Player Watch 2024 Father-Son player watch - Ky Burgoyne and Ned Maginness

[wahawk]

Academies need to be AFL academies rather than club academies.
AFL funded & eligible to any club

If the AFL were serious about their academy theory then that would be the only logical way of running that program

 

[Kuuz]

 

[HedgeFund]

Academies need to be AFL academies rather than club academies.
AFL funded & eligible to any club

If the AFL were serious about their academy theory then that would be the only logical way of running that program

How the northern academies are transforming footy

Marc McGowan looks at how football generally is benefitting from the northern academy system

www.afl.com.au

You do realise that the Qld/NSW club academies were established to grow the game and compete with rugby x 2 don’t you?

 

[RobHawk]

How the northern academies are transforming footy

Marc McGowan looks at how football generally is benefitting from the northern academy system

www.afl.com.au

You do realise that the Qld/NSW club academies were established to grow the game and compete with rugby x 2 don’t you?

This is not a counter argument to having the academies AFL funded and players from the academies available to all teams.
By the way these academies are most likely already subsidised by the AFL in an underhanded way

 

[Topiary]

Academies need to be AFL academies rather than club academies.
AFL funded & eligible to any club

If the AFL were serious about their academy theory then that would be the only logical way of running that program

I agree but nothing is going to change until the northern clubs are “successful”

 

[HedgeFund]

This is not a counter argument to having the academies AFL funded and players from the academies available to all teams.
By the way these academies are most likely already subsidised by the AFL in an underhanded way

The “academy theory” argument is not in line with the AFL’s stated purpose.

The OP wants them to be something they were never intended to be.

That’s not “logical”.

 

[HairyO]

The “academy theory” argument is not in line with the AFL’s stated purpose.

The OP wants them to be something they were never intended to be.

That’s not “logical”.

Do you think the AFL intended for them to give GCS 6 untouchable players in 2 years who could then dominate the game for years to come?

Or were they intended to give northern clubs maybe 1 player a year to help them slowly build a stable list?

 

[Topiary]

I agree but nothing is going to change until the northern clubs are “successful”

The current AFL CEO wants the northern clubs to be successful and there to be “a steady stream of talented footballers for them to draft”

 

[HedgeFund]

Do you think the AFL intended for them to give GCS 6 untouchable players in 2 years who could then dominate the game for years to come?

Or were they intended to give northern clubs maybe 1 player a year to help them slowly build a stable list?

Yep - the first

The AFL intended to make GCS and GWS as successful and attractive as possible to the locals so it would grow the game nationally.

 

[lyger]

View attachment 1971947

I like the sound of;

Excellent defensive pressure
Elite running power
Delivery by foot was a feature

 

[mustang]

I like the sound of;
Excellent defensive pressure
Elite running power
Delivery by foot was a feature

Good for a defender could he be the tall defender we are after a bit like Jonathan Hay was running out of the back line he started on a wing need him to go to 197 what is he at the moment 194.

 

[lyger]

Good for a defender could he be the tall defender we are after a bit like Jonathan Hay was running out of the back line he started on a wing.

I haven’t seen Ned play so hard for me to say, but my impression is that he is not the same caliber of athlete that Hay and Croad were. Maybe more likely to develop into someone like Scrim?

 

[hawkinoz]

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Was 188cm last year as per RookieMe, so he has grown 6cms...

See same stat here

Host of AFL Mid-Season Draft prospects named in Young Guns squad

The 24-player squad will take on Vic Metro this weekend.

www.zerohanger.com

is the above match report from this game against Vic Metro?

Seems like Young Guns have another game this weekend against VC.

Squads for Young Guns v Vic Country match announced

Many of Victoria’s top prospects eligible for selection in this year’s AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft will again be in action this weekend in the second game of the 2024 Young Guns Series

www.afl.com.au

Ned's latest pic

Young Guns Series 2024 - Young Guns v Victoria Metro U18 Boys - A-47363770 - AFL Photos

www.aflphotos.com.au

 

[eldorado]

Good for a defender could he be the tall defender we are after a bit like Jonathan Hay was running out of the back line he started on a wing.

Punctuation is your ally, mate...

 

[wahawk]

How the northern academies are transforming footy

Marc McGowan looks at how football generally is benefitting from the northern academy system

www.afl.com.au

You do realise that the Qld/NSW club academies were established to grow the game and compete with rugby x 2 don’t you?

I don’t understand why you insist on posting as if no person except you, actually knows anything.

I know the purpose of the academies, as I’m sure most on here do.

The discussion, had you have read it, was about making the academies fairer for all clubs

 

[HedgeFund]

I don’t understand why you insist on posting as if no person except you, actually knows anything.

I know the purpose of the academies, as I’m sure most on here do.

The discussion, had you have read it, was about making the academies fairer for all clubs

You said the AFL should make it fairer. I said that’s not what they set it up for.

It’s like you saying the TAB should refund every second losing bet you put on, so you feel better and it looks fairer.

It’s never going to happen.

Given you know what the academies were created to achieve, it’s odd you’re suggesting the AFL would / could change that.

Especially when the “cut through” of the competition in QLD / NSW is still far short of where the AFL says it wants it to be.

Maybe it will change, probably in 20-30 years’ time after multiple GC and GWS flags and when they have sell out games and membership numbers of 100k+

In Victoria, where we all know 50% of AFL players come from, the Coates League is the elite pathway which is overseen and funded by the AFL already. All clubs are able to pick kids from here via the draft.

What more do you want? How would change to the academy system make things fairer than clubs drafting kids from state elite programs?

Anyhow - good hit out from Ned and he’s clearly getting taller and bigger.

Might be a rookie “smoky” for us 2025

 

[wahawk]

You said the AFL should make it fairer. I said that’s not what they set it up for.

It’s like you saying the TAB should refund every second losing bet you put on, so you feel better and it looks fairer.

It’s never going to happen.

Given you know what the academies were created to achieve, it’s odd you’re suggesting the AFL would / could change that.

Especially when the “cut through” of the competition in QLD / NSW is still far short of where the AFL says it wants it to be.

Maybe it will change, probably in 20-30 years’ time after multiple GC and GWS flags and when they have sell out games and membership numbers of 100k+

In Victoria, where we all know 50% of AFL players come from, the Coates League is the elite pathway which is overseen and funded by the AFL already. All clubs are able to pick kids from here via the draft.

What more do you want? How would change to the academy system make things fairer than clubs drafting kids from state elite programs?

Anyhow - good hit out from Ned and he’s clearly getting taller and bigger.

Might be a rookie “smoky” for us 2025

It’s too hard to have a discussion with someone who doesn’t read what the (that particular) discussion is

AGAIN
I know the purpose of the academies.

THAT IS NOT WHAT THAT DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT

 

[HedgeFund]

It’s too hard to have a discussion with someone who doesn’t read what the (that particular) discussion is

AGAIN
I know the purpose of the academies.

THAT IS NOT WHAT THAT DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT

Okay Donald.

 

[wahawk]

Okay Donald.

WTF ??

 

[Steven Tyler]

What more do you want? How would change to the academy system make things fairer than clubs drafting kids from state elite programs?

1: Father/sons cannot be in another clubs academy

2: The same rules apply for all 18 teams when it comes to drafting kids from academy’s

 

[Dewnior]

You said the AFL should make it fairer. I said that’s not what they set it up for.

It’s like you saying the TAB should refund every second losing bet you put on, so you feel better and it looks fairer.

It’s never going to happen.

Given you know what the academies were created to achieve, it’s odd you’re suggesting the AFL would / could change that.

Especially when the “cut through” of the competition in QLD / NSW is still far short of where the AFL says it wants it to be.

Maybe it will change, probably in 20-30 years’ time after multiple GC and GWS flags and when they have sell out games and membership numbers of 100k+

In Victoria, where we all know 50% of AFL players come from, the Coates League is the elite pathway which is overseen and funded by the AFL already. All clubs are able to pick kids from here via the draft.

What more do you want? How would change to the academy system make things fairer than clubs drafting kids from state elite programs?

Anyhow - good hit out from Ned and he’s clearly getting taller and bigger.

Might be a rookie “smoky” for us 2025

I don't have a fundamental issue with the academies, my issue is with the discount the northern clubs get in addition to the priority access. Remove the discount and make them pay market value.

 

[MrPremiership]

Kobe Williams is next year?

Did I see Illiro Smit get a game for the Young Guns recently? Wasn't he part of our academy?

 

[Brant]

Kobe Williams is next year?

Did I see Illiro Smit get a game for the Young Guns recently? Wasn't he part of our academy?

I reckon he was. Is listed at Box Hill, now. Don't think he's played yet though.

 

[Rowie6]

How the northern academies are transforming footy

Marc McGowan looks at how football generally is benefitting from the northern academy system

www.afl.com.au

You do realise that the Qld/NSW club academies were established to grow the game and compete with rugby x 2 don’t you?

Yes but I am not sure how father son’s from other clubs fit that mould?


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[tl92]

Yes but I am not sure how father son’s from other clubs fit that mould?


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Problem is if father sons live in QLD & NSW, are there elite pathways to the afl outside of the academies? I don’t see the rules on FS changing until this issue is resolved.