Autopsy 2024 Elimination Final Blues blown away in first half. Never looked likely.

Who played well for the Blues in the Elimination final vs the Lions?


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If this is directed at me, I've never stated that all is well, but people don't need to be sacked to force positive change



Board members don't mark, kick, tackle

No list is perfect, evident by the changing nature of output for all sides
The board members are crucial to hold key appointments to account. Austin, Lloyd and a good portion of the assistants are not up to it. Austin and Lloyd have had 4+ years to impact. I blame Sayers for not forcing enough change in the football department.
 

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My point is that the preparation by the coaches (with selection being a massive part of our preparation this week) filters down to the playing group, and effects their mentality.

The coaches prepared very poorly for last night’s game. I think that is a huge factor in the players not being switched on for a final.
If the players are mentally effected, to produce that opening half. Because who was selected and who was sub, in an elimination final…

Then we might as well shut the joint down…
 
The board members are crucial to hold key appointments to account. Austin, Lloyd and a good portion of the assistants are not up to it. Austin and Lloyd have had 4+ years to impact. I blame Sayers for not forcing enough change in the football department.

We have become emotionally reactive again.

Happened mid season last year, then subsided, until the last 6-8 weeks

There will be some minor tweaks, and that's how it should play out, unless people were purposely neglect in their role
 
"Carlton coach Michael Voss told his players their performance was not up to standard in an assessment of their elimination final loss to the Brisbane Lions that vice-captain Sam Walsh described as “pointed”."

“That game summed up a bit of our year; too inconsistent [and] not hard enough to play against at times,” Walsh said.


What is that bullshit from doc? Admitting he was under done etc? Weird feeling this week? What do you mean? Why did you all out your hand up?
 
No it’s definitely a weakness when it comes to those players being able to press and contain as a midfielder group, although i was more talking about the overall team press, we shut down the oppositions space much better last season than we have this season…
Your right though it’s one area of weakness that can flow on and effect the entire system…
Yeah that’s what I see. The slow mids cause massive problems because the backs get caught knowing there will be no chase down from behind from the mids. So the backs have to press up which creates holes.
 
We have become emotionally reactive again.

Happened mid season last year, then subsided, until the last 6-8 weeks

There will be some minor tweaks, and that's how it should play out, unless people were purposely neglect in their role
You have run the minor tweak arguement for many years. Even Voss said last night how hard it is to get from 8th to 4th. If you don't make major changes, the premiership window will close. It is not emotional, the evidence of the last 8 weeks is irrefutable
 
We have become emotionally reactive again.

Happened mid season last year, then subsided, until the last 6-8 weeks

There will be some minor tweaks, and that's how it should play out, unless people were purposely neglect in their role

Think we are allowed to be…ive had to watch a lot of shit from this club but I’ve never seen us go down 61-0
 
You have run the minor tweak arguement for many years. Even Voss said last night how hard it is to get from 8th to 4th. If you don't make major changes, the premiership window will close. It is not emotional, the evidence of the last 8 weeks is irrefutable

I can't think of too many clubs that break into the 8, that then don't slightly plateau

It is difficult to know if we take the next step, or continue to be thereabouts, or head back down the ladder

No doubt there will be changes, but there won't be a broom strategy
 

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I can't think of too many clubs that break into the 8, that then don't slightly plateau

It is difficult to know if we take the next step, or continue to be thereabouts, or head back down the ladder

No doubt there will be changes, but there won't be a broom strategy

Richmond 2016 draft. Massive change in just recruiting.
No.29 - Shai Bolton

No.53 - Jack Graham

Rookie Elevation - Jayden Short

Trade - Dion Prestia

Trade - Toby Nankervis

Trade - Josh Caddy
 
I can't think of too many clubs that break into the 8, that then don't slightly plateau

It is difficult to know if we take the next step, or continue to be thereabouts, or head back down the ladder

No doubt there will be changes, but there won't be a broom strategy

Swans did. Made the 2022 GF, fell into the 8 last year due to a goal umpiring decision now flag favourites.

Richmond in 2016 before their flag in 2017, Geelong in 2006 before 2007.
 
You have run the minor tweak arguement for many years. Even Voss said last night how hard it is to get from 8th to 4th. If you don't make major changes, the premiership window will close. It is not emotional, the evidence of the last 8 weeks is irrefutable

It’s more than a tweak. We are at a real crossroads

You don’t lose 8 of 10 games and then go 60-0 in a final if it’s just a few minor issues

Some serious changes need to occur. We have already seen one around our fitness team

Coaching, recruiting and development are next
 
Shows the importance of finishing top 4

Oh how I imagine so many players would want a second go at that first half
Totally and a good run in.

Personally
Think we need a top line small forward
Another key defender
A kick out plan other than going long to a contest
Maybe some speed/point of difference in the mids

Other than that I'm happy with the blues. Were close l
 
The team was well and truly fit enough to start with intent. If we fell away late, then that would point more to picking the wrong players. The way were beaten suggests we were mentally not up for the challenge at the start. Regardless of Brisbane easing up, if we were not fit then we wouldn't win the second half and a bit by 5 goals.

Why were we cooked going into the Hawthorn game? We had just had two 8 day breaks, which was the best freshen up we had had since the bye. And if we were cooked (which I agree we were), why can't that explain us basically being cooked for the last third of the season, including last night? We hit a wall, Russell "resigned", and we looked a shell of the team we had been for the first 16 rounds.

It wouldn't have mattered who we picked; we simply seemed unable to turn it around unfortunately.
Team was no-where near 100%. To many underdone, half fit, out of form players. Just weren't fit enough to impact when the game was hot. Do admit they lacked intent.

7 weeks prior we sat 2nd, 6pys clear and near flag favourites. Then we started picking half, it, out of form players and suddenly, we went from far way the best 4th qtr team to be stuffed after one good qtr. Then playing half fit, out of form players caused even more injuries until be broke completely come the Hawthorn game. Before our fitness man and our Coach/MC with team selection, it crashed completely before our eyes. Then it was topped by awful team selection for the EF last night.
 

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