Most who support Carlton celebrate the champ, most who don't, say what a s... award it is. That's it in a nutshell.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
LIVE: Sydney v Brisbane Lions - 2:30PM AEST Sat
Squiggle tips Lions at 61% chance -- What's your tip? -- Ticketing Buy, Sell -- Teams on Thurs »
Weekly Prize - Join Any Time - Tip Grand Final
The Golden Ticket - MCG and Marvel Medallion Club tickets and Corporate Box tickets at the Gabba, MCG and Marvel.
AFLW 2024 - Round 4 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Except your team has 2 Coleman medallists and about 7 x AA’s in it.
If Cripps was as dominant a player as 45 votes suggests, Carlton don’t finish 8th and get flogged in an EF.
He was a worthy winner, but 45 votes is a joke… everyone knows that.
Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com
The first Brownlow medal had 16 games, now we have 23 games a season, and they're talking about increasing it. Not too mention, the Brownlow medal doesn't take into account THE MOST IMPORTANT GAMES OF THE SEASON.
But if it was Dusty polling 45 votes, you'd have a tent pole in your jodphurs huh?Except your team has 2 Coleman medallists and about 7 x AA’s in it.
If Cripps was as dominant a player as 45 votes suggests, Carlton don’t finish 8th and get flogged in an EF.
He was a worthy winner, but 45 votes is a joke… everyone knows that.
Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com
Not the vibe I'm gettingMost who support Carlton celebrate the champ, most who don't, say what a s... award it is. That's it in a nutshell.
What a stupid comment to make just because it’s your opinion only - I had Patrick winning and let’s face it Daicos wasnt too far behind!We hate Patrick because we don't share the he opinion he was the best player this year, let alone the greatest player ever?
How is this possible?
Karl sounds nothing like Jarman
Amon sounds nothing like Impey
One wears #10, one wears #4
Do they just look at a bloke and think "yeah I'm pretty sure I've seen him running around in a Port jumper, it must be player X"?
The best way to ensure players get close to the votes they deserve is have a panel appointed that gives every player a rating out of 10 for every game they played. One of the issues is that by rewarding so few each game it exaggerates the impact of star players that don't have other star midfielder's taking votes off them. Dusty in 2017 for me was the standout as he was able to do it in a dominant team with multiple other players playing well that had Dusty not been there would have been up there or deserved winners.Ben Cousins 20 votes won it. I remember being in awe when Judd got 30.
Cripps had a ripper season & is a deserved Brownlow winner - however not a chance he deserved 40 ****ing 5 votes. Him getting 45 has not inspired the same awe in me as Judd getting 30.
Dusty 36 in 2017 was the GOAT season and Cripps would be the first to admit he was not 9 votes better
What's objectively stupid about an opinion that Cripps wasn't the best player this year?What a stupid comment to make just because it’s your opinion only - I had Patrick winning and let’s face it Daicos wasnt too far behind!
I would have no problem with the Coaches Votes being the new Brownlow.
Where they don't become public throughout the year & it's read out on Brownlow night the same style.
I think the coaches hold a lot more credibility than the umpires. that's just my thoughts on a new system.
It probably won't change anyway but it wasn't always 1,2-3 system with the umps. I feel like it's outdated now.
I don’t think Cripps winning is seen as wrong, just the crazy 45 votes and general midfield centric voting which has reached new levels across the board.
The coaches might know more than the public but even so, the coaches votes seem a lot more accurate to when looking at a game than looking at their votes of players.Coaches are incredibly compromised towards the end of each season when it is basically public knowledge which handful of players are battling it out for the votes.
Even if it was kept confidential through the year, each coach would know.
If you are looking for a cohort of AFL people to be most susceptible to promoting their own player and not worrying about the integrity of an award you would pick the coaches.
The coaches award is meaningless when there are two players close towards the end of the year and one coach is keen to get their player over the line and the other coach is more concerned with other things.
Your coach was arguably the best player in the league at his peak and he won the Brownlow with 21 votes.
45 votes would suggest Cripps is more than twice as good as peak Voss and just had comfortably the greatest season of all time. Come on.
So you have no probs with him getting 45 votes?Polling 45 votes doesnt mean he had the best ever season. It means he had an elite season, in a team that won a lot of games, and didnt have any other players taking votes off him.
It's the opposite at Sydney with Gulden, Heeney and Warner who shared 76 votes between them.
Our next best midfielder after Cripps is Walsh, and he had a quiet year and missed a few games (still polled 16 votes). Cerra was in and out with a Hammy, and Hewet was never gonna take any votes off Cripps.
After Cripps our best players were Weitering (and defenders never poll) McKay and Curnow (and forwards need to kick 10 to be in with a shot).
There was the one game he polled 2 votes in that he shouldnt have (19 disposals at 60 percent) but the rest of his votes were in games he was predicted to poll in.
He's a midfielder, he stands out on the ground, is a gun, and we won enough games (and he played really well in the games we lost, most of which were close losses barring Hawthorn and Sydney) for him to rack up a ton of votes.
This shit comes up every year. Same arguments every single time.
Crippa absolutely got 6 votes that he shouldn’t have.
Puts him on 39….oh guess what, he still wins!
EAD you Salty peeps.
So you have no probs with him getting 45 votes?
He should have got just under or just over 30 votes. Getting 15 more votes than expected was a bit of a joke that detracts from the award.Daicos got 2 votes for a game he got 15 touches and got subbed off.
His brother ran rampant with 34 touches so I think the umpires either got confused or rang it in on that one as well.
Cripps shouldnt have polled 2 votes in the game he got 19 at 60 percent, and the game where TDK was clearly the BOG was the other glaring error.
Petracca should have gotten the 3 votes for his 5 goals that nearly dragged the Dees over the line instead of Cripps (who should have gotten 2).
Even if I go back and deduct all those votes, Cripps still wins in a canter, so it's pretty moot.
The favorite won, and the second favorite came runner up. People are still gonna melt though.
He got 9 more votes than any other player in 100 years. You can't tell me that is right.Not really. It's the same thing every year. In order to get votes you need to be:
1. A midfielder
2. A gun
3. Stand out to the umpires
4. In a side that wins enough games.
5. In a side that has no-one else getting votes from you.
6. Be your sides best player in loses, particularly close games (to pick off the 1's and 2's).
Cripps had a consistent year, as a gun midfielder, in a team with no other gun midfielders (barring Walsh who had a down year), in a side that won a lot of games, and were he did everything he could in losses (most of which were close).
That's the way it works. No defender is ever going to win it, and for a forward to get close they'd have to kick 150 goals in a season (or have every midfielder in their team be shit, yet still win enough games to poll).