Analysis 2024 AFL Draft General Discussion

[Ura]

Yep good summary. They are big on Bo Allan too. Langford at 5 and Allan at 9 would not surprise in the slightest.

Fair point. Allan really interesting prospect to watch coming through. If they got both would be a very big midfield.

 

[eaglevision]

Fair point. Allan really interesting prospect to watch coming through. If they got both would be a very big midfield.

They’ve built their game plan on winning the ruck contest and getting first hands to the ball. They believe they are still in the window and both Langford and Allan are physically developed enough to make an impact before most in their cohort.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

We still have no idea where Pou's ceiling is. He was struggling big time this year before going back to the VFL to work on his game and then averaged 22.5 disposals, 6.5 tackles, 4.3 clearances and a goal a game over his last 4 matches. Looking forward to seeing what he can do with renewed confidence and another pre season.

 

[davesnothere]

I'd take Draper at 1 this year.

I'd probably take Pou at 1 this year as well?

Draper is class personified and I'm probably taking him over Pou but could be totally wrong. Always been a massive Pou fan.

 

[austyn08]

Its obviously a hard draft to predict. I think if you told me after champs that Lalor is favoured as #1 pick and Tauru is potential top 6 i would have fallen over.
The draft night is going to be a real fun watch and there will be surprises. We have gone from the number stage of the draft to the player stage. Richmond wont be weighing up pick 2 vs pick 6 and something. They will be thinking are we happpier with FOS or the posability Armstrong and Hannaford or something equivelent.
Interesting thoughtn for Richmond they are well poised to take the biggest risks with their later picks 18, 20, 22 and 23. They are likely to have the safer picks earlier and take punts later. Good example of it is Hotton and his injury. Could spill over to taking a Dodson early.

Just because of the number of picks does not suggest we can afford to take a risk.
We still have a few kids that are 50/50 in making it and 5 recoving acl’s on our list.

 

[hawkinoz]

I think you will be surprised. We traded a future 1st for 20 (risky) for Holmes in a covid draft and lots of teams have done that. In a better draft like this if a player that the clubs want is either on the board at 15-20 or at the first pick of round 2 (after night 1) clubs will trade an fr1. Obviously might be pick swaps both ways and you would have to be a team that thinks you will finish top 6 to do such a trade.

I reckon the Tigers use 1 6 10 and 11 but then the 18 20 23 and 24 would be up for grabs for the right offers.

Did you get anything back for that Holmes trade, I can see clubs doing it for picks under 20 with picks coming back.

But above 20, pure F1's trades are going to be hard. Only happens if a real talent slides but we are told this is a even draft, so unlikely that happens.

Josh Weddle was traded in for live pick 27+F2+F3 for live pick 18. Was very unpopular trade when it was made and seen as overs( Syd delisted the Hawks NGA Cooper Vickery they picked at 27 this yr)

Tigers pick 18 will be pick 22 after FS/Academy bid matches. I bet they are dreaming of getting a F1 for it but offers will be from teams who hold later picks 30-40 with F2 added in.

Same offers for next set of 5 picks.

F1 deals will be for 2 picks ( 18+23 or 19+22) or for F1+ later pick for single pick 18-23

 

[ScrappyDo]

Such different players it's hard to compare. Pou has more potential match winner about him and Draper is closer to the finished product.
As it stands l would not swap Pou for Draper right now so that answers that, but I'd love to get him in this year.

 

[tigs2010]

Did you get anything back for that Holmes trade, I can see clubs doing it for picks under 20 with picks coming back.

But above 20, pure F1's trades are going to be hard. Only happens if a real talent slides but we are told this is a even draft, so unlikely that happens.

Josh Weddle was traded in for live pick 27+F2+F3 for live pick 18. Was very unpopular trade when it was made and seen as overs( Syd delisted the Hawks NGA Cooper Vickery they picked at 27 this yr)

Tigers pick 18 will be pick 22 after FS/Academy bid matches. I bet they are dreaming of getting a F1 for it but offers will be from teams who hold later picks 30-40 with F2 added in.

Same offers for next set of 5 picks.

F1 deals will be for 2 picks ( 18+23 or 19+22) or for F1+ later pick for single pick 18-23

Those F1s will likely be in the 20s in a weaker draft. We won't straight swap them unless it's an obviously poor team, let alone give 2 of them up.

I think everyone is assuming we can't draft 8 players. We have 10 list spots currently with a few in limbo.

 

[blaisee]

Did you get anything back for that Holmes trade, I can see clubs doing it for picks under 20 with picks coming back.

But above 20, pure F1's trades are going to be hard. Only happens if a real talent slides but we are told this is a even draft, so unlikely that happens.

Josh Weddle was traded in for live pick 27+F2+F3 for live pick 18. Was very unpopular trade when it was made and seen as overs( Syd delisted the Hawks NGA Cooper Vickery they picked at 27 this yr)

Tigers pick 18 will be pick 22 after FS/Academy bid matches. I bet they are dreaming of getting a F1 for it but offers will be from teams who hold later picks 30-40 with F2 added in.

Same offers for next set of 5 picks.

F1 deals will be for 2 picks ( 18+23 or 19+22) or for F1+ later pick for single pick 18-23

If you think that 18+ 23 in this draft will be required to get an f1 in 2025 you are in for a big surprise on draft night .

18 will get f1 with Bells on, and even then unless it’s nth I doubt Richmond bothers

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Why would Richmond trade out of this draft to pick up Brandon Parfitt as a DFA? Like I dont get why they would ever want to trade out. A downgrade might make sense but i cant see anyone with the ability to do a downgrade outside of Essendon myself

 

[danster168]

Petty re-signed didnt he? Hes a spud and i wouldnt have signed him but they did. I would have thought they would go a midfielder preparing for the fact that in 2026 one of Oliver or petracca might be gone. But 2 picks gives them flexibility.

That's a bad take considering Petty tore you guys to shreds this year, clunking 4 or 5 contested marks, and getting 3 Brownlow votes. Petty had a poor year forward after a limited pre-season but he's already been an elite player in the past which is why the crows offered him a long contract on big coin. He's only 24. Every club would have Petty on their list and would be a key cog to their future. Just in defence, that's all. If anyone doesn't rate him, it's simply one of those cases where they didn't watch him in 2021-22.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

That's a bad take considering Petty tore you guys to shreds this year, clunking 4 or 5 contested marks, and getting 3 Brownlow votes. Petty had a poor year forward after a limited pre-season but he's already been an elite player in the past which is why the crows offered him a long contract on big coin. He's only 24. Every club would have Petty on their list and would be a key cog to their future. Just in defence, that's all. If anyone doesn't rate him, it's simply one of those cases where they didn't watch him in 2021-22.

Dude he is absolutely shithouse as a forward. Even Harrison Petty would admit that

Pick 9 is because you want Armstrong. Only move more obvious is Bo Allan to Eagles

 

[blaisee]

Why would Richmond trade out of this draft to pick up Brandon Parfitt as a DFA? Like I dont get why they would ever want to trade out. A downgrade might make sense but i cant see anyone with the ability to do a downgrade outside of Essendon myself

Exactly

Odds on Richmond keep their draft hand as is unless someone does something crazy

 

[botts]

It looks like he didn't even get invited to play NAB League this year and instead played for the Balwyn ressies in the EFL as well as the Carey Old Boys in the VAFA. In the end, Boston probably should've stayed in Queensland as a full time member of the Suns academy given he definitely would have been selected to play in their Coates Talent League games over the last two years instead of lining up for clubs like Balwyn and Park Orchids.

I think he made the right call. Obviously didn’t have what it takes to make it as a footballer but apparently did really well at schools. Good luck to the young fella

 

[blaisee]

Dude he is absolutely shithouse as a forward. Even Harrison Petty would admit that

Pick 9 is because you want Armstrong. Only move more obvious is Bo Allan to Eagles

Or tauru if he still there

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Exactly

Odds on Richmond keep their draft hand as is unless someone does something crazy

Anything crazy though is still a downgrade to me. It would be Essendon F1st + 46 for Pick 18 type deal

 

[dazzledavey36]

Dude he is absolutely shithouse as a forward. Even Harrison Petty would admit that

Pick 9 is because you want Armstrong. Only move more obvious is Bo Allan to Eagles

Factually incorrect..

 

[blaisee]

Anything crazy though is still a downgrade to me. It would be Essendon F1st + 46 for Pick 18 type deal

Yea that will not do it for sure

 

[1990crow]

Hopefully Crows have both shortly

 

[marcus1232]

Pou is such a unique talent has only scratched the surface of what he could become his upside is ludicrous.

That's what is so scary and exciting about him.

I'm sure Draper will be a stud. But as much as I hate it if Port and Adelaide are not already in Pou's managements ear already they have rocks in there heads

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Factually incorrect..

You are batshit insane if that isnt the plan.

 

[dazzledavey36]

You are batshit insane if that isnt the plan.

Bizarre comment but okay. Armstrong is one of the more overrated players in the draft.

He's basically another Matthew Jefferson that's slightly bigger.

If we want to target a key forward in the draft with pick 9 it'll be the more aggressive and complete key forward in Jobe Shanahan.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Bizarre comment but okay. Armstrong is one of the more overrated players in the draft.

He's basically another Matthew Jefferson that's slightly bigger.

If we want to target a key forward in the draft with pick 9 it'll be the more aggressive and complete key forward in Jobe Shanahan.

Ah I get you. I thought you meant you wouldnt take a KPP forward. Shannahan is a possiblity too but feel certain its Armstrong

 

[Trav 20]

Dude he is absolutely shithouse as a forward. Even Harrison Petty would admit that

Pick 9 is because you want Armstrong. Only move more obvious is Bo Allan to Eagles

Petty is a terrific defender and yes, a poor forward.

I hope like hell we're not interested in Armstrong. He looks poor in the contest. After the Jefferson fiasco I'll be shocked if we take Armstrong.

There are better players than Bo Allan who'll be available at 9-11.

I'm not averse to taking Tauru at 5 and the best mid left at 9. Perhaps Lindsay or forward Berry.

But equally happy taking the best mid at 5, perhaps Langford or a fallen Smith.

 

[danster168]

Dude he is absolutely shithouse as a forward. Even Harrison Petty would admit that

Pick 9 is because you want Armstrong. Only move more obvious is Bo Allan to Eagles

read the post properly before replying.