concussion history, it is seen as a big risk and key factor for consideration.

4. Will McCabe could attract a top 10 bid. Many clubs rate him as the best key position prospect after Jed Walter. Hawks will have to be ready.

5. Aiden Bonar a name flagged. Yet to be offered a contract by the Roos. Could be a delisted free agent option.

6. OPINION on Jack Ginnivan - is burnt toast without the umpires. No good. No weapons. Hawks can do a lot better.

7. Bailey Smi… oh wait. You didn’t seriously think I was going there did you?

Great to be back Hawkers. Big 2 months coming up.

 

[Brishawk]

I thought the club said it’s not bringing in anyone over 28. Why are we chatting about Hawkins at 35?

Because we want free agents and no free agent that we want wants to join. We need experience to help lift up the performance level of the group. An experienced kpp would be a huge benefit.

 

[Tony3163]

Because we want free agents and no free agent that we want wants to join. We need experience to help lift up the performance level of the group. An experienced kpp would be a huge benefit.

It would be stop gap (one year?) and curtail development of Ryan, Ramsden, Chol etc for a short term (maybe) gain.

 

[Brishawk]

It would be stop gap (one year?) and curtail development of Ryan, Ramsden, Chol etc for a short term (maybe) gain.

Its easier to bring on one or two players into an established forward line than trying bring them all on together. Chol would play in the same forward line and benefit from lewis and hawkins taking better opponents. I think the other two have time to develop and wont be hurt by some more time in the vfl. We will likely have injuries or rest players and if they show they are up to afl then we can always park hawkins and play them.

 

[KermitJagger]

It would be stop gap (one year?) and curtail development of Ryan, Ramsden, Chol etc for a short term (maybe) gain.

Playing with a guy like Hawkins isn't going to curtail the development of anyone. I can't stand him as a Geelong player but I can see the many ways he makes his teammates better, and he'd do the same for us.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Playing with a guy like Hawkins isn't going to curtail the development of anyone. I can't stand him as a Geelong player but I can see the many ways he makes his teammates better, and he'd do the same for us.

It's a fair point.

I'd we actually had another young, developing key forward on our list you could make an argument that playing Hawkins could delay their development.

But once Kossy leaves we essentially have a key forward stocks of just Lewis and Ryan.

He won't be curtailing anyone's developed, more filling a glaring immediate positional need.

Of course it's not going to happen anyway.

 

[Hawkboy62]

MM is great at identifying talent it seems, but his negotiating skills haven’t shone through to this point. Hope he can step up in that regard from now on and the freight train gets some more momentum

Asking for a top 25 pick for Koschitzke is a good start! Tiggers top pick is 27 which will be pushed back to early 30's.

 

[KeeperLeaguer]

Playing with a guy like Hawkins isn't going to curtail the development of anyone. I can't stand him as a Geelong player but I can see the many ways he makes his teammates better, and he'd do the same for us.

It's not happening.

 

[dermott]

Will the AFL finally grow some gonads and award North and end of first round pick for McKay. Clubs are furious that North is being rewarded for incompetence.

 

[hawk for 37]

Haven’t been on for a few days. I open the thread to see talk of Tom Hawkins

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Tom Hawkins

Age

36

Ht

197cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.9

4star

G

2.1

5star

D

12.7

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.1

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.0

3star

G

2.2

5star

….
Thread officially lost the plot.

 

[TylerDurden]

Dodo about to fk us one last time.