Preview 2024 AFL Draft General Discussion

[Sarcoidevo]

If Richmond needed to shed a pick in this draft, and move it into 2025, why would they not have done that in the trade period? I mean the late picks we have may be moved on, for Futures and for later picks, maybe

But not 10 and 11.

They have heaps of chances to do it infact we traded F3 to get 24 from Gold coast over the line, so that logic does not work.

Richmond do not need to shed anything in this draft, the funniest story is the one that says that they cannot afford to draft 8 players in this draft because they will all come out of contract together.

Um it is not actually how things work.

Pick 1-20 have three year contracts
Pick 21+ have two year contracts

Any player can be offered a longer contract at any time

If lalor kills it in his first year, even if he doesn't, but he looks good, Richmond would just offer him another contract for another 2/3/4 years,

All these players killing it, and coming out of contract is a good thing, not a bad thing.

This is all written in the context that RM believe this years draft is much better than next years

It depends what is available at Pick 8 in the draft .... they didn't have to do it during the trade period because they can pick swap in draft night.

Come draft night .... if a player they desperately want is available at Pick 8 and Saints & Melbourne are a chance to select that player then maybe Tigers pull the trigger on that deal ... you obviously covet pick 10 & 11 over pick 8 and a F1 ... fair enough .... you also covet having 8 picks in the Top 24 of this year's draft rather than having 7 picks and an extra First rounder in next year's ... fair enough

 

[Rich01]

Impossible they offer their F1 for pick 22( which 18 will be) by itself.

Going Cal's Sep form guide, he has the below players from 15 till 23
Hotton, Trainor, Berry, Lindsay, Shanahan, J.Whitlock, Hynes, Faull, Dattoli, M.Whitlock, Dodson

If one of these players are available at Tigers pick 18( which ill be 21/22), do you expect Bombers to trade F1 to get them?

Bombers F1 would likely be a Top 8 pick, I can't see this happening.

So I hope Tigers are ready to use all their picks.

If any of Hotton, Trainor, Shanahan, Berry and Lindsay are available at pick 18 we wouldn’t be trading it.

 

[Oscarman]

North taking Smillie at 2?

 

[THE_GUN]

Impossible they offer their F1 for pick 22( which 18 will be) by itself.

Going Cal's Sep form guide, he has the below players from 15 till 23
Hotton, Trainor, Berry, Lindsay, Shanahan, J.Whitlock, Hynes, Faull, Dattoli, M.Whitlock, Dodson

If one of these players are available at Tigers pick 18( which ill be 21/22), do you expect Bombers to trade F1 to get them?

Bombers F1 would likely be a Top 8 pick, I can't see this happening.

So I hope Tigers are ready to use all their picks.

No reason why we wouldn't be
Dusty , Bolton,Baker , Grimes,Naismith,Graham,Rioli,Pickett all gone (8 spots)

We could easily delist another 5 if we had to use all 8 picks Cumberland , Dow , Mcintosh , Colina , Coulthard all still remain without a contract offer.

But 1st Pick on the 2nd day has always had overs offered for them and in this draft both pick #23 and #24 will have clubs chasing them and it wont be for F2's
Gold Coast , Essendon , Geelong , North , West Coast have all made noice they want back into this draft
Pick #23 this year will be rated much higher than in 2025 so thats a F1

 

[THE_GUN]

North taking Smillie at 2?

Wouldnt surprise to see him available at pick #8

 

[Tommy Wigs]

If you think that 18+ 23 in this draft will be required to get an f1 in 2025 you are in for a big surprise on draft night .

18 will get f1 with Bells on, and even then unless it’s nth I doubt Richmond bothers

I agree. Clubs will have guys in their top 8 or so getting out to 20 just because everyone will see it differently.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Wouldnt surprise to see him available at pick #8

Post Ashcroft or without him?

 

[GC2015]

Yep because he got a private school education down here

He attended an elite private school while based on the Gold Coast too. It's not like you plucked him out of a government school.

 

[botts]

He attended an elite private school while based on the Gold Coast too. It's not like you plucked him out of a government school.

I don’t think there would of been much difference in his football wether he stayed up there or down here

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Post Ashcroft or without him?

Could easily see Tauru slide in front of him and I think some might prefer enough others to him to see him slide as late as 10 or 11. Unlikely but it wouldn’t shock me. He had a fairly underwhelming champs compared to the rest of the perceived top 10 in this draft and had no real excuse comparative to say O’Sullivan for doing so.

 

[briztoon]

Bombers pick 28 and 31 are both not needed for points even if Kako is bid on at 8. They have more than enough.

Wonder what their plans are to trade for that. IMO would make more sense to offer both for tigers pick 20

Why would a team holding 8 high picks split one for two lower picks, just doesn't make sense.

and then try to swap 20 out for a F1, any F1.

I doubt any bottom 8 team is offering their F2 for just one of them as both will be pick in 30's after the bids.

Not sure if you've followed any commentary about next year's draft, but it's possible we'll see the longest first round in history, with the number of potential academy and father son kids in the second half of next year's first round. This is a large reason why so many teams want to trade out of next years draft.

Would like Hawks to offer Blues F2 for one of them if Hawks find no one bites on their Blues F1 offers for teen picks.

There is option for them to trade pick 28 to a team's F2 and after Kako bid trade back that team's 2nd rounder for their F2.

Repeat same for pick 31.

 

[briztoon]

He attended an elite private school while based on the Gold Coast too. It's not like you plucked him out of a government school.

Was he on scholarship at TSS?

What school did he go to in Melbourne?

 

[GoRoos2023]

Yeah I can't see us trading up.

The talk is that Richmond may need to shed a pick and get another in next year's draft

Would Tigers consider Saints pick 8 + our F1 for 10 & 11?

Tigers would have 1 6 8 in the draft + Saints F1

Saints have 7 10 11 in this years draft less F1 in next year's

Saints F1 would be around pick 5 to 12 and Tigers get a 2 pick upgrade but still have plenty of picks in this year's draft ... they would get ahead of Melbourne's pick 9

I can see something lime our 2/F1 for Saints 7/8 future 2.

 

[Ura]

I can see something lime our 2/F1 for Saints 7/8 future 2.

That would be such a terrible deal for us.

Pick 2 and highly likely top 5 pick for 7/8 and at best 19 but a lot more likely 25.
Saints also unlikely to deal unless one sided like that so they can build in this draft

Our F1 is far more valuable. I would be aiming F1 to Tigers for 11 and 20. Lose on next year but build one group in similar age bracket.

 

[richoatthedisco]

I would be aiming F1 to Tigers for 11 and 20.

Not a chance in hell.

 

[Mich0]

Find it hilarious these geniuses who keep sprouting dees “need a key forward”. Yeah maybe back in 2021 we did, now we have JvR, Jefferson, Turner, Petty, Kentfield and Fullerton on our list developing. If we take another they won’t even get a run in the 2s.

We have also lost Brayshaw, Harmes, Jordan, Dunstan and Neal-Bullen as mids in last 12 months.

But yeah, we are going to take Armstrong in a midfielders draft with a top pick so he can develop in our 3rds.

 

[GC2015]

I don’t think there would of been much difference in his football wether he stayed up there or down here

Guess we'll never know. I just think moving to Melbourne isn't always the best option for everyone.

Was he on scholarship at TSS?

What school did he go to in Melbourne?

Coomera Anglican College IIRC. Went to Carey Grammar in Melbourne.

 

[GoTigers2015]

Top 10 Phantom Draft

1 Richmond Sam Lalor
2 North Finn O'Sullivan
3 Brisbane Levi Ashcroft (matched bid)
4 Carlton Jagga Smith
5 Adelaide Sid Draper
6 Melbourne Harvey Langford
7 Richmond Josh Smillie
8 Essendon Isaac Kako (matched bid)
9 Gold Coast Leo Lombard (matched bid)
10 StKilda Tobie Travaglia

 

[Mostyn]

Find it hilarious these geniuses who keep sprouting dees “need a key forward”. Yeah maybe back in 2021 we did, now we have JvR, Jefferson, Turner, Petty, Kentfield and Fullerton on our list developing. If we take another they won’t even get a run in the 2s.

We have also lost Brayshaw, Harmes, Jordan, Dunstan and Neal-Bullen as mids in last 12 months.

But yeah, we are going to take Armstrong in a midfielders draft with a top pick so he can develop in our 3rds.

To be fair, that line up of key forwards is a murderer's row of "probably not going to make it". By my count, there's one okay forward, one defender, and a lot of unlikelies.

I think Shanahan makes a lot of sense for your second pick.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Could easily see Tauru slide in front of him and I think some might prefer enough others to him to see him slide as late as 10 or 11. Unlikely but it wouldn’t shock me. He had a fairly underwhelming champs compared to the rest of the perceived top 10 in this draft and had no real excuse comparative to say O’Sullivan for doing so.

Think it’s very likely that someone will move for a Tauru or Armstrong. I was just hoping you meant pick 8 (leaving aside the FS / Academy) so that we can get two mids