Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[Nugett]

This is my theory to be honest. Seems a loyal type.

Think he would go back to Ireland before going to another club.

 

[Nugett]

Landsberger FMD , blokes track record is horrendous. That suggests to me straight away he's not even talking to the right people. Hasn't once mentioned Hawthorn as a potential destination for what it's worth. Should tell you all you need to know. He's decent at certain areas of reporting not this stuff.

Maybe he is waiting for his BF account not to be suspended?

 

[PLATTS44]

A stupid amount.
I'd wait until he is a free agent tbh.

This,
Lets wait a year because he will cost 2 or 3 first rounders this year.

 

[The Chad and I]

I mentioned Finn Callaghan on here a couple days ago half joking but he's someone I'd be comfortable offering big $$$ and draft capital to get across. Gun.

We were well into him as well in his draft year too.

Whatever we're gonna offer Bailey Smith, we should put towards a bid on Callahan.
If we have to top it up, that's OK too.

 

[CHUBBSS]

I would offer Tim English half a box of kfc the way his going, can’t believe the talk of a million a year

 

[daniel23]

I would offer Tim English half a box of kfc the way his going, can’t believe the talk of a million a year

He is one of the most overatted "stars" of the comp

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

He is one of the most overatted "stars" of the comp

He had some concussion issues, but perhaps the ruck rule is impacting him too.

 

[FB19]

Taylor isn’t going to leave but making them pay up is fine. If he were he will resign before free agency so we needed to make the play now. We need more early picks not less. Cmon Dillon pick purchasing it’s an easy win!

 

[Brucie Buffer]

Taylor isn’t going to leave but making them pay up is fine. If he were he will resign before free agency so we needed to make the play now. We need more early picks not less. Cmon Dillon pick purchasing it’s an easy win!

I don’t think pick purchasing is going to be the game changer some people are hyped up for.
Someone like the Gold Coast who have been a rabble, over paying kids to retain them, have been the only ones I can think of with both decent picks and salary cap issues. Maybe GWS too with their first round picks they acquire in trades every year.
Outside of that the teams with salary cap issues will be the better teams finishing higher up the ladder with picks that you wouldn’t pay a lot of money for any way.

 

[kazzooka]

I don’t think pick purchasing is going to be the game changer some people are hyped up for.
Someone like the Gold Coast who have been a rabble, over paying kids to retain them, have been the only ones I can think of with both decent picks and salary cap issues. Maybe GWS too with their first round picks they acquire in trades every year.
Outside of that the teams with salary cap issues will be the better teams finishing higher up the ladder with picks that you wouldn’t pay a lot of money for any way.

Disagree, end of the year a side will lose a prelim and want to go hard to fill that deficiency, say it's Sydney and they want josh battle as a free agent. He's already said no to us and we have a top 4 pick as it stands. We if we can add another top 20 pick for a bit of salary cap space we aren't using we'd jump at it. Doesn't need to be a super high pick but I think sides that are just out of reach will sell the farm pick wise to get cap space for another star.

We got lucky in 2012 with Lake taking unders to come to us but could have easily been outside salary cap reach for us even though trade value was low.

then imagine if we could have giving up our pick 18 in 2013 for extra cap space to keep buddy.

For our list build I think we have the perfect age and right players to gradually add through a few drafts and cheap trades along with development to push to be a top 4 side. My main concern is that when we are peaking Gold Coast and North Melbourne will be too and they've both had far more access to talent and we can't rely un them shitting the bed, they both have great coaches now too. Tasmania will come in and raid sides of talent too.

I'd say by 2027 draft and 2028 which will be the affected drafts we won't be bottom 4 we'll be expecting finals so won't be a huge impact. We would be looking at free agency and trade hard at that point. Hopefully all the talent at gold coast will cause cap pressure and we can weaken them and pick up a star through free agency. Because as it stands I'm expecting them to play and win multiple grand finals and we may have to settle for being the west coast that snagged one when Richmond choked in the prelim.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Whatever we're gonna offer Bailey Smith, we should put towards a bid on Callahan.
If we have to top it up, that's OK too.

Potentially we could draft our own version in Josh Smillie

 

[Brant]

I don’t think pick purchasing is going to be the game changer some people are hyped up for.

Outside of that the teams with salary cap issues will be the better teams finishing higher up the ladder with picks that you wouldn’t pay a lot of money for any way.

Awesome. Pay less

 

[FB19]

I don’t think pick purchasing is going to be the game changer some people are hyped up for.
Someone like the Gold Coast who have been a rabble, over paying kids to retain them, have been the only ones I can think of with both decent picks and salary cap issues. Maybe GWS too with their first round picks they acquire in trades every year.
Outside of that the teams with salary cap issues will be the better teams finishing higher up the ladder with picks that you wouldn’t pay a lot of money for any way.

It’s not about being able to buy single digit picks for the most part it’s more about exactly that. Getting teens picks to effectively upgrade seconds to firsts,
Thirds to seconds etc. they can be used to draft good players but also with multiple they can be packaged to move up. This will be especially important if the AFL do their dumb idea of forcing you to match with a pick in the same round. Clubs will look to acquire late teens picks to meet the criteria and if we have multiple we are in a strong negotiating position. There are 3 clubs this year without a first round pick for example.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Potentially we could draft our own version in Josh Smillie

Sounds awfully like Smillie will go Pick 1.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Get Smith and Macrae across from the Dogs. Helps them sign JUH and English.

Instant upgrade to our midfield for class and leadership.

Macrae with 30 at 80%, 7 tackles, 5 clearances and 11 score involvements tonight.

Hope there’s something to Dogs wanting to freshen up their midfield and make some cap space.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Sounds awfully like Smillie will go Pick 1.

There’d be a sad little enclave of posters hoping we have pick 1 I’d wager.

 

[FB19]

There’d be a sad little enclave of posters hoping we have pick 1 I’d wager.

Not me. I want Finn OSullivan so happy to take pick 2 after north take Smillie to ensure they field 21 midfielders and Larkey going forward.

 

[The Chad and I]

Potentially we could draft our own version in Josh Smillie

looks a big lumbering type rather than the fast, dynamic, versatile mid.
I've only seen one clip but didn't look to me like someone we needed to prioritise.

 

[MasterSamurai]

looks a big lumbering type rather than the fast, dynamic, versatile mid.
I've only seen one clip but didn't look to me like someone we needed to prioritise.

Wouldn't call him lumbering at all. He's just ungainly tall kid. A big brute that can extract heap of stoppage ball to release the likes of day, McKenzie Ward Newc etc.. but FOS is a good mover as well .
Hopefully keep our draft hand .

 

[theiaofseed]

I mentioned Finn Callaghan on here a couple days ago half joking but he's someone I'd be comfortable offering big $$$ and draft capital to get across. Gun.

We were well into him as well in his draft year too.

Amazing how people would throw a massive contract at Callaghan without thinking yet we have people on this forum talking about Ward as a wasted pick. This is the comparison between the two.

 

[MasterSamurai]

Amazing how people would throw a massive contract at Callaghan without thinking yet we have people on this forum talking about Ward as a wasted pick. This is the comparison between the two.

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Mate, there's nothing wrong with Ward. People just jumping at shadows. The kid's been quite good , mostly, and at 20 yrs of age, he has over a decade of football in front of him.

 

[The Chad and I]

Amazing how people would throw a massive contract at Callaghan without thinking yet we have people on this forum talking about Ward as a wasted pick. This is the comparison between the two.

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i'm an admire Ward and have consistently defended his progress.

 

[HedgeFund]

Amazing how people would throw a massive contract at Callaghan without thinking yet we have people on this forum talking about Ward as a wasted pick. This is the comparison between the two.

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The same people would be melting over us “wasting a gun pick” on getting O’Callaghan the moment he misses a handball and doesn’t get 35 touches and 3 goals in Rd 1.

 

[Brucie Buffer]

Disagree, end of the year a side will lose a prelim and want to go hard to fill that deficiency, say it's Sydney and they want josh battle as a free agent. He's already said no to us and we have a top 4 pick as it stands. We if we can add another top 20 pick for a bit of salary cap space we aren't using we'd jump at it. Doesn't need to be a super high pick but I think sides that are just out of reach will sell the farm pick wise to get cap space for another star.

We got lucky in 2012 with Lake taking unders to come to us but could have easily been outside salary cap reach for us even though trade value was low.

then imagine if we could have giving up our pick 18 in 2013 for extra cap space to keep buddy.

For our list build I think we have the perfect age and right players to gradually add through a few drafts and cheap trades along with development to push to be a top 4 side. My main concern is that when we are peaking Gold Coast and North Melbourne will be too and they've both had far more access to talent and we can't rely un them shitting the bed, they both have great coaches now too. Tasmania will come in and raid sides of talent too.

I'd say by 2027 draft and 2028 which will be the affected drafts we won't be bottom 4 we'll be expecting finals so won't be a huge impact. We would be looking at free agency and trade hard at that point. Hopefully all the talent at gold coast will cause cap pressure and we can weaken them and pick up a star through free agency. Because as it stands I'm expecting them to play and win multiple grand finals and we may have to settle for being the west coast that snagged one when Richmond choked in the prelim.

Some very good points you make.
I was more referencing the fact that a lot of people talk about it like we are going to be able to use our cap space to buy our way into the top of the draft.
The Bowes pick situation might have been the year, but that won’t happen every year.

 

[MrPremiership]

Split our first pick please