List Mgmt. 2024 Father Son watch MKIII. Operation Ashcroft jnr. Featuring various academy boys.

[Jivlain]

 

[dlanod]

So I am assuming that even if we trade up to 24 that our first pick won’t be until tomorrow night?

Correct. It's in Round 2, so will be the second pick tomorrow night.

 

[briztoon]

And you're hoping we get him? I'd much rather have Zakostelsky who won't get outrun and outreached so easily.

Depends. I haven’t watched any vision of Murphy, so I don’t know if he plays as slow as he tested.

He was highly regarded by all main media draft watchers before his testing. So he had to have shown something on field that no one raised concerns about, unlike a few of the other “slower” players.

Do I hope we get him? Not really, as I’ve always said I believe there’s quite a few smaller players likely to be available at our selections with a higher probability of making it, than many of the KPP’s.

 

[Section 5]

So I am assuming that even if we trade up to 24 that our first pick won’t be until tomorrow night?

BRISBANE LIONS

Picks: 30, 39, 51, 54, 67


Latest intel: Without their first-round pick due to the Josh Dunkley deal. The Lions are however set to move up the draft order slightly by landing Gold Coast’s Pick 24 in exchange for selections 30 and 39 or a swap of later picks to supplement Gold Coast with more points. Should Brisbane move up the order, it’s been linked to Gippsland Power forward-ruck Archer Reid, while they could also look at small forwards Phoenix Gothard and Koen Sanchez. The Lions are also reportedly looking at defensive options, with Arie Schoenmaker, Zane Zakotelsky and Wil Dawson potential options.

Best-case scenarios: Quickly get their hands on Gold Coast’s Pick 24, which will be the second selection of the second night of the draft. It gives them more options and makes their decision to go either tall or small with their first pick easier.

Worst-case scenario: Somehow miss out on Pick 24 to another club and the Suns find a separate suitor for Pick 26, meaning the Lions’ first selection doesn’t come in as far.

Snubs, steals and shock deals: Every club’s best and worst case AFL Draft scenario

Snubs, steals and shock deals: Every club’s best and worst case AFL Draft scenario

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Viceregal]

Depends. I haven’t watched any vision of Murphy, so I don’t know if he plays as slow as he tested.

He was highly regarded by all main media draft watchers before his testing. So he had to have shown something on field that no one raised concerns about, unlike a few of the other “slower” players.

Tanked his testing to avoid getting picked by certain teams / hoping to be picked up by a team that already knows how good he is?

 

[Miller1971]

As for Jaspa Fletcher being an academy product, I definitely wouldn’t be claiming that, and would credit all the hard work Jaspa and his dad put in the 24 months before he was drafted.

His Dad basically took a QAFL Senior coaching gig to advance Jaspa to where he needed to be and it worked.

Levi & Sam Marshall in next years AFL academy.

2024 AFL National Academy squads announced

The 2024 AFL National Academy squads have been announced, featuring many of the country’s most promising footballers eligible for the 2024 AFL and AFLW Drafts

www.afl.com.au

Sam Marshall would have to he one of the most overrated players out there, along with Caleb Nancarrow. Seems going to boarding school in Vic immediately enhances your ability without actuially having to perform.

No guarantee of getting them if 2 of Gillett, Hewitt, Marshall end up pushing into top 20.

We have an academy limit of taking only one player in top 20 if we finish top 4.

None of those boys will be Top 20. The only guy with top 20 talent in the Lions academy for 2024 draft is Gilder, but right now he would be lucky to be drafted at all. Needs a big year. in 2024

 

[dlanod]

Sam Marshall would have to he one of the most overrated players out there, along with Caleb Nancarrow. Seems going to boarding school in Vic immediately enhances your ability without actuially having to perform.

Wouldn't be the first. Visibility is a great enhancer to talent perception.

 

[David C]

That's not multiple teams jockeying for pick 24.

That's Twomey saying what potential trades are in place.

Fremantle don't have the picks to get up in to the 20's without sacrificing all their picks for one. 34, 46, 60, 63, 74.

Not sure what Twomey is on about in regards to St Kilda. 13, 21, 40, 77, 82, 86. They don't have the picks to trade up.

St Kilda are looking to trade a future pick to Melb for their pick 42 which Melb are not planning to use. Then supposedly packaging 40 and 42 to get one of GC's picks.

 

[Dalions]

St Kilda are looking to trade a future pick to Melb for their pick 42 which Melb are not planning to use. Then supposedly packaging 40 and 42 to get one of GC's picks.

They might get 26, 27 or 32 with that but they won’t get 24.

 

[Ticky009]

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[T Rick]

Tanked his testing to avoid getting picked by certain teams / hoping to be picked up by a team that already knows how good he is?

Had crossed my mind - has anyone ever "tanked" the draft combine...I doubt it.

 

[Dalions]

Had crossed my mind - has anyone ever "tanked" the draft combine...I doubt it.

I think these days if they are tanking they just fake an injury.

 

[SizeMatters]

Actually think the top 15 of this draft looks fairly good. Wouldn't say it's a poor draft at all. Some very solid players coming through and I feel in 6 years time it will be considered strong. At least the first round that is. Depth is shit though.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Interesting that Archer Reid is available at the pick we're rumoured to be trading for in Twomey's final phantom draft. But who knows, none of us predicted the Kai Lohmann pick so maybe the club throw a curve ball and take someone like Lual who we aren't expecting.

 

[Royboy1961]

Actually think the top 15 of this draft looks fairly good. Wouldn't say it's a poor draft at all. Some very solid players coming through and I feel in 6 years time it will be considered strong. At least the first round that is. Depth is s**t though.

I have a different opinion on this draft as I believe that due to COVID restrictions in Victoria many of the players in Victoria are under developed as they have missed atleast 12 months of football. This means that many of the other States have players that are more AFL ready than the Victorian players who are usually the bulk of the AFL recruits. I have no doubt that the recruiters will be looking at the Victorians very carefully especially for the ones with developable AFL traits.

 

[Warwick]

Surely West Coast won't trade their future 1st??

That's a (conservative) 85% chance of being pick 1.

 

[Crusha]

Going to be a strange draft Night tonight. Strange as in where my interest lies.
Very interested in the start ....... to see if we trade up with Gold Coast for 24 (and which picks we use - and whether the optimists are right about 2024 2nd or 3rd rounder coming back).
Then, no real interest per se in who goes where, but how the possible trading of picks/ Father Son - Academy bids may play out, and how that affects the picks in the teens.
Interest will start to rise again as the picks move into the early 20's, to see who comes off the board, reaching a peak as the round nears the end (probably cheering more for who doesn't get picked, than who does).

Followed by a looooong wait to see what we do the next night with what we then have and who might be available.

That actually sounds like a more interesting night than last years draft (where we knew Ashcroft & Fletcher were coming regardless).

 

[Maboo]

The attacks from the south have started re northern academies, the latest headline reads The Compromised System Hurting 14 Clubs. They are all ****ed up over the Suns haul this year.

 

[M Malice]

Only a couple of things I'm interested in re tonight.

1- If we get the mooted pick swap done.

2- Who is left over, I'm sure there will be the inevitable slider that nobody saw coming, will be even more interesting if we do move up and grab the 2nd selection of tomorrow evening.

 

[McIvor]

The attacks from the south have started re northern academies, the latest headline reads The Compromised System Hurting 14 Clubs. They are all ****ed up over the Suns haul this year.

Swans before that when they got Heeney and Mills and then the caniption around that time with GWS and their access to that VIC border area with NSW Riverina perhaps, which was ultimately taken away from Giants if not mistaken?

 

[SizeMatters]

I have a different opinion on this draft as I believe that due to COVID restrictions in Victoria many of the players in Victoria are under developed as they have missed atleast 12 months of football. This means that many of the other States have players that are more AFL ready than the Victorian players who are usually the bulk of the AFL recruits. I have no doubt that the recruiters will be looking at the Victorians very carefully especially for the ones with developable AFL traits.

dunno, I reckon the COVID impact has been overstated. These kids aren't even in professional environments... might put them back a bit but once in the AFL system they'll get up to speed to where they 'may' have been if COVID never happened. The main issue is the blokes who would have been marginal recruits anyway (depth of the draft) have not had the full opportunity to develop and show their wares.

The talent is/was/has always been there and I think the top prospects this year compare favourably to past seasons. If anything it's more an injustice that the Allies squad has been talked down in this way due to "Victoria was covid impacted and the allies wouldn't have been as good if there were never covid" - not saying you were implying that.

The Allies squad is actually damn good. they won it all even against WA/SA who weren't as covid impacted as VIC.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Found this video of Luamon Lual and his story. Gosh it must be tough losing your mum while you're still a kid. His dad is a real champion.

 

[McIvor]

As a neutral; I’d like to see Eagles wind up with Reid and the WA kid Curtain and then the Suns forced to pay up for the host of kids they’ve got.

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

Is the draft on tonight? The AFL website says it's in 5 days.

 

[rye]

pick 24 acquired

 

[McIvor]

Nice that we drafted out our picks and got 24 and kept 39