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So the Club has decided to carry 2 extra rookies into next season I don't understand that it means we have 2 less senior spots available on the clubs list

can the club elevate rookies
These days there's no difference between senior players and rookie list players beyond some salary cap concessions and the length of the initial contract (if just drafted). Having the maximum number of rookies is normal for contending clubs because it maxes out the amount of player contracts outside the cap. Having the maximum number of senior list players is common for other clubs because they generally want to have the most national draft picks available because the talent is more available earlier, not in the rookie draft.
 
These days there's no difference between senior players and rookie list players beyond some salary cap concessions and the length of the initial contract (if just drafted). Having the maximum number of rookies is normal for contending clubs because it maxes out the amount of player contracts outside the cap. Having the maximum number of senior list players is common for other clubs because they generally want to have the most national draft picks available because the talent is more available earlier, not in the rookie draft.
Thanks dlanod
 
Berry is pretty impactful in that position if we needed to cover a handful of weeks
And we do have extra coverage for the wing as well. So I wouldnt be overly worried if we had to play Berry in the bigger defensive mid role for a few weeks.

Also we still have Dev right? Thats another who I think could play the bigger body easily. Its probably his best position overall. Just never got much time to play it
 

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Levi - 6: There is uncertainty on where the Ashcroft bid comes, but Ashcroft is Brisbane-bound as a father-son selection regardless. He will join forces with his Norm Smith Medal-winning brother Will after their father Marcus played in three flags as a Lion. Ashcroft is ultra-professional, self-driven and a dual under-18 All-Australian.
Marshall - 22: The hot tip is the Swans will place a bid on the Lions’ academy prospect, who runs all day and finished the season well, including receiving best-on-ground honours in Sandringham’s third-straight Talent League premiership. Brisbane does not really need another midfielder, but Marshall will provide quality depth. If not: Sydney may wait until their next pick to place a bid.

Article also says Rhys Unwin has been linked to us and GWS
 
Going at 6 seems unlikely don’t think we’ll get off that easily
One thing I'd say is that I don't think he will go at #5. #5 gets $5k while #6 gets nothing. So I'd imagine whoever has the #5 will select the player they're actually eligible to get, as a gesture of goodwill towards that young man.

#2 to #4 are in play tho I reckon.
 
I think currently contending clubs are more likely to bid to weaken our future hand,so Carlton yes
Will be interesting. Carlton went all chips in on pick 3, then bid on a player they can't take, before taking their intended target? We will see...

Might be moot anyway if the bid comes at 2 - Norf have history with us if they are still picking there! 🤣
 
Article also says Rhys Unwin has been linked to us and GWS
Interesting. I would have thought we'd be looking at talls later on, but clearly we like Unwin's weapons. Speed is something you can't teach.

And maybe this also explains why we kept Craven: we want a fast young pressure forward to develop behind Charlie.

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Interesting. I would have thought we'd be looking at talls later on, but clearly we like Unwin's weapons. Speed is something you can't teach.

And maybe this also explains why we kept Craven: we want a fast young pressure forward to develop behind Charlie.

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Speed is also important to balance in our team as we don't have a lot of players with alot of pace. Our miss are all relatively slow so balancing the with some fast defensive half forwards seems like a good play. Especially when they are players you can generally get on the cheap.
 
Speed is also important to balance in our team as we don't have a lot of players with alot of pace. Our miss are all relatively slow so balancing the with some fast defensive half forwards seems like a good play. Especially when they are players you can generally get on the cheap.

That said, when we play fast with our kicking game, our speed in decision making absolutely trumps fast ball use. Not saying having fast guys isn't important or helpful, but fast and accurate ball movement is chefs kiss and why we won the flag 🤌
 
That said, when we play fast with our kicking game, our speed in decision making absolutely trumps fast ball use. Not saying having fast guys isn't important or helpful, but fast and accurate ball movement is chefs kiss and why we won the flag 🤌
It's interesting to think about the development of our team over the 8 years to our flag under Fagan. We have kind of done it in fundamental layers like so:

1) added key young talls and added senior talls to mentor / protect them
2) added a lot of coalface clearance midfielders
3) added skilled disposal across half back
4) added defensive minded midfielders and half forwards
5) now we seem to be trying to add speed across the ground.

If I was a list manager, I think that's about as fundamental way to build a football club as you could list out.
 
As a matter of interest have we ever been in a position to bid on another team's father-son or Academy player and pulled the trigger to "keep them honest"?
We bid on Charie Cameron's brother. West Coast academy.
 
I can see the actual logic of that as distinct from playing the "keep them honest/make them pay overs" type scenario.
The people that go on about "keep them honest" are the same ones that would lose their shit at their club if they bid on a player early and the other club doesn't match.
 
That said, when we play fast with our kicking game, our speed in decision making absolutely trumps fast ball use. Not saying having fast guys isn't important or helpful, but fast and accurate ball movement is chefs kiss and why we won the flag 🤌
“You always look slow when you haven’t got the ball and chasin’” Tom Hafey circa 1980s
 

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