List Mgmt. 2024 GWS Giants List Management - Academy, Free Agent, Trade & Draft

[sydney_gws]

It's okay, good even, until we're carrying more than about 2-3 injuries... or in a few positions, a single one (I'm looking at you Briggs/Green/Hogan)!

If Cadman improves as expected, Riccardi maintains his form we are still a reasonable forward line without Hogan, but clearly better with him in it.
Greene/Hogan kicked more goals between them in 2024 than 2023, clearly the best forward duo in the AFL at the moment.

 

[GWS Goose]

A bit depends on how they view Rowston and Leake too.

I think they love them dont they?

The one who excites me is McMullen, I think he is going to be a ripper. He is so clean and makes good aggressive options look easy. Plus he is pretty dynamic. In my outragous takes I had him being a future AA player.

 

[Giant Pete]

I think they love them dont they?

The one who excites me is McMullen, I think he is going to be a ripper. He is so clean and makes good aggressive options look easy. Plus he is pretty dynamic. In my outragous takes I had him being a future AA player.

He could be… he is still carrying a bit of puppy fat imo… he is a very powerful kid though.

 

[Giant Gutsache]

Hypothetical if all of the mentioned end up leaving:
Idun Taylor Whitfield
Ash Buckley Fonti
Callaghan Cogs Kelly
Greene Cadman Ricca
Jones Hogan Daniels
Briggs Green Snooze

Ward HH Muff Brown/Rowston/Leake etc

We would probably take an extra first round and a few extra second and third rounders to the draft.

Big draft if we don’t recruit any mature players.

Caruso et al. have done a superb job with our draft hands since they took over… they will be licking their lips.

Where do the opportunities lie if we are looking to trade up?

Great looking side.
I suspect Callaghan will be a full time inside mid. Daniels and Jones pushing up to the wing with Gothard hopefully coming along too.
Ward also to the wing if he gets a game.
Pretty exciting list.

 

[eaglevision]

Hey fellas and ladies.

Just looking for a bit of insight into the Giants draft plans this year. Would there be any appetite to swap a couple of your mid/later picks for our F2 or is the plan to maintain a strong presence this year?

 

[GWS Goose]

Hey fellas and ladies.

Just looking for a bit of insight into the Giants draft plans this year. Would there be any appetite to swap a couple of your mid/later picks for our F2 or is the plan to maintain a strong presence this year?

Depends what we end up with I guess.
If we lose all those guys and end up with 5 or 6 in that second round range I guess we will look to trade up or into next year.

 

[Giant Strides]

Hey fellas and ladies.

Just looking for a bit of insight into the Giants draft plans this year. Would there be any appetite to swap a couple of your mid/later picks for our F2 or is the plan to maintain a strong presence this year?

The only thing I'd add to the previous answer is that we do have an academy kid, Logan Smith, that we're likely to look to pick up. He's somewhere in that mid-30s to 50s range (really hard to judge this year), so we'll likely aim to hold a couple of later picks to cover paying for him.

 

[Adam Giant]

Things I’d like to see in 2025:

• Aleer tried as the third/ intercepting defender which would move HH into a wing role. I still question Harry’s ability as a pure defender but he is a good kick and mark around the ground which is important with Cumming now leaving. It could be a great move for Leek too so long as Taylor and Buckley are playing as lockdown defenders.
• Ash tried in the midfield. I think his explosiveness and general running strengths could add a point of difference in an otherwise sameish midfield. Fonti to therefore take Ash’s backline spot after some solid showings this year.
• Cadman playing more minutes up the ground as a ruck chop out. Assume he’ll put on a bit more size and improve his tank with another off season. This reduces the need to play someone like Keeffe in the forward line who can’t kick goals.
• Callum Brown back in the side. Another x-factor player who started this year so well. He can kick goals from long range and has incredible athleticism and speed. Such a weapon when his confidence is up.

What have I missed?

 

[Mors]

Things I’d like to see in 2025:

• Aleer tried as the third/ intercepting defender which would move HH into a wing role. I still question Harry’s ability as a pure defender but he is a good kick and mark around the ground which is important with Cumming now leaving. It could be a great move for Leek too so long as Taylor and Buckley are playing as lockdown defenders.
• Ash tried in the midfield. I think his explosiveness and general running strengths could add a point of difference in an otherwise sameish midfield. Fonti to therefore take Ash’s backline spot after some solid showings this year.
• Cadman playing more minutes up the ground as a ruck chop out. Assume he’ll put on a bit more size and improve his tank with another off season. This reduces the need to play someone like Keeffe in the forward line who can’t kick goals.
• Callum Brown back in the side. Another x-factor player who started this year so well. He can kick goals from long range and has incredible athleticism and speed. Such a weapon when his confidence is up.

What have I missed?

Reckon I agree with everything said here. One thing I'd like is to get someone new into Ward's wing spot. I know he's had a great year after moving there but I think he'll be best used in the sub role and it'd be better to get someone like McMullin or Jones up onto the wing in his place.

 

[eaglevision]

Depends what we end up with I guess.
If we lose all those guys and end up with 5 or 6 in that second round range I guess we will look to trade up or into next year.

The only thing I'd add to the previous answer is that we do have an academy kid, Logan Smith, that we're likely to look to pick up. He's somewhere in that mid-30s to 50s range (really hard to judge this year), so we'll likely aim to hold a couple of later picks to cover paying for him.

Thanks fellas, very reasonable responses as always. Smith is definitely the second best ruck in the cohort after Dodson, I really rate him. I guess with a couple of picks in the early 20s and 30s probably coming in you need to find a balance with a few high picks and late picks to match.

Congrats on the season, a couple of brutal losses that could easily have gone the other way and you guys be playing tomorrow. Hope the squad stays fit over summer.

 

[Giant Strides]

Thanks fellas, very reasonable responses as always. Smith is definitely the second best ruck in the cohort after Dodson, I really rate him. I guess with a couple of picks in the early 20s and 30s probably coming in you need to find a balance with a few high picks and late picks to match.

Congrats on the season, a couple of brutal losses that could easily have gone the other way and you guys be playing tomorrow. Hope the squad stays fit over summer.

Yes, a few picks in the 20s/30s/40s this year is a decent opportunity for Caruso and his team to identify talent outside the first round, which should help balance our list out.

Thanks, and good luck with the rebuild.

 

[sydney_gws]

So keen to see him after a proper preseason. Can take a grab, good in the contest and a very good kick.

Where will Leake play. I think if he is not injured, will be in our round 1 team. Daniels might play more midfield next year, if Leake plays HFF.

 

[sydney_gws]

Things I’d like to see in 2025:

• Aleer tried as the third/ intercepting defender which would move HH into a wing role. I still question Harry’s ability as a pure defender but he is a good kick and mark around the ground which is important with Cumming now leaving. It could be a great move for Leek too so long as Taylor and Buckley are playing as lockdown defenders.
• Ash tried in the midfield. I think his explosiveness and general running strengths could add a point of difference in an otherwise sameish midfield. Fonti to therefore take Ash’s backline spot after some solid showings this year.
• Cadman playing more minutes up the ground as a ruck chop out. Assume he’ll put on a bit more size and improve his tank with another off season. This reduces the need to play someone like Keeffe in the forward line who can’t kick goals.
• Callum Brown back in the side. Another x-factor player who started this year so well. He can kick goals from long range and has incredible athleticism and speed. Such a weapon when his confidence is up.

What have I missed?

Keefe was only playing instead of Riccardi.
If Himmelberg isn't in the backline, I would like to see him be back up ruck.

 

[sydney_gws]

Yes, a few picks in the 20s/30s/40s this year is a decent opportunity for Caruso and his team to identify talent outside the first round, which should help balance our list out.

Thanks, and good luck with the rebuild.

Only problem is those 2nd rounders get 2 year deals, mightn't play much. Then they get offers to leave , with Melbourne clubs offering up a 3rd round pick.

 

[GWS Goose]

Where will Leake play. I think if he is not injured, will be in our round 1 team. Daniels might play more midfield next year, if Leake plays HFF.

It'd be in the mix for both midfield and if Perryman leaves, his role

 

[Adam Giant]

Keefe was only playing instead of Riccardi.

I’ll be interested to see how/if Jake can work his way back into the team. I think Cadman may have already gone past him as a pure forward and seems to offer more across the ground too.

 

[Andre the Giant]

Collingwood offer to Perryman 7 years at 850k…extraordinary money for a solid citizen. They probably think with anticipated rises in cap this will turn out cheap but jeez Louise that will just about do me. That will be band 1 compo.

 

[Giant Strides]

Collingwood offer to Perryman 7 years at 850k…extraordinary money for a solid citizen. They probably think with anticipated rises in cap this will turn out cheap but jeez Louise that will just about do me. That will be band 1 compo.

Speculation is that it might be a bit short of $ for band 1 with the cap rise. Hopefully VFL House throw us a bone with the loss of players and their magic recipe spits out round 1 compo.

But an extraordinary payday for a solid role-player but not a star.

 

[dlanod]

Speculation is that it might be a bit short of $ for band 1 with the cap rise. Hopefully VFL House throw us a bone with the loss of players and their magic recipe spits out round 1 compo.

But an extraordinary payday for a solid role-player but not a star.

Doubt they will but I absolutely am on board with the hope. Only a few picks difference though.

 

[GWS Goose]

Collingwood offer to Perryman 7 years at 850k…extraordinary money for a solid citizen. They probably think with anticipated rises in cap this will turn out cheap but jeez Louise that will just about do me. That will be band 1 compo.

If that is what it ends up, good luck to him, take the.money and run!

 

[fridgeman]

So picks at the moment
1st rd 14
2nd rd 34
3rd rd 49 + 52

Potential #15 or end of 1st for Perryman
Potential #35 for Cumming
3rd rds for Derksen/Peatling

Not sure on worth for Stone and X but hoping they stick around but if they do leave hope the club can end up with 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd and Smith with a later pick and maybe either 1 later pick or rookie pick for someone the club has wraps on either academy or a potential pick

Not sure on actual names but 2 x defenders/halfbacks, 2 x mids (1 highly rated) a ruck (Smith) then a couple of talls 1 x defender and 1 x forward

 

[Giant Pete]

So picks at the moment
1st rd 14
2nd rd 34
3rd rd 49 + 52

Potential #15 or end of 1st for Perryman
Potential #35 for Cumming
3rd rds for Derksen/Peatling

Not sure on worth for Stone and X but hoping they stick around but if they do leave hope the club can end up with 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd and Smith with a later pick and maybe either 1 later pick or rookie pick for someone the club has wraps on either academy or a potential pick

Not sure on actual names but 2 x defenders/halfbacks, 2 x mids (1 highly rated) a ruck (Smith) then a couple of talls 1 x defender and 1 x forward

I can’t recall which local kids we might draft…?

 

[Giant Strides]

I can’t recall which local kids we might draft…?

Logan Smith (ruck) - probably second to fourth round pick, depending on whether a club wants to develop a junior ruck
Josia Delana (undersized midfielder) - possibly gets through to a rookie selection, otherwise a late pick

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Pretty wild to think that if everyone goes that has been suggested it will almost be a 1/4 of our list gone. We probably haven't had this kind of turn over since our cap and list size was cut with just about no notice but unlike then no top end guys are going.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Perryman wants more midfield time, which is unlikely to occur at the Giants, and his free agency offers are audacious enough for him to almost certainly depart. Peatling, who burst to life late in the season as a midfielder, looms as a different story. GWS added a third year to their offer ahead of their heartbreaking semi-final defeat to Brisbane before Peatling and his agent, Winston Rous, met with Melbourne suitors in the past week. There is more confidence at the Giants of him staying than Perryman, whose decision appears intrinsically linked to Stone’s future. Stone was the No.15 pick out of the Oakleigh Chargers four years ago, but has only 13 games to his name and never more than five in one season.
However, Cumming’s departure, which will likely be followed by Perryman, presents a big opportunity for Stone, who performed strongly at both ends of the ground in the VFL, but looms as a half-back/winger-type in 2025.
Derksen, who has not played a senior game since being a mid-season draft selection two years ago, has requested a trade, but is contracted until the end of 2025. Melbourne, who need key position help at both ends, are the most interested in him.
O’Halloran, who has caught the Bulldogs’ eye, also has a year left on his contract, meaning the Giants do not have to, and so far, are unwilling to, trade either him or Derksen.
Nick Haynes

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Nick Haynes

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

326.8

4star

D

17.4

4star

K

13.9

5star

HB

3.5

2star

M

8.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

326.8

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

, an All-Australian four years ago and now in the twilight of his career, will exercise his unrestricted free agency rights to sign with Carlton.

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