List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

What should we get with our first two picks as they stand

  • Best Available for both

    Votes: 23 28.8%
  • Small forward/Small Defender

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • KPD/Small Forward

    Votes: 9 11.3%
  • Mid/KPD

    Votes: 3 3.8%
  • KPD/Defender

    Votes: 17 21.3%
  • KPF/Small Forward

    Votes: 5 6.3%
  • KPF/Mid

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • KPF/Defender

    Votes: 23 28.8%

  • Total voters
    80

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True, and clubs have favourites and so on. Really unpredictable. Hard enough to work out what our own club might do!

Trust me I know decided between a good 8 players at our picks. Went the two types I was always going though
 

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Trust me I know decided between a good 8 players at our picks. Went the two types I was always going though
In my later working life I had a strong involvement with organisation-wide recruitment and succession planning for my function and we had a process that worked very well.
1) Identify current and future gaps.
2) Promote current employees into current gaps.
3) Identify current employees who could fill the future gaps and develop them.
4) Recruit where we had no-one (obviously this is where"best available" comes in).
For mine the footy club is exactly the same except the choice in recruitment is much more restricted.
It seems a pretty fair consensus that we need a KPF both as cover and hopefully future improvement, a forward as cover or improvement for Hayward and a mid for the pipeline (best available at that pick). Cochran as a tall defender is essentially a free hit.
For mine you take best available from this categories at our picks in priority order.
Rookie is interesting as I think our major needs should be covered off by the draft. Maybe Harrison from the Academy? Lloyd or McCartin? The youngest Warner? Urquhart?
Watch with interest.
 
I wonder whose everyone's pick to be the major slider in the draft. If my memory serves me right the big sliders from last year were Ollie Murphy, George Stevens and Arie Schoenmaker. My pick for biggest slider is Matt Whitlock (no real reason tbh)
 
In my later working life I had a strong involvement with organisation-wide recruitment and succession planning for my function and we had a process that worked very well.
1) Identify current and future gaps.
2) Promote current employees into current gaps.
3) Identify current employees who could fill the future gaps and develop them.
4) Recruit where we had no-one (obviously this is where"best available" comes in).
For mine the footy club is exactly the same except the choice in recruitment is much more restricted.
It seems a pretty fair consensus that we need a KPF both as cover and hopefully future improvement, a forward as cover or improvement for Hayward and a mid for the pipeline (best available at that pick). Cochran as a tall defender is essentially a free hit.
For mine you take best available from this categories at our picks in priority order.
Rookie is interesting as I think our major needs should be covered off by the draft. Maybe Harrison from the Academy? Lloyd or McCartin? The youngest Warner? Urquhart?
Watch with interest.

For me and whilst I considered a medium tall forward I’m okay filling that in the rookie draft. Feel we need a small forward badly it was a huge weakness and it’s worse when Paps is out.

KPF was always taking one Whitlock was the best available for us.

Player I hated overlooking was Hotton but I had to take a step back and if I went him I’d have to fill a small forward later it’s possible but the risk is the small forwards are all off the board
 
For me and whilst I considered a medium tall forward I’m okay filling that in the rookie draft. Feel we need a small forward badly it was a huge weakness and it’s worse when Paps is out.

KPF was always taking one Whitlock was the best available for us.

Player I hated overlooking was Hotton but I had to take a step back and if I went him I’d have to fill a small forward later it’s possible but the risk is the small forwards are all off the board
I suspect that to get the quality we want we will need to make a choice between a small or a medium forward with our second pick rather than wait until the third. I agree about Hotton. We are fortunate that we could wait for him to fully recover but I suspect he'll go earlier. Davis might be there, Dattoli would be good. None of them would still be there for our third.
 
Rob Harding coach of Dragons and Vic Metro was a good listen on SEN just after 1pm if someone can get it . My boy Kennedy is the last one mentioned , Rob said if it was 2023 he would be starting in midfield for Vic Metro and expects him to go from 40 up

Our 3rd pick seems a good landing spot (this comes in 3-4 spots on draft night).
 
I suspect that to get the quality we want we will need to make a choice between a small or a medium forward with our second pick rather than wait until the third. I agree about Hotton. We are fortunate that we could wait for him to fully recover but I suspect he'll go earlier. Davis might be there, Dattoli would be good. None of them would still be there for our third.

Yep I mean I wouldn’t completely discount trading the second first down getting two seconds taking a tall and the other one, list spots are the query but it’s possible

I’d love Davis think he goes earlier annoyingly Freo have a pick just before.

Hotton I have the higher talent than the small I took but it’s not by a lot. If we didn’t ultra need a small I’d be taking Hotton if we only had one first I’d be taking him but I basically had KPF and one of a medium fwd/small forward and there’s a heap of medium forwards could easily get one with our third, could trade our future to maybe get one of those late Tigers picks too.
 
For me and whilst I considered a medium tall forward I’m okay filling that in the rookie draft. Feel we need a small forward badly it was a huge weakness and it’s worse when Paps is out.

KPF was always taking one Whitlock was the best available for us.

Player I hated overlooking was Hotton but I had to take a step back and if I went him I’d have to fill a small forward later it’s possible but the risk is the small forwards are all off the board
Agree with SF.
He could play next year when we need a class SF.
 
Agree with SF.
He could play next year when we need a class SF.

Yep and allows us to play two genuine small forwards, we can play Cleary as a pseudo medium anyway
 

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For me and whilst I considered a medium tall forward I’m okay filling that in the rookie draft. Feel we need a small forward badly it was a huge weakness and it’s worse when Paps is out.

KPF was always taking one Whitlock was the best available for us.

Player I hated overlooking was Hotton but I had to take a step back and if I went him I’d have to fill a small forward later it’s possible but the risk is the small forwards are all off the board
Yep starting to lean towards that way that if someone like a Day-wicks was there or a 185-190cm medium at our 3rd or rookie selection that it might be the selection.

Think my feeling is that we need to select: KPF, Medium sized forward, Tough inside mid, slider + Cochran with all our selections just not sure which order anymore as we are outside the top 15 bracket that are like a tier above the 16-35 bracket imo
 
Yep starting to lean towards that way that if someone like a Day-wicks was there or a 185-190cm medium at our 3rd or rookie selection that it might be the selection.

Think my feeling is that we need to select: KPF, Medium sized forward, Tough inside mid, slider + Cochran with all our selections just not sure which order anymore as we are outside the top 15 bracket that are like a tier above the 16-35 bracket imo

There’s a lot of mediums from the 3rd onwards there isn’t a lot of top line small forwards after the top 30. Posted my phantom a few pages back you are welcome to check it out went a KPF and a SF
 
There’s a lot of mediums from the 3rd onwards there isn’t a lot of top line small forwards after the top 30. Posted my phantom a few pages back you are welcome to check it out went a KPF and a SF
I did check it out looks pretty good personally have some slight differences but it wouldn't surprise me if thats how it plays out
 
I did check it out looks pretty good personally have some slight differences but it wouldn't surprise me if thats how it plays out

Fully expected many to hate me taking a small forward first up lol
 
Nah. Plenty see that as a priority. Second if not first.

Yep I mean we have to take one, yes I have heard this player can play small forward but when I hear Sam Wicks being our second best small forward on our list…we need one. Sure Hanily can play there, Campbell might but really there’s a lack of depth there
 
This is such a ho-hum draft. I would expect Richmond will trade 2 or 3 picks in to the future but which ones and who to, I have no idea. How do you role play that? We have 2 good picks but they feel like they're out of the hitting zone too... conversely the depth is also very good, I'd have as much faith in a 30's/40's pick as I would ours, so where is the value?

We need depth everywhere, best available makes most sense.

but...

For me, it's medium or small defender, ie. under 190cms. By that, I mean defender first - not hybrid, not interceptor, not rebounder, not resting midfielder, no. I want a player who's strength is locking down above any other attributes

Next for me is a medium forward, the exact type that makes life hell for the person above. Leads for the ball, tackles hard and doesn't wait for the game to come to him. A chirpy nature is fine with me.

Lastly, I'd go best available KPP, defensive leaning preferably, but dare I say it, Swingman is probably what I'm looking for. If we drop a tall forward, keep faith in Buller, Snell and Edwards we just need depth cover at this point and time to see who owns the positions going forward.

The order above is interchangeable, based on availability and value at our pick. If at any time a disciplined, team orientated midfielder with potential leadership presents better value at our picks then I'd jump on that. I don't necessarily see it as a strong need, but I'd like one refining those skills in our VFL team and putting pressure on our starters
 
I’ll take it lol happy with the effort takes a bit to get these together it was him or Hotton first up
Absolutely a good effort, we just see different priorities.

Out of Berry and Hotton, I'd have gone Jack Whitlock in your phantom draft first.

Then locked in an inside mid at the next with Jack Ough, Luke Kennedy, Cody Anderson or Phoenix Hargrave. Ough might be my preferred option, but only if we see him with a future predominantly on the inside and maybe resting forward. But sounds like we're keen on Kennedy. The others are both solid units for their age so might be ready early.

Then since the set of medium forward options after Hynes/Davis are likely to be a bit after some of these mids, one of Nathaniel Sulzberger, Archer Day-Wicks or Ned Bowman at our 3rd pick.

Maybe a slight downgrade with the 2nd pick to get a future 3rd or something for academy bids, if we think our preferred mid will still be there in the 30s and someone else wants to move up.
 
Absolutely a good effort, we just see different priorities.

Out of Berry and Hotton, I'd have gone Jack Whitlock in your phantom draft first.

Then locked in an inside mid at the next with Jack Ough, Luke Kennedy, Cody Anderson or Phoenix Hargrave. Ough might be my preferred option, but only if we see him with a future predominantly on the inside and maybe resting forward. But sounds like we're keen on Kennedy. The others are both solid units for their age so might be ready early.

Then since the set of medium forward options after Hynes/Davis are likely to be a bit after some of these mids, one of Nathaniel Sulzberger, Archer Day-Wicks or Ned Bowman at our 3rd pick.

Maybe a slight downgrade with the 2nd pick to get a future 3rd or something for academy bids, if we think our preferred mid will still be there in the 30s and someone else wants to move up.

The Berry vs Hotton was very close mate that one and the couple of picks in the teens were ultra hard and it’s why took my time posting it. I had Hotton going earlier initially. I’m always going to take a small forward at one pick so Dattolli or Berry were the two. Did take Whitlock anyway he’d last till our second.

I’d consider the medium/inside at our third and rookie pick take one of each there.

The way I saw it there is so many mediums in my list from 35 plus on my board there isn’t many AFL ready small forwards therefore I’ll take the SF get the medium later. Don’t hate the idea of Kennedy with our 3rd
 

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