Preview 2024 AFL Draft General Discussion

[Thunderstruck]

Interesting decision.

How much do you risk a 16 or 17 year old, against men.

For someone of his frame, I'd be more concerned about some of the men! But it is an interesting topic. James Aish played 2 years of senior SANFL and won premierships and was very skinny. JHF similar with 2 years nearly of senior SANFL.

I think a lot of it comes down to the coaches, matchups and the like and their respective views on development. I'm sure the conversations have been had about how to develop him but no doubt he could handle it.

 

[eaglevision]

Does anyone know if Ben Hopkins played at any level this weekend? Seems like he didn’t play for the CTL Stingrays.

 

[Sphynx]

Interesting decision.

How much do you risk a 16 or 17 year old, against men.

A VC coach from the 16’s told me he could have played AFL football last year as a 15 year old.

Thinks he’s more dominant than all of Reid, JHF, Rowell…

 

[Sphynx]

Metro will have easily the deepest midfield. Keen to see how the best 1-2 punch of O'Sullivan and Lalor goes against them.

Sharp will be one of the favorites for the Larke, even as an underager imo.

If Draper is fit, it’s SA, not VC as the main threat to Metro’s midfield.

 

[Wrenny]

 

[captain cotch 9]

North have too many mids...leave him to us thanks...

 

[Wild Bill]

North have too many mids...leave him to us thanks...

We don't have any over 190cm. He would be the only mid we should be looking at - 194cm he brings a POD to our group.

194cm goal kicking mid is rolled gold.

 

[nahnah]

Any star key forwards in the pick 23-25 range?

 

[RUNVS]

Any star key forwards in the pick 23-25 range?

If they were stars they would not be in the 23-25 range. The only really good Key Forwards tend to be gone after around pick 10.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Any star key forwards in the pick 23-25 range?

My advice would be to wait three more weeks until the national championships and then it would be a little more clearer but I have a funny feeling two or three key forwards are going to launch at these championships. As for the 23-25 range I wouldn't worry too much about it, with the technology and the recruiters these days they go anywhere and everywhere around Australia to scour the playing fields for talent and what they are looking for in terms of ability and potential.

Even after the champs still a long season for players who were either injured or that didn't get a go in their respective rep teams.to show late form and we know that is always a good pointer, we will have more of an idea then.

 

[Mister_Football]

Sharp will be one of the favorites for the Larke, even as an underager imo.

If Draper is fit, it’s SA, not VC as the main threat to Metro’s midfield.

I will take O'Sullivan and Lalor ahead of Draper and Sharp, but we'll see.

Love the look of Bo Allan as a mid. Big, fast, powerful, aggressive.

The more good players the better!

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Any star key forwards in the pick 23-25 range?

It's actually looking like a decent draft for key position players with a bit potential. Plenty of them are going to be available beyond pick 15 considering most of the top end talent are midfielders. Here is a list of key forwards who would be on the radar of most clubs, this is not including key defenders who could potentially end up as a key forward (Trainor, O'Farrell, M.Whitlock, Mraz ect).

Jonty Faull
Jobe Shanahan
Tyler Welsh (Adelaide F/S)
Jack Whitlock
Thomas Sims
Noah Howes (MSD eligible)
James Barrat
Harry Armstrong
Zac McInnes
Gabriel Stumpf

 

[Mutineer]

3 SA tall forwards you can add to the above names as well.

Charlie West 195cm currently has a groin issue but hopefully right for the Nationals. Ran a 2.9 20m at the preseason testing. Contested marking his one wood.

The 2 Central Districts U18's twin towers

Tallan Rosenweig 197cm kicked a bag of 6 goals on the weekend.

Charlie Nicholls 197cm

 

[Davo-27]

3 SA tall forwards you can add to the above names as well.

Charlie West 195cm currently has a groin issue but hopefully right for the Nationals. Ran a 2.9 20m at the preseason testing. Contested marking his one wood.

The 2 Central Districts U18's twin towers

Tallan Rosenweig 197cm kicked a bag of 6 goals on the weekend.

Charlie Nicholls 197cm

I remember Charlie West having a good game at the u16s champs, he could be a bolter if he develops right.

 

[Mutineer]

I remember Charlie West having a good game at the u16s champs, he could be a bolter if he develops right.

Bit surprised WWT tall Tom Luck isn't in the final SA State Squad for the Championships as well given he's shown a bit coming through the junior pathways, AA at the U16's level. Could easily be developed as a tall forward.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Bit surprised WWT tall Tom Luck isn't in the final SA State Squad for the Championships as well given he's shown a bit coming through the junior pathways, AA at the U16's level. Could easily be developed as a tall forward.

What I saw of Tom Luck last year I liked so reading this is a bit disappointing.

 

[SMP]

All the APS schools have elite facilities, elite coaching around future elite players. If they're not at the school, they can be recruited, even interstate. Eg. Ryley Sanders, Nathan Sulzberger.

Most of the kids can afford the extras, the parents have high expectations, the coaching staff are experienced, everyone's connected to someone professionally, agents sign kids there, recruiters turn up to games - it builds this system. Nobody is scouting a Year 12 game out at Western suburbs game.

Vic Country still has a heavy private school influence. Few more public school or genuine country kids but still, money makes the difference.

There are fewer kids these days who grew up tough. That said, there are examples and that's why I rate the kids like Seth Campbell who overcame a lot just to make it.

All of this is spot on.
The APS broadcast via their Twitter feed, on release of the 31 player Vic Metro squad, that 20 are APS kids ! Surely some kind of record….
More than likely 2/3 minimum are scholarship recruits of that 20. Hence prior commentary again backed up on the cream being concentrated.
Families also play a role in this ‘arms race’ with numerous tales of kids being shipped around for the best deal.
Crazily of the 20, there’s 8 from Brighton Grammar - refer above point.
Head of sport @ BGS, also lured from Carey having been Footy Director, when Rowell, Anderson, N. Dacois were ‘attending’.
The metro school footy scene in VIC is just now this way. Along with the regional recruits now residing in the boarding houses of those schools who have them.

 

[Tandy]

Good to see Cody Anderson in the squad. My fav talent league player to watch

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Has the VC squad been named and unveiled?

 

[Jen2310]

Has the VC squad been named and unveiled?

No, closer to the first game is what I read.

 

[The Talent Scout]

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Good to see Cody Anderson in the squad. My fav talent league player to watch

Cody is a good player, he reminds me a lot of Chris Mainwaring! Gone way to early, 41 years old. What a player!

 

[Mutineer]

Sid Draper resumes from his bout of Shin Splints for the SA U18's trial game on Sunday morning against the GWS/Sydney Academy team. 10.30AM ACST at Thebarton Oval. Live streamed on Kommunity TV if you have a Newscorp subscription.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/live-streams/aussie-rules/live-stream-sa-u18s-start-national-championship-buildup-with-clash-against-sydneygws-academies/news-story/339cc332e3e4aa6e63306f58d24a5df0

Live stream: SA U18s start national championship build-up with clash against Sydney/GWS Academies​

With the national championships looming large, South Australia’s top young footy players will be out to impress against a Sydney/GWS Academies side on Sunday. Catch it LIVE from 10.30am.

With the national championships looming large, South Australia’s top young footy players will be out to impress against a Sydney/GWS Academies side on Sunday. Catch it LIVE from 10.30am.

Positions in South Australia’s U18 boys team for this year’s AFL National Championships will be “up for grabs’’ at Thebarton Oval on Sunday.
The Croweaters are expected to rotate 28 players through an important trial game against


a Sydney/GWS Academies side, with coach Tony Bamford declaring “there are still plenty of spots up for grabs’’.

“A good performance this weekend will help a lot when we select our team to play the Allies in two weeks,’’ Bamford said.

“As coaches, we are looking to see which players can understand the role that we are going to ask them to play, given we are going to rotate quite a few players through the game.

“We are looking for players who understand what the role requires them to do and whether they can perform it under a bit of pressure.

“On top of that, we are looking for players who really want to stake their claim for the first nationals game.’’

You can catch the trial game LIVE and EXCLUSIVE on KommunityTV as part of the three-year deal between SANFL and News Corp which will showcase the best young male and female talent in the state.

SA will begin their national championship campaign against the reigning champion Allies on Sunday, May 26, in Adelaide.

The championships will involve five teams - SA, the Allies (comprising ACT, New South Wales, Northern Territory, Queensland and Tasmania), Victoria Country, Victoria Metro and Western Australia.

The five teams will play each other once in a round-robin series, which ends with the two Victorian sides clashing on July 14.



Star Croweater Sid Draper - in top-five AFL draft contention this year - is expected to play his first game of the season on Sunday as he returns from a bad shin injury.

Bamford said that provided Draper gets through training unscathed this week he would play “about a quarter-and-a-half’’ against the Academies side as he is eased back into action.

Draper has been named SA’s captain for the championships, with Ben Camporeale and Kade Herbert vice-captains and Lucas Camporeale and Phoenix Hargrave deputy vice-captains.

Crows father-son prospect Tyler Welsh will line up for SA, along with Carlton father-son draft hopes Ben and Lucas Camporeale, who are the twin sons of Blues premiership midfielder Scott Camporeale

Scott Camporeale

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49

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180cm

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80kg

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Mid

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20.9

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14.9

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6.0

4star

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3.0

3star

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1.9

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16.0

4star

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11.4

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4.6

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2.8

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2.0

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Those already ruled out of Sunday’s game through injury include the Eagles’ Charlie West (groin) and Logan Hughes (knee), Central District’s Ryan Lane-Ellis (foot), South Adelaide’s Benny Barrett (hamstring) and Norwood’s Noah Daw (broken collarbone).

Over-age key forward Noah Howes won’t play because of league commitments with the Panthers.

He booted three goals in an impressive league performance against reigning premier Glenelg last Sunday.

Bamford is pleased with the talent at his disposal this season, believing SA’s midfield stocks run deeper than last year.

“We have significantly more midfield depth than we had last year, which will help us maintain intensity around the ball for longer periods because we can spread the workload across about eight-to-10 players as opposed to four-to-six last season,’’ he said.

“I’m pretty confident we have some good midfielders who will give our forwards a good look at it.

“Our strength is our midfield while we have some talent ahead of the ball and some developing players behind the ball.’’

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Team lists for tomorrow's SA U18's vs Swans/Giants Academies trial game:

South Australia U18	Swans/Giants Academies
2 Lucas Camporeale	3 Nicholas Andreacchio
3 Benjamin Camporeale	4 Lachlan Carmichael
4 Ned Bowman	5 Declan Fitzpatrick
5 Evan Bradley	6 Joe Harrison
7 Sid Draper	7 Kaiden McNamara
8 Kade Herbert	8 Max Rider
9 Louie Montgomery	9 Josaia Delana
10 Luke Candy	10 Isaac Baldwin
11 Phoenix Hargrave	11 Lachlan Moresi
12 Joshua Reichelt	12 Coby Hilton
13 Dakota Sterzl	13 Jensen Hargreaves
14 Samuel Cumming	14 Noah Chamberlain
15 Matthew LeRay	15 Joel Cochran
16 Angus Clarke	16 Ned Hawkins
17 Jacob Newton	17 Jeromos Mills-Vasas
18 Rome Burgoyne	18 Tom Ryan
19 Harley Barker	19 Nicholas Fischer
22 Jett Hasting	20 Jackson Savage
23 Harry Dodd	21 Riley Hamilton
24 Dyson Sharp	22 Riley Hayman
25 Charlie Nicholls	23 Charlie McCormack
27 Ned Atkinson	25 Harrison Podmore-Taylor
28 Tate Delmenico	26 Logan Smith
29 Jevan Phillipou	27 Cooper Bell
30 Tallan Rosenzweig
31 Thomas McKay
33 Aidan Schubert
34 Jacob Sheean
37 Ryan Borlace
40 Alexander Dodson
42 Tyler Welsh

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Any star key forwards in the pick 23-25 range?

TALLAN ROSENZWEIG (Central District/Faith Lutheran College) Key forward, 17, 197cm

“He’s the same height as Charlie (Nicholls) but he plays a bit deeper as a key forward. He’s very good on the lead, possessing really good leading patterns, and manages to get plenty of shots on goal for us. Tallan needs to tidy up his goalkicking accuracy a bit because he had eight scoring shots against North Adelaide in Round 2 and kicked 4.4. He also booted 2.3 in the next two games against Sturt and West Adelaide, so he needs to capitalise on his opportunities a bit more. But he is developing well and can also take a strong contested mark.’’ – Central Centre of Excellence and under-18s coach Kyle Jenner.

CHARLIE WEST (Woodville-West Torrens/Immanuel College) Key forward/ruck, 18, 195cm

“Charlie’s contested marking is his greatest weapon. He took 42 marks, including 20 contested, in six games as a bottom-ager at under-18 level last season, which highlights his marking ability. At his SANFL testing in February, he ran the 20m sprint in 2.9 seconds, which shows he has genuine speed for his size as well. He is the grandson of Wayne Jackson (former Eagles player and president and AFL chief executive) and is very much in contention for this year’s draft pool. He was an emergency for our league team in Round 1 but is carrying a bit of a groin injury at the moment. Charlie has massive upside.’’ – Eagles under-18 coach Shane Reardon.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

RMC's scouting notes from the weekend's SA vs NSW Academies trial game:

Scouting Notes: South Australia vs. Giants/Swans Academies

South Australia overcame a combined Giants and Swans Academy side in the first of its two Under 18 trials. We took note of the top prospects.

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