List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Would rather not trade Chad out or be pigeon holes if they improve

King in particular if he stays fit can rocket up the draft board.

I think it's more likely we package our two picks and move up tonight, particularly if it gives a shot at Armstrong.

There is a lot of IF's work out next year then. We are in a window NOW, Horse better win next year or he can go elsewhere. Get him the things we lack now, if that means trading a f1 or a f2. We could get a top 35 pick for our f2 (maybe with the Lions).

Every year we hear that this academy kid is awesome, and every year they fall down the boards. Lets be real these are no Callum Mills/Issac Heeney's.

I'd rather not trade Chad either but we also have to be half realistic too, for the record confident he signs for 2 years anyway.

We can flip 2027 and 2026 into next years easily

 

[LukeParkerno1]

After all the tooing and froing I would like us to use our F1 and whatever else to buy one of Richmond's 20's picks as late as possible to take:
1) Best available KPF (could be Matt Whitlock)
2) Dattoli
3) Hannaford
4) Cochran
We have 4 senior spots and two rookie spots. Those two are committed to Francis and Hamling.

BINGO exactly what I've been saying for 3 weeks, I'd go Faull over Whitlock though which is weird as I doidn't have him in my phantom first round (I would have had the bloke in the first few in r2 anyway)

 

[Nuggetz]

Are we going to do something boring like picking a fringe player with a hyphenated name or doing something wild like selecting the obvious well known player?

 

[Bonz]

There is a lot of IF's work out next year then. We are in a window NOW, Horse better win next year or he can go elsewhere. Get him the things we lack now, if that means trading a f1 or a f2. We could get a top 35 pick for our f2 (maybe with the Lions).

Every year we hear that this academy kid is awesome, and every year they fall down the boards. Lets be real these are no Callum Mills/Issac Heeney's.

I'd rather not trade Chad either but we also have to be half realistic too, for the record confident he signs for 2 years anyway.

We can flip 2027 and 2026 into next years easily

It's unlikely any draftee in the 20's/ 30's is going to make a dramatic difference to our flag chances next year (in fact it's far more unlikely than one of our kids moving up the leaderboard).

Our issues are between the head of our players and somewhat tactically, not something that is usually fixed on draft night.

Also mentioned it before, 27 will be hard to flip due to being the first of the Tasmania drafts.

I wouldn't be opposed to flipping next year's first if it lands an Armstrong or Shanahan, but I just don't see it happening with next year draft point index changes.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

It's unlikely any draftee in the 20's/ 30's is going to make a dramatic difference to our flag chances next year (in fact it's far more unlikely than one of our kids moving up the leaderboard).

Our issues are between the head of our players and somewhat tactically, not something that is usually fixed on draft night.

Also mentioned it before, 27 will be hard to flip due to being the first of the Tasmania drafts.

I wouldn't be opposed to flipping next year's first if it lands an Armstrong or Shanahan, but I just don't see it happening with next year draft point index changes.

It might if they are a need, Hayward goes down who is the medium? Can we get one in the 26-30 range that would help? This is a very deep draft, it's also why I'm hoping no one bids on Cochrane over the next two nights rookie draft please. Fix the KPF and SF tonight, then ideally take two more before a bid.

27 may have the Tassie ones, but a top 10 pick is still valuable

 

[Swansujelly]

If we take the second Whitlock we can hedge our bets. He's both a KPF and a KPD.

 

[Bloods86]

Depends on Trainor's head knocks and how they were acquired.

His top 5 talent, I can also see him slotting in when Rampe finishes up.

Rampe has mostly been a lockdown KPD.

This is what Trainor is specifically talked about as being deficient in.

He's talked about as if he's a slightly more defensive Blakey.

Not what we need at all, especially since we've got Melican, Snell, and incoming Cochran who could be the intercepting type (as well as Blakey doing it from HB).

Legit lockdown types we're short on, especially as they make up 2 of 3 KPDs in a lineup generally. We have Tmac, Edwards, maybe continue to use Melican.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Are we going to do something boring like picking a fringe player with a hyphenated name or doing something wild like selecting the obvious well known player?

I'd rather us take two boring picks taht are rated in the first round than take some Hail Mary from no where

 

[Bloods86]

Of course there are exceptions. For every one of the above there are 5-6 who fail.

If by exceptions you mean most of the best KPDs we've had recently, then yeah...

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Rampe has mostly been a lockdown KPD.

This is what Trainor is specifically talked about as being deficient in.

He's talked about as if he's a slightly more defensive Blakey.

Not what we need at all, especially since we've got Melican, Snell, and incoming Cochran who could be the intercepting type (as well as Blakey doing it from HB).

Legit lockdown types we're short on, especially as they make up 2 of 3 KPDs in a lineup generally. We have Tmac, Edwards, maybe continue to use Melican.

Yeah for me and I love Trainor but I'd be petrified having gone through the McCartin thing to take another with issues in a position we are hardly short in. Look would he cause me less migraines than Blakey probably but thats about it

 

[Bloods86]

Are we going to do something boring like picking a fringe player with a hyphenated name or doing something wild like selecting the obvious well known player?

Archer Day-Wicks (mid/fwd)
Mitch Kirkwood-Scott (HB/mid)
Justin Pulinya-Legg (utility)

 

[Bonz]

It might if they are a need, Hayward goes down who is the medium? Can we get one in the 26-30 range that would help? This is a very deep draft, it's also why I'm hoping no one bids on Cochrane over the next two nights rookie draft please. Fix the KPF and SF tonight, then ideally take two more before a bid.

27 may have the Tassie ones, but a top 10 pick is still valuable

Get it's a great draft with depth, but I doubt any KPF or SF prospect make an immediate premiership altering impression next year.onoy reason I can see us trading a future first would be if someone slides and we can grab them.

Tasmania will likely have 6 of the top 10 picks before father son, academy and such (not including a diluted talent pool by potential early draftees being outside the count). With our list profile, 27 draft picks will carry very little currency (also the reason why Fremantle are dreaming when they think 27 can be counted as a future first to be traded for Warner).

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Day-Wicks (mid/fwd)
Kirkwood-Scott (HB/mid)

In true swans fashion we'll take them at pick 22 lol

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Get it's a great draft with depth, but I doubt any KPF or SF prospect make an immediate premiership altering impression next year.onoy reason I can see us trading a future first would be if someone slides and we can grab them.

Tasmania will likely have 6 of the top 10 picks before father son, academy and such (not including a diluted talent pool by potential early draftees being outside the count). With our list profile, 27 draft picks will carry very little currency (also the reason why Fremantle are dreaming when they think 27 can be counted as a future first to be traded for Warner).

Other sides have played small forwards in the first year, apart from the Horse is as stubborn as a mule why on earth couldn't Hannaford for instance play? He's got the tricks and will put pressure on that's all we need for the second smallish player in there. The KPF isn't for next year but we need some depth badly.

It will be WCE not Freo anyway we have to worry about with Chad. He'll sign for 2 years anyway.

Our 2027 could be a top 6-8 selection, yes it is diluted a bit but it's still a top 15 pick (at worst)

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Lachie McKirdy Swans and Giants draft preview:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/afl-national-draft-2024-what-sydney-gws-have-planned-for-firstround-picks/news-story/aef6e57db439ce7df3e55701f35d881a

The Giants are likely to bring in four players at the draft, but that could expand to five depending on who is available. The Swans will look at a similar number with several players overlapping on their draft boards.

On Cochran, Keane added: “(Joel) clearly tested very strongly at the Combine and we know he’s a fantastic athlete.

“In terms of where we think a bid might come, look, we’re anticipating that a bid will come. We’re not sure where that is, though. All we can do is prepare for different scenarios in terms of the range he does get bid, and we’ll react accordingly.”

 

[momentbymoment]

Are we going to do something boring like picking a fringe player with a hyphenated name or doing something wild like selecting the obvious well known player?

Is this a rhetorical question?

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Are we going to do something boring like picking a fringe player with a hyphenated name or doing something wild like selecting the obvious well known player?

“The likely play is certainly for our first selection at 19, we’ll take what we deem is the best available on our board,” Keane said.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

“The likely play is certainly for our first selection at 19, we’ll take what we deem is the best available on our board,” Keane said.

Good to hear that. It's the smart play with pick 22.

 

[RUNVS]

From everything I have read and seen, with our first pick I would be happy with one of Jack Whitelock, Cooper Hynes or Jonty Faull. Anyone of them would fill a very strong need.

 

[WillHayward]

Kinnear Beatson ---- trades out our picks for early 2nd round so we can all get to bed early.

Strategy worked well when Kinnear let Hawthorn pick Weddle and then picked Kostanty...

 

[RUNVS]

Strategy worked well when Kinnear let Hawthorn pick Weddle and then picked Kostanty...

Yep, because for some reason Beatson did not rate that draft at all. Weddle would be nice to have and we can't even argue that he was unknown as many were expecting him to go around about our pick.

 

[Jeffers]

Can’t wait to take 2 people that no one has been talking about in this thread and rated 40+ according to the draft boards tonight.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yep, because for some reason Beatson did not rate that draft at all. Weddle would be nice to have and we can't even argue that he was unknown as many were expecting him to go around about our pick.

Everyone wanted talls let’s be real none have been great after our selection, Weddle is hardly a tall anyway he’s a good player but he’s not some big hulking key back

 

[Benmacca33]

How many picks are done tonight ?

 

[Bloods86]

Everyone wanted talls let’s be real none have been great after our selection, Weddle is hardly a tall anyway he’s a good player but he’s not some big hulking key back

Gruzewski would have been nice. He's broken through to play a few games, performing in VFL.