Game Day 2024 Draftmatmas live celebration and melt thread

[Tiger of Old]

Lets have a look at the highly rated KPF in this draft
Shannahan , JWhitlock , Armstrong , Faull , Sims

Armstrong was the highest rated and we got him
Then we had our choice of the next 2 of the remaining 4 and cherry picked the 2 we wanted and the other 2 went even later

Our recruiters would have done a mountain of work and forensically gone through every touch these boys had during the last 2 years of football.

Now its all about development and with Gray , Fawcett , Lefau , Sims , Armstrong , Faull all on our list
We need a really good KPF development coach to teach these kids the art of good foward play and not just leave it to an assistant coach.

We need a great specialist coach
Dermie , Lloyd anybody that is a specialist in the art of KPF craft

Question for far greater minds than myself. Out of all our KPF’s now on our list, which ones have the best attributes to maybe transition into defenders?

 

[sabso]

Question for far greater minds than myself. Out of all our KPF’s now on our list, which ones have the best attributes to maybe transition into defenders?

Balta

 

[Livonski]

Lets have a look at the highly rated KPF in this draft
Shannahan , JWhitlock , Armstrong , Faull , Sims

Armstrong was the highest rated and we got him
Then we had our choice of the next 2 of the remaining 4 and cherry picked the 2 we wanted and the other 2 went even later

Our recruiters would have done a mountain of work and forensically gone through every touch these boys had during the last 2 years of football.

Now its all about development and with Gray , Fawcett , Lefau , Sims , Armstrong , Faull all on our list
We need a really good KPF development coach to teach these kids the art of good foward play and not just leave it to an assistant coach.

We need a great specialist coach
Dermie , Lloyd anybody that is a specialist in the art of KPF craft

We need great development people for our KPPs, for sure, but if Dermie steps foot inside Punt Rd I’ll spew up.

 

[Groupie_]

Are you watching highlights or games?

highlights don’t do Jonty justice, his game style and presence is felt across four quarters of football.

No he isn’t a great mark but everything good for GWV through finals was through him, he (along with Hannaford/Ough) carried them to the Granny.

He’s always presenting and offering his team outlet options to relieve pressure, and while he won’t take a big pack mark (he’s perfectly fine on lead) he’ll halve the contest and than follow up at ground level either to create a stoppage or win the ball to a teammate.

And then he’ll do it again and again and again. He also hits the scoreboard and kicked huge goals in finals vs Falcons and Chargers.

Compare that to Armstrong, who is more talented and can take a pack mark (though he’s not Tom Lynch plucking everything, more like Ben Griffiths in that he has the ability in his kit bag and so it’s not unexpected when he takes one), but will often perform disappearing acts through out a game and you begin to wonder if he’s out there, especially concerning considering the midfield he had at Sandy. But very good at floating into space on turn over.

I think they’re actually a good compliment to each other, but I always wanted Jonty first as I trust his work rate and effort to present way more.

grim

 

[Lacustrus]

We need great development people for our KPPs, for sure, but if Dermie steps foot inside Punt Rd I’ll spew up.

I don’t mind him sometimes; but find it quite a bit off his discussion about toughness , concussion and afl, after seeing him knock out Danny Frawley to win a game, and snipe Tony Free .

The idea of him as assistant /development coach ?

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Now its all about development and with Gray , Fawcett , Lefau , Sims , Armstrong , Faull all on our list
We need a really good KPF development coach to teach these kids the art of good foward play and not just leave it to an assistant coach.

We need a great specialist coach
Dermie , Lloyd anybody that is a specialist in the art of KPF craft

Maybe the likes of JKennedy, Gunstan or Hawkins even?

 

[Livonski]

I don’t mind him sometimes; but find it quite a bit off his discussion about toughness , concussion and afl, after seeing him knock out Danny Frawley to win a game, and snipe Tony Free .

The idea of him as assistant /development coach ?

I heard some very ordinary stuff about him while assisting at StK. apart from trying to make something so much more complicated than it should be…spent lot of time on massage tables. Basically strutting around as you would imagine. Didn’t last long

 

[Mr Magic]

You’re making the mistake of taking too much notice of the pick number we secured him with.

We rated him as the best KPF prospect in the draft, which is a reasonable position to take, given the ‘next’ best KPF was also secured by us in the 20’s…. so I’d suggest we were one of MANY clubs who rated Faull the best.

So given we had so many picks, and given how badly we needed a KPF, a major focus this draft would’ve been to secure the player we regarded as the best KPF option, and bypassing him at 11 might’ve meant we lost him.

So I think there’s a decent chance we rated the likes of Berry, Allan or even Trainor as ‘best available’ at pick-11…. but we clearly rated Faull as best KPF and we didn’t want to leave a draft we had 8 x picks in the top-24 without our man.

Pick-11 isn’t as relevant as it would normally be so i wouldn’t worry about it - just pretend we got Armstrong at 11, Trainor at 18 and Faull at 23


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

we did not badly need a KPF

no team has as many prospects us us

 

[LTT]

we did not badly need a KPF

no team has as many prospects us us

Our young kpf’s are not going to play many games over the next couple of years. Gray, Kosi and Lafau will need to step up quickly or be delisted. Then it will be the young guys turn.

 

[tigerdan]

we did not badly need a KPF

no team has as many prospects us us

Christ Magic, we needed a talented KPF and that's what we got. All our KPFs with the exception of Lynch (out injured all the time) were pretty much spuds or guys played out of position.

 

[poppa pump]

All 8 newbies

 

[Mr Magic]

Our young kpf’s are not going to play many games over the next couple of years. Gray, Kosi and Lafau will need to step up quickly or be delisted. They it will be the young guys turn.

our midfield is a bigger issue.

Arguably Smillie CHB, pinch hits midfield and go forward, Lalor, forward, pinch hits midfield so we have not addresses it.

Armstrong forward, Hotton forward, Trainor back/forward, Faull forward, Sims forward/ruck, Alger forward

it is quite amazing how we prefer to ignore our midfield and to a lesser extent backline regularly

at a point in time in the years ahead we should be able to beat teams as they have no forwards because we picked them up. That is assuming we can get a midfield, let alone a backline that works

 

[Karp3_dm]

our midfield is a bigger issue.

Arguably Smillie CHB, pinch hits midfield and go forward, Lalor, forward, pinch hits midfield so we have not addresses it.

Armstrong forward, Hotton forward, Trainor back/forward, Faull forward, Sims forward/ruck, Alger forward

it is quite amazing how we prefer to ignore our midfield and to a lesser extent backline regularly

at a point in time in the years ahead we should be able to beat teams as they have no forwards because we picked them up. That is assuming we can get a midfield, let alone a backline that works

Smillie and Lalor are both midfielders

So what are you talking about haven’t addressed midfielders??

Did you want us to get Luke Parker instead?

 

[Calcium Man]

All 8 newbies View attachment 2180750

Clubs more interested in photos and marketing then training

 

[Coach_Required]

All 8 newbies View attachment 2180750

Did we grab 1 too many talls?

Was Armstrong just too good to refuse hence why we got him at 23? Did we think he would have easily been taken after we decided to draft Faull?

Sims to me is the DeKoning type ruckman we want to develop so i think we were always looking at him in hindsight.

 

[tigs2010]

All 8 newbies View attachment 2180750

 

[Mr Magic]

Smillie and Lalor are both midfielders

So what are you talking about haven’t addressed midfielders??

Did you want us to get Luke Parker instead?

Smillie is a hybrid and project

What he does against the kids is up for debate and lets get serious, Cripps best year was this year and who is to say Smillie can even get near nor is in his best interests for Smillie to emulate that anyway

RFC is about winning premierships, not collecting brownlows

Lalor may well be a forward that helps in the midfield. The jury is very much up for debate,

Again to win premierships it is about the team, the best combinations and best way to kick a higher score than oppositions on GF day, rather than worshipping players

 

[Muddiemoose]

All 8 newbies View attachment 2180750

Kinda look like the type of pretty boys Geelong like to recruit

Need to get the clippers out and shave them

 

[Karp3_dm]

Smillie is a hybrid and project

What he does against the kids is up for debate and lets get serious, Cripps best year was this year and who is to say Smillie can even get near nor is in his best interests for Smillie to emulate that anyway

RFC is about winning premierships, not collecting brownlows

Lalor may well be a forward that helps in the midfield. The jury is very much up for debate,

Again to win premierships it is about the team, the best combinations and best way to kick a higher score than oppositions on GF day, rather than worshipping players

Why is Smillie selfish?

You’re off meds again magic
Who’s worshipping?
It’s ok to be excited ya clown

 

[Moppey]

Probably the place to state who i wanted at each pick.

1/ Had two in mind Lalor and Draper not many had him going at 1. As is my usual i went the bigger mid.
If we had traded for pick 2 then Draper was it for me.

7/ Smillie was another i liked especially before the champs. Thought he the was best left on the board

12/ Allan was it for me was hoping like hell Lindsay would get to here and missed by one. I will say i had Hotton pegged just a bit later but was hoping we would target him at either 14 or 18.

14/ Allan was still there and would have taken him in front of Faull who i had in a large group of talls who i was sure would be there at around pick 20. If we had taken Allan at 12 then Hotton and Murphy Reid was the other i was torn on.

It is here that i lament we could not hang onto pick 14 became 16 i think, trading it for 18 in the Bolton deal.
Boy the options this pick would have opened up.

21/ Armstrong for me we took Trainor which i have come around to. Was hoping like hell Harrison Oliver or Cooper Hynes would get to pick 21 or 23. They both went at 19 and 20.

23/ for me had to be Armstrong given we took Trainor at 21.

28/ At 28 given we had taken Faull Armstrong and Trainor i was loking for another mid, small/med fwd or running player wing / hb. If we had taken Allan at 14 i would have taken Shanahan here but we had the three talls so i liked angus Clarke here coming off h/b.

We ended up with Sims and he looks a good pick as well.

I just have a slight concern about Faull i think he was a bit of a reach and at 14 was not the best player available.

If i could change one thing it would have been Allan or Reid at pick 14 and taken our talls with 21, 23 and 28 being Shanahan. Not a big difference in the end.

 

[Mr Magic]

Why is Smillie selfish?

You’re off meds again magic
Who’s worshipping?
It’s ok to be excited ya clown

Who said Smillie is selfish??

You are making up the story.

I am in the business of winning premierships, not saying this player is this or that, I focus on the teams output, matchups and premiership success

 

[Karp3_dm]

Who said Smillie is selfish??

You are making up the story.

I am in the business of winning premierships, not saying this player is this or that, I focus on the teams output, matchups and premiership success

Then u shouldn’t comment and have such a strong opinion on the players then

 

[Mr Magic]

Then u shouldn’t comment and have such a strong opinion on the players then

the opinion I have on players is they should be there to win premierships ultimately.

guess what , Smillie said in one release shortly after being drafted he is happy to play whatever role the team wants him to play.

Guess what, in my book Smillie's best role is the role that helps the team win premierships down the track if not right now

 

[Karp3_dm]

Which will be in the midfield
There isn’t much doubt mate

 

[LTT]

our midfield is a bigger issue.

Arguably Smillie CHB, pinch hits midfield and go forward, Lalor, forward, pinch hits midfield so we have not addresses it.

Armstrong forward, Hotton forward, Trainor back/forward, Faull forward, Sims forward/ruck, Alger forward

it is quite amazing how we prefer to ignore our midfield and to a lesser extent backline regularly

at a point in time in the years ahead we should be able to beat teams as they have no forwards because we picked them up. That is assuming we can get a midfield, let alone a backline that works

We got players that are two positions players not just pure midfielders. These kids will get game time quicker and develop faster. Plus midfielders develop faster than KPP’s anyway. If later we need mature pure midfielders they will be easy to trade in because there are always this type of players looking for opportunities.