List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

 

[Bloods86]

Three talls in defence is fine. Edwards, Snell and Hamling with Cochran on the wing or HBF if needed. Francis and Buller forward would be fine (swap Francis/Hamling if preferred) with the newbie as third tall. Sounds OK to me. Francis or Ladhams will spend time as an emergency. Green/Ladhams ruck/spare forward.

Hamling is a better forward than Francis based on this year. Francis made VFL team of the year in defence and was better than Mitchell who won our VFL player of the year.

Only if we draft a KPF and we drop a KPF from seniors would we change anything imo.

We might find we don't rush one of Francis or Hamling back from being travelling emergency in some games, if we're well stocked for KPPs in the VFL.

 

[Superstar swan]

I suspect the hamling deal is a move to free up cash to add to Warner offer. 50% of his salary will be outside the cap now

 

[Shaq_01]

With the move of hamling and Francis to rookie

Does that mean all our rookie spots are covered and we not taking rookies

Does it mean that we are definitely taking 4 in the draft or could we take 5 ?

 

[SeanM]

With the move of hamling and Francis to rookie

Does that mean all our rookie spots are covered and we not taking rookies

Does it mean that we are definitely taking 4 in the draft or could we take 5 ?

I think someone earlier in the thread was saying between 4-6 in the main draft. And between 0-2 in the rookie draft (excluding Francis/ Hamling)

 

[anotherletdown]

I know we want to give chances to academy players, but if we were serious, we'd be turning over 75% of the rookie list each and every year. We need to use it as it was intended

 

[Bloods86]

With the move of hamling and Francis to rookie

Does that mean all our rookie spots are covered and we not taking rookies

Does it mean that we are definitely taking 4 in the draft or could we take 5 ?

Up to 5 in the national, only 1 in the rookie regardless of how many we take in the national.

 

[Cadsky]

I'm hoping the move is for a DFA. Either Brandan Parfitt

3

Brandan Parfitt

Age

26

Ht

180cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

8.4

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

2.1

2star

T

4.8

5star

CL

1.9

4star

D

15.3

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

7.8

5star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.6

3star

or Ash Johnson to give some more pressure in the forward line.

3 live picks
Cochran
Parfitt/Johnson

 

[BloodySwan]

I suspect the hamling deal is a move to free up cash to add to Warner offer. 50% of his salary will be outside the cap now

Is that a thing? Wouldn't you want your star players on Rookie spots if they were the case?

 

[Kbroome]

I'm hoping the move is for a DFA. Either Tyson Stengle or Ash Johnson to give some more pressure in the forward line.

3 live picks
Cochran
Stengle/Johnson

The Ash Johnson who averages 1.7 tackles a game and is 193cm i.e. a undersized tall forward?

Stengle isn't a DFA

Stengle signs mammoth extension to remain at Cats

Tyson Stengle has inked a monster contract extension to remain at the Cats until at least the end of 2029.His commitment to Kardinia Park reportedly entails knocking back a six-year deal with $50,000 ...

nit.com.au

 

[Bloods86]

I'm hoping the move is for a DFA. Either Tyson Stengle

18

Tyson Stengle

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

10.3

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

8.8

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.6

5star

or Ash Johnson to give some more pressure in the forward line.

3 live picks
Cochran
Stengle/Johnson

How do you propose getting Stengle when he's contracted until 2029?

 

[Cadsky]

How do you propose getting Stengle when he's contracted until 2029?

Sorry I got mixed up. I meant Parfitt

 

[LukeParkerno1]

We're not short on talls. We've got plenty of project talls

Take a swing at a need complete waste of time this mind you least we can delist next year

 

[Cadsky]

The Ash Johnson who averages 1.7 tackles a game and is 193cm i.e. a undersized tall forward?

Stengle isn't a DFA

Stengle signs mammoth extension to remain at Cats

Tyson Stengle has inked a monster contract extension to remain at the Cats until at least the end of 2029.His commitment to Kardinia Park reportedly entails knocking back a six-year deal with $50,000 ...

nit.com.au

We need another medium tall anyway. Hayward is the only one we've got.

 

[Kbroome]

Sorry I got mixed up. I meant Parfitt

You mean the guy that has the 12th worst disposal efficiency for non KP players? Adding to that he is the 5th worst ball user by foot for non KP players?

 

[Kiama Chris]

Not at all enthusiastic about DLFAs. They're delisted for a reason or reasons. Effectively they're a free trade and I've said forever that you trade to improve and draft for the future. Every now and again one works but most end up back on the trash heap. Nope, nope, nope.

 

[Kbroome]

We need another medium tall anyway. Hayward is the only one we've got.

Thank you for realising that we need a medium forward but Johnson is 27 can't mark to save him self and 193cm is not a medium. Might as well try Francis there as he is the same height and would probably do better than Johnson. Medium talls are 183-190cm.

Johnson was second worst for efficiency of ball use from Key Forwards in 2024. Can't mark and can't tackle and is a key forward as well

 

[Kbroome]

Not at all enthusiastic about DLFAs. They're delisted for a reason or reasons. Effectively they're a free trade and I've said forever that you trade to improve and draft for the future. Every now and again one works but most end up back on the trash heap. Nope, nope, nope.

Same don't think we are in a spot to take a chance with youngsters e.g. Oli Hotton and think that a lot of the experienced DFAs are horrific ball users and part of that old brand of footy especially the midfielders that has changed in the last decade

 

[LukeParkerno1]

We need another medium tall anyway. Hayward is the only one we've got.

Would cost nothing and one thing Ash does he kicks goals want to name our key forward that will do that?

 

[Kbroome]

Would cost nothing and one thing Ash does he kicks goals want to name our key forward that will do that?

Whats worse 3 KPFs + Parker or 4 KPFs?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Whats worse 3 KPFs + Parker or 4 KPFs?

He's not a key forward and we could replace MCLean as Ash can ruck a bit. We do need a medium or two it’s hardly the worst idea I’ve heard. In a window he will kick 30 in a year easily.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Sorry I got mixed up. I meant Parfitt

Jeez no! We need to give Sheldrick chances not make them less