No Oppo Supporters 2024 AFL General Discussion

[GoTheSwannies]

Not making light of the victim? So why bring a sex doll and re-enact it? Surely you'd just turn up as Hayne in handcuffs or in a box behind bars.

I gather that the skits were part of a competition. So it was more than just the outfit, appears there was a performance element to it. Which is where it went terribly wrong.

 

[Olian]

Just out of curiosity, for the folks who think they were just bad jokes and the punishment doesn't fit the crime... do you want to end the violence against women crisis in our country or not?

Kinda getting the vibe that people are more interested in protecting the right to shit comedy than the lives and safety of women.

One of the key areas that is linked to crimes against women is the use of illicit drugs. Yet the AFL’s policy on illicit drugs is soft.

However, jokes in poor taste in a private function are subject to immediate fines and suspension.

Problem with the AFL wading in and being the moral authority.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

rustycrate im terribly sorry to hear you had to go through such a horrible experience with a loved one.

 

[Bloods86]

Because AFL players are dumb?

Oh ok, yeah it's all good then. They just weren't thinking. And the next time someone does this they can use the same flimsy excuse.

 

[Bloods86]

One of the key areas that is linked to crimes against women is the use of illicit drugs. Yet the AFL’s policy on illicit drugs is soft.

However, jokes in poor taste in a private function are subject to immediate fines and suspension.

Problem with the AFL wading in and being the moral authority.

We can all agree the AFL has some hypocrisy and problematic aspects that get largely ignored.

But that doesn't have any bearing on the behaviour of these players, and whether it deserves some consequences.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Oh ok, yeah it's all good then. They just weren't thinking. And the next time someone does this they can use the same flimsy excuse.

So those GWS players in your mind deliberately had the intent in their mind to make light hearted fun of the victims.

Is that what your saying?

 

[Bloods86]

So those GWS players in your mind deliberately had the intent in their mind to make light hearted fun of the victims.

Is that what your saying?

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they knew but just didn't care.

Intent does not equate to outcome though.

And just because they are AFL players doesn't mean they are immune or should be excused from having some very basic common sense and empathy.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Mate you cant be serious no human being is going to have that thinking of making fun of a rape victim.

If so they got off lightly

 

[Kbroome]

With all due respect, have you done any research on the subject of domestic violence/violence against women? Because if you have, surely one of the most basic concepts you would've learned is that actions like that seen on Wednesday is very prototypical of precursors to actual violence occurring. In many cases it starts as a casual, comedic attitude towards violence and women, and when enabled, becomes something worse.

That is why there has to be punishment here. These young men need to be disciplined and educated now, while it can still make a difference. Kill it at the first chance.

Surely understanding and supporting this is more important than a bunch of AFL players getting to play a few games next year?

100% i hate to reference this but just look at the events of what happened with yung philly the UK Youtuber. He did funny interview with girls at festivals that were laughed off as a little weird but no he has alleged charges against him for actions whilst on tour in Western Australia.

The progression of this stuff is pretty obvious it might not happen every time but it happens enough that it needs to be punished because it is an unacceptable progression or imitation. Its our responsibility and men and women to call it out when this stuff happens

 

[Bloods86]

Mate you cant be serious no human being is going to have that thinking of making fun of a rape victim.

If so they got off lightly

He brought a sex doll to replicate the victim and then simulated a sexual assault in the name of entertainment. He even had another player as the taxi driver, who had waited for Hayne while he performed the assault.

The theme was controversial couples wasn't it, makes it even more bizarre and distasteful.

I'm not sure how he could have done it more clearly. It's really odd that people are keen to defend this.

 

[ShireSwan]

I must be the only person who thinks the whole mad monday dress-up thing is just lame and not even that funny to begin with.

It will be now with the Fun PC Police dictating what a bunch of young guys on a well earned bender can say or do.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

It will be now with the Fun PC Police dictating what a bunch of young guys on a well earned bender can say or do.

And pubs/bars lose out on $$

Players will just hire a venue elsewhere

 

[.Shotties.]

Let me get this right -

Connor Idun gets sanctioned for dressing up as a black guy from a movie.

A bunch of players get sanctioned for doing nothing.

I don't know if I'd call the mocking of someone who suffered a violent rape "nothing." Is there a reason you keep avoiding mentioning that one explicitly?