List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

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[LukeParkerno1]

Names Joel Cochrane Swans Academy who doesn't even make it into the top 50 as per the post above

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Well he shouldn't be in the top 50, not in my top 50, we will take him but it sure better not be before 3 live selections

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Would be awfully disappointing if we went to only 36 on the main list given that the AFL gives us picks at the end of the draft due to open list spots. Effectively meaning we would rather have worse players on rookie A deals rather than senior list players

Financial reasons why we do it, a rookie pick costs a bucket less and also new rookie rules you can keep them there for longer.

 

[Bloods86]

Financial reasons why we do it, a rookie pick costs a bucket less and also new rookie rules you can keep them there for longer.

Yes, but if we're moving senior players onto the rookie list, why wouldn't we have the money to get in draftees via the ND instead of the rookie draft.

It's sacrificing quality for not much difference over the longer term, when we'd be better off financially in the short term anyway.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Personally, I can see them moving Sid back into defence over the offseason, going into 2025

Worked with Roberts, and they’ll try and replica it with Sid

Sid can do the spectacular but goes missing at times and can take some bad options. I don't think he has Blakey's talent but he reminds me of him so maybe a move behind the ball might help level out his output. Or try to turn him into a medium forward given he has a bit of height and can kick goals from long range.

 

[bedford]

Rare that i agree with Bedford. No point in getting a 27 year old 193cm player that does literally nothing well and has so many weakness.

That proves a point for me

 

[Tomorrow]

swans..?

 

[Swansujelly]

my uneducated, he looks like a goer, picks I would be chuffed with are Berry, Hynes, Mraz and the acadamey lad of course

 

[anotherletdown]

Our pick 44 from North probably becomes a pick in the late 30s due to other teams using multiple picks to match bids. So I think there will be some good players that slide to our 3rd pick.

Angus Clarke at 37 in the consensus rankings seems quite highly rated as a medium defender who can attack and defend.

Also with Gerreyn, Barrat, Mraz and Sims rated as in the mids 30s. There is probably still going to be some good talls available at that pick.

Ough, Alger, O'Farrell, Boxhall, there's some serious depth in the late 30's/40's

We definately want to take at least 4 players in this draft

 

[anotherletdown]

Well he shouldn't be in the top 50, not in my top 50, we will take him but it sure better not be before 3 live selections

Pass

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Pass

3 selections then Cochrane should be the go. Non fussed matching a bid after that

 

[LukeParkerno1]

swans..?

Rookie at best

 

[Bloods86]

3 selections then Cochrane should be the go. Non fussed matching a bid after that

We'll match him anywhere after our first 2 picks, guaranteed.

 

[anotherletdown]

3 selections then Cochrane should be the go. Non fussed matching a bid after that

Clubs are playing games if he goes before the 50's - he's 50/50 to make the ND in my book.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

We'll match him anywhere after our first 2 picks, guaranteed.

It should be 3 picks but you are right which is silly, maintain it match in the 45-55 range. Our third comes in anyway should be fine

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Clubs are playing games if he goes before the 50's - he's 50/50 to make the ND in my book.

100% agree actually think we may get lucky I just hope if we do take the 4th pick in the ND.

 

[anotherletdown]

We'll match him anywhere after our first 2 picks, guaranteed.

Wasted draft capital if so.

 

[Bloods86]

Wasted draft capital if so.

We'll get another pick. What we'd be saying is the positions lost between 40 and our next pick (likely to come in) and the difference in a player at about 40 and Cochran, significantly outweighs the message it would send to existing and future academy prospects.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Wasted draft capital if so.

100% agree 4th round sure or after our third no issues

 

[anotherletdown]

We'll get another pick. What we'd be saying is the positions lost between 40 and our next pick (likely to come in) and the difference in a player at about 40 and Cochran, significantly outweighs the message it would send to existing and future academy prospects.

That last bit is the crux of it, if we match that bid ahead of better ranked players, our academy/club doesn't really get a discount

Matching for optics is a slippery slope

 

[LeapingLeo21]

Wasted draft capital if so.

You don't know that until they've played.

 

[Bloods86]

That last bit is the crux of it, if we match that bid ahead of better ranked players, our academy/club doesn't really get a discount

Matching for optics is a slippery slope

It's not for optics.

If a kid is being courted by rugby league clubs etc or has other options even earlier, and he starts seeing us let academy kids go elsewhere without it being a big cost to us to match, you might take the option that keeps you on the eastern coast, likely close to home.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

You don't know that until they've played.

If someone is ranked 55 and you take them at 40 it’s silly, trade back and do it. Same with first rounds don’t reach trade back and bank picks either this year or next

 

[BloodySwan]

Wasted draft capital if so.

How? If we feel he is worth pick in the late 20s and we match him with our 2 late picks. What is the waste?

 

[Bloods86]

If someone is ranked 55 and you take them at 40 it’s silly, trade back and do it. Same with first rounds don’t reach trade back and bank picks either this year or next

How is this related to matching an earlier academy bid?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

It's not for optics.

If a kid is being courted by rugby league clubs etc or has other options even earlier, and he starts seeing us let academy kids go elsewhere without it being a big cost to us to match, you might take the option that keeps you on the eastern coast, likely close to home.

Good news for everyone new academy match rules come in soon