List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

What should we get with our first two picks as they stand

  • Best Available for both

    Votes: 25 29.1%
  • Small forward/Small Defender

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • KPD/Small Forward

    Votes: 9 10.5%
  • Mid/KPD

    Votes: 3 3.5%
  • KPD/Defender

    Votes: 19 22.1%
  • KPF/Small Forward

    Votes: 7 8.1%
  • KPF/Mid

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • KPF/Defender

    Votes: 23 26.7%

  • Total voters
    86

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I tgink our management of our key defensive positions have been mismanaged. We have battled on with Rampe, Melican and the McCartins with a litany of failed picks, trades and arrested development.

Maibaum, Brand, Pink, Gould and Arnold all did not make it. Francis and Hamling clearly not up to the standard beyond depth. Edwards is now coming up to his 3rd year on the list - is he any closer to being good enough for a game? Snell promising but didn't exactly tear up a game in the VFL last year. The fact we re-signed Francis shows the club is not exactly confident Edwards or Snell are good enough for 2025. I also don't think Cochran is suited to play key defence (certainly at this stage) with him more likely playing as a medium rebound / intercept defender or even wing.

On top of the above, there are question marks on Rampe (age), Melican (injury) and McCartin (concussion) moving forward.

So should we draft a key defender? On face value, I would say a definite yes. However, we have kinda snookered ourselves having agreed to keep on Hamling and Francis. If we take a key defender, he will have to share VFL time with up to 4 other key position players. Horse has also shown in the event of injury in firsts, he prefers to make Blakey, Fox and even Logan play as a tall defender.
 

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I have been exploring videos of players at the lower end of the draft and found this gem of a screamer by Ned Bowman. Its up there with Heeney's mark in the finals. May not be a bad pick up at the lower end.

Enjoy.



Is he a lightly built outside mid with a below average contested possession %?

If so, we’ll probably use our first selection on him
 
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Jonty Faull and Jesse Dattoli have been consistently linked to the Swans

Swans are fans of Dandenong Stingrays duo Noah Mraz and Cooper Hynes

Swans have also shown interest in speedy goalsneak Ollie Hannaford and midfielder Tom Gross

Sydney have also done their homework on NGA key defenders Adrian Cole – tied to St Kilda – and Riak Andrew (Melbourne), who is the brother of Gold Coast’s Mac

Small defender Blake Leidler, who finished second in the state combine 20m sprint, will be in consideration later on or as a rookie

Draft handbook: The players, pick swaps linked to your club
 
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Jonty Faull and Jesse Dattoli have been consistently linked to the Swans

Swans are fans of Dandenong Stingrays duo Noah Mraz and Cooper Hynes

Swans have also shown interest in speedy goalsneak Ollie Hannaford and midfielder Tom Gross

Sydney have also done their homework on NGA key defenders Adrian Cole – tied to St Kilda – and Riak Andrew (Melbourne), who is the brother of Gold Coast’s Mac

Small defender Blake Leidler, who finished second in the state combine 20m sprint, will be in consideration later on or as a rookie

Draft handbook: The players, pick swaps linked to your club
So, to summarize, Swans have shown interest in everybody?
 
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Jonty Faull and Jesse Dattoli have been consistently linked to the Swans

Swans are fans of Dandenong Stingrays duo Noah Mraz and Cooper Hynes

Swans have also shown interest in speedy goalsneak Ollie Hannaford and midfielder Tom Gross

Sydney have also done their homework on NGA key defenders Adrian Cole – tied to St Kilda – and Riak Andrew (Melbourne), who is the brother of Gold Coast’s Mac

Small defender Blake Leidler, who finished second in the state combine 20m sprint, will be in consideration later on or as a rookie

Draft handbook: The players, pick swaps linked to your club

They missed a few players.

If there are are any small skinny half back flank/wing types that have never had much impact at junior level but are great athletes and are ready to do a solid couple of years averaging 12 disposals in the reserves ... we are interested in all of them.
 
We have way, way more than 2 needs - Small defender, KPD, small forward, medium forward and a ticker....

Don’t need KPD and we have one coming in. We don’t need 2 KPD in one draft. Key forward is our need then SF, maybe a medium. Would also consider a genuine wingman.
 

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Jonty Faull and Jesse Dattoli have been consistently linked to the Swans

Swans are fans of Dandenong Stingrays duo Noah Mraz and Cooper Hynes

Swans have also shown interest in speedy goalsneak Ollie Hannaford and midfielder Tom Gross

Sydney have also done their homework on NGA key defenders Adrian Cole – tied to St Kilda – and Riak Andrew (Melbourne), who is the brother of Gold Coast’s Mac

Small defender Blake Leidler, who finished second in the state combine 20m sprint, will be in consideration later on or as a rookie

Draft handbook: The players, pick swaps linked to your club
Outside Dattoli, happy with the types mentioned here. Leidler if he's potentially an actual defender.

KPD maybe later in draft though. Hannaford and Gross help in mids, but probably need another, especially if we go Hannaford.
 
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Jonty Faull and Jesse Dattoli have been consistently linked to the Swans

Swans are fans of Dandenong Stingrays duo Noah Mraz and Cooper Hynes

Swans have also shown interest in speedy goalsneak Ollie Hannaford and midfielder Tom Gross

Sydney have also done their homework on NGA key defenders Adrian Cole – tied to St Kilda – and Riak Andrew (Melbourne), who is the brother of Gold Coast’s Mac

Small defender Blake Leidler, who finished second in the state combine 20m sprint, will be in consideration later on or as a rookie

Draft handbook: The players, pick swaps linked to your club

Like most of them aside from you know who. Love the interest in Hannaford it's him or Dattoli at one of those picks.

Now watch us take two smalls just to trigger everyone here lol
 
Apparently Johnty Faull has done a Victorian thing and said no to going out of Victoria so strike him off the list

Nothing between the key forwards anyway just take one. Shanahan could be there
 
Being fairly pessimistic with who is available at our picks...and if Faull is a no go...

Consensus (needs) #1:

  • Hannaford (small fwd/def)
  • Sims (contested KPF)
  • Josh Murphy/Bailey McKenzie (med fwd),
  • Clancy Dennis/Tom.Bell (KPD)
  • Cochran
  • mature mid (Murphy, Sam.Frost, Kobe Ryan)

Consensus (needs) #2:

  • Hannaford (small fwd/def)
  • Hamish Davis (med fwd)
  • O'Farrell/Mraz/Dennis (KPD)
  • Charlie West/Tallan Rosenzweig (KPF)
  • Cochran
  • mature mid (Murphy, Sam.Frost, Kobe Ryan)

I'm not convinced by Sims as a KPF, hence why I favour the 2nd option. Though he looks like being the best contested option available in the mid/late 20s, and then there's a gap with uncontested types like Nicholls, Stumpf in between.

Like Phoenix Hargrave, Luke Urquhart (inside mids) at Pick 40, but if we're taking a KPD they'd be who miss out. Otherwise pick one of them and look at a mature age + draftee KPD next year.
 

The Age's phantom draft has all of Armstrong, Shanahan, and both Whitlocks gone before we pick and so we take Faull (and then Hannaford). Conversely Fox Footy have both Whitlocks available to us. I don't know how happy to be about selecting Faull but I like the idea of a good KPP and then a good small. If the choice is between Faull and Matt Whitlock I don't know which I'd favour but good KPF seems like the harder to get option. I'm very wary of Trainor but I guess I'd have to rely on what the medical people say. I'm only slightly less wary of Mraz and his injury.

Both Fox and The Age have Reid sliding to the Bulldogs - he's not a need for us but his talent would be too good for me to resist. Both Fox and The Age have Saints bidding on Lombard, which is interesting. We're often listed as bidding on Marshall which sits comfortably with me.

I personally hope North don't take Tauru at 2. Seems too much of a reach and then Richmond profit too much.

Overall I'm more excited about trading back with our second pick than forward using both our first rounders.
 
No idea whether we want Faull or if he’s available at our selection, but if we don’t select him for that reason we are a piss weak football club

Back your culture and select the player you want/need
 

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