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List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II
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The only players I’m attached to and invested in are:
Coffield, Clark are borderline, still young enough to be guns and make an impact with the above players. Battle, Sharman, Stocker and potentially Liam Henry too = good players worth more to us than on the trade table, and young enough to be peaking when we’re in our window.
Maturer players who are integral to our current side:
I love most of these players, they’re the core of our best 22, in the right age range for the now, and have a variety of experience from premierships to leadership roles.
You couldn’t trade all of them and do a ‘north Melbourne’, but personally, if the club saw fit to trade one or two of them to bring something valuable in to fit in with the first group of players I listed, I won’t be complaining. We need to start transitioning to that first group of players if we want to actually build a team that can compete in the top four in a few seasons time. The hard part is balancing the list so that we don’t bottom out too hard, but you’ve gotta break some eggs eventually… we are LUCKY that Windhager and Owens fell into our hands, that won’t happen again anytime soon.
The leftovers:
TLDR; I’m in the ‘we need to make some tough list calls to make a difference’ camp, because what we do this off season and the next will probably be the ones which shape the quality of our list in this decade.
If we continue to build for the long term and from the draft or from players traded in at an early age (aka before 22/23 years old) we will have a bonded list capable of a sustained period of success. We’ve got to bring the players through together in waves, it’s hard but that’s how the best clubs do it.
- King
- Owens
- Nasiah
- Windhager
- Phillipou
- Higgins
- Whoever we draft this year
Coffield, Clark are borderline, still young enough to be guns and make an impact with the above players. Battle, Sharman, Stocker and potentially Liam Henry too = good players worth more to us than on the trade table, and young enough to be peaking when we’re in our window.
Maturer players who are integral to our current side:
- Steele
- Wilkie
- Marshall
- Crouch
- Sinclair
- Howard / Cordy
- Webster
- Hill
- Wood
- Butler
- Gresham
- Membrey
- Ross
I love most of these players, they’re the core of our best 22, in the right age range for the now, and have a variety of experience from premierships to leadership roles.
You couldn’t trade all of them and do a ‘north Melbourne’, but personally, if the club saw fit to trade one or two of them to bring something valuable in to fit in with the first group of players I listed, I won’t be complaining. We need to start transitioning to that first group of players if we want to actually build a team that can compete in the top four in a few seasons time. The hard part is balancing the list so that we don’t bottom out too hard, but you’ve gotta break some eggs eventually… we are LUCKY that Windhager and Owens fell into our hands, that won’t happen again anytime soon.
The leftovers:
- Billings
- Mckenzie
- Jones
- Hayes
- Allison
- Bytel
- Campbell
- Connolly
- Highmore
TLDR; I’m in the ‘we need to make some tough list calls to make a difference’ camp, because what we do this off season and the next will probably be the ones which shape the quality of our list in this decade.
If we continue to build for the long term and from the draft or from players traded in at an early age (aka before 22/23 years old) we will have a bonded list capable of a sustained period of success. We’ve got to bring the players through together in waves, it’s hard but that’s how the best clubs do it.
CaptainRisky
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This is excellent work by Laura Kane (her 2nd big tick in a week).
It also makes GC's #4 an even more attractive target.
Picking on autistic kids is pretty low
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they take 2 KPP players with pick 2 and 3 if WC take Reid.
They'll have the best under 23 list on paper since GWS in its first couple of seasons.
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CaptainRisky
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Coops gives out more than he cops and i wasn't picking on him because he is autistic , nothing to do with it
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True but they were happy to dump kick in and lock in inside 50. I think that without much in the way of inside mids they had to design a game plan around what they had. They'd let you win the ball, apply pressure on the ball carrier and the next possession. Once they got it they'd slingshot it forward and lock it down and happy to take multiple shots. Never said it was from clearance. Just saying that long kicking inside 50 isn't a big issue if you can lock it in. It's not like they never won a clearance either. Just not their primary focus.
Lyon said, that there will be a list management meeting after the second round of exit interviews today.
Team will be brought in to review the final on the week then they are off until preseason.
Suppose we find out the delistings late this, early next week.
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hearing ross speak on 360 about gresham, we are in very good hands and if i was gresham i wouldn't be leaving for essendon or hawthorn. i think we need him to leave though (just my personal opinion)
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thanks mate!
Can #4 be seriously got? Or is it a bit of a fantasy?
They need points for NGA right?
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They need points for their academy, similar to NGA as far as I understand. Up until now they’ve had free hits at their academy players but now have to use points/picks to get them. #e#equalisation
The only way Steele goes is if he wants out.
Same standards should apply to every team , now they will find out how we have to cope.
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Dogs are in the box seat to get it with picks 10 and pick 15-18.
Pretty sure they changed the rules back so you can only have the amount of picks on draft night that you have list spots available so GC still need some decent picks to match the 3 or 4 bids they will have.
His autism is literally why he gives it out. He doesn't have the capacity to understand how others see his behaviour.
It's probably a fantasy but our 2024 1st and multiple junk 3's & 4's this year might be of interest to them.
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I could see a club looking for a lockdown small defender asking the question of Paton given he was in and out all year and is probably good enough to be best 18 somewhere in that role ..
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Doggies complaining about depth right before they trade two picks for one?
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Wow...I don't remember writing this...liquid visions...second in voting on the day will be Nas, coz he is the one putting it lace on Membrey's chest all day
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