2024 Ladder Predictions

[Scritchyscroony]

Where do the Suns finish?

Just above the dogs
*Fixed

 

[tiger_tough]

You say this as though you expect Stewart and Cameron to steeply decline next season. Hawkins and Dangerfield near the bottom of the top 10 could decline a little. Smith was burnt out. Blicavs was a later starter and we get Guthrie back. Plenty in the 11-18 zone are fairly young and could be expected to bounce back to something near 2022 form.

1. 30
2. 27
3. 24
4. 25
5. 30
6. 32
7. 25
8. 33
9. 35
10. 34

8, 9 and 10 were old but the 7 above them were a pretty solid mix. Players don't all just fall off a cliff at 30 anymore.

I dont expect Jezza and Stewart to decline rapidly but somewhat. I do expect Dangerfield and Hawkins to have a far lesser impact than they have and retire at the end of the season. Durability is becoming an issue for all of them too.

 

[Mr Meow]

I dont expect Jezza and Stewart to decline rapidly but somewhat. I do expect Dangerfield and Hawkins to have a far lesser impact than they have and retire at the end of the season. Durability is becoming an issue for all of them too.

Our 30 year olds tend to tick over pretty nicely. At 32-33 you have a point - although Hawkins averages refuse to fall even now.

We had a historically bad injury run this season despite having a younger best 22 than 2022, where we had a good ride overall. That sort of thing will fluctuate - it isn't a linear process. A domino effect once we had 5 or 6 best 22 missing hurt the durability of the veterans overall. We were missing 6 or more best 22 around 50% of the time this season. If that happens again I'll accept age has something to do with it - but J.Henry, Close, Stengle, Holmes, O.Henry, SDK, Ratugolea, O'Connor etc incurred them too. Dangerfield and Cameron played through structural damage injuries, not soft tissue.

Anyway we'll see. I'd be surprised if the decline sets in to a degree that overrides simple mean reversion in luck. So many 21-28 year olds can return to their 2022 form for starters.

 

[Pistol Night]

Our 30 year olds tend to tick over pretty nicely. At 32-33 you have a point - although Hawkins averages refuse to fall even now.

We had a historically bad injury run this season despite having a younger best 22 than 2022, where we had a good ride overall. That sort of thing will fluctuate - it isn't a linear process. A domino effect once we had 5 or 6 best 22 missing hurt the durability of the veterans overall. We were missing 6 or more best 22 around 50% of the time this season. If that happens again I'll accept age has something to do with it - but J.Henry, Close, Stengle, Holmes, O.Henry, SDK, Ratugolea, O'Connor etc incurred them too. Dangerfield and Cameron played through structural damage injuries, not soft tissue.

Anyway we'll see. I'd be surprised if the decline sets in to a degree that overrides simple mean reversion in luck. So many 21-28 year olds can return to their 2022 form for starters.

You could roll Hawkins out in a wheelchair at 73 and he'd kick 4 against us

 

[Mr Meow]

You could roll Hawkins out in a wheelchair at 73 and he'd kick 4 against us

Likewise Pendlebury controlling the game against us.

 

[HBFlanker]

You’re about to lose your only key defender, all the high picks in the world aren’t going to make you improve drastically next year. And west coasts list is a steaming pile of turd that’s a couple of years off becoming decent. If we finish below you two I’d be extremely worried

Yeah no doubt both of those clubs have issues. I dont think hawthrons key position stocks are great either. Just my opinion, but im not buying into Hawthorn just yet.

 

[OniAu]

Hawks won't lose a game
Pies to back up the flag with the spoon

 

[no. 4]

May change marginally come the end of all the list changes but at the moment I would go with:
1. Brisbane Lions
2. Collingwood
3. Carlton
4. GWS
5. Melbourne
6. Sydney
7. Port Adelaide
8. Adelaide

9. Gold Coast
10. Fremantle
11. Western Bulldogs
12. St Kilda
13. Hawthorn
14. Geelong
15. Richmond
16. Essendon
17. North Melbourne
18. West Coast Eagles

 

[Burtman]

Yeah no doubt both of those clubs have issues. I dont think hawthrons key position stocks are great either. Just my opinion, but im not buying into Hawthorn just yet.

Not saying we will shoot up the ladder, but can’t see us falling away so badly to finish below north or west coast

 

[TheKanga]

1. GWS
2. Collingwood
3. Brisbane
4. Carlton
5. Sydney
6. Melbourne
7. Adelaide
8. Fremantle
9. Essendon
10. Port Adelaide
11. Western Bulldogs
12. Hawthorn
13. North Melbourne
14. Gold Coast
15. Geelong
16. St Kilda
17. Richmond
18. West Coast

 

[jackster83]

1. Brisbane
2. GWS
3. Collingwood
4. Carlton
5. Sydney
6. Melbourne
7. Port
8. Geelong
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9. Essendon
10. Adelaide
11. Fremantle
12. St Kilda
13. Gold Coast
14. Hawthorn
15. Bulldogs
16. Richmond
17. North Melbourne
18. West Coast

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Very quick, to revisit after the trade period

Carlton
Collingwood
Port Adelaide
Brisbane
Western Bulldogs
Greater Western Sydney
---- down to here SHOULD all make finals
Adelaide
Melbourne

Fremantle
---- down to here could make top four
St Kilda
Gold Coast
Sydney
Essendon
Geelong
Hawthorn
Richmond
--- down to here could play finals ---
West Coast
--- down to here should win a match ---
North Melbourne


post-trade edit:
I like what Essendon and Hawthorn did in the trade period, at least for the short term bump. Tempted to move the Hawks up a spot or two.

 

[BuffDog]

1. Carlton (P) 20-3
2. Brisbane 19-4
3. Collingwood 17-6
4. GWS 16-7
5. Port Adelaide 15-8
6. Melbourne 15-8
7. Sydney 14-9
8. Western Bulldogs 13-10

9. Adelaide 13-10
10. Gold Coast 12-11
11. Geelong 12-11
12. Fremantle 11-12
13. St Kilda 10-13
14. Hawthorn 9-14
15. Richmond 8-15
16. North Melbourne 6-17
17. West Coast 5-18
18. Essendon 1-22

* subject to much change

 

[Angus Young]

yeah subject to change after trade period and the draw comes out and even after each round after that, but someone will already have this bang on.

 

[Worm4]

1. Carlton (P) 20-3
2. Brisbane 19-4
3. Collingwood 17-6
4. GWS 16-7
5. Port Adelaide 15-8
6. Melbourne 15-8
7. Sydney 14-9
8. Western Bulldogs 13-10

9. Adelaide 13-10
10. Gold Coast 12-11
11. Geelong 12-11
12. Fremantle 11-12
13. St Kilda 10-13
14. Hawthorn 9-14
15. Richmond 8-15
16. North Melbourne 6-17
17. West Coast 5-18
18. Essendon 1-22

* subject to much change

He who have no faith !
I expect bombers to the close to being finalists in 2024.
Even the most one eyed carlton fan wouldn't have them finishing on top either they are still a work in progress and still learning new game plans from Voss.
Anywhere from 3-8 for my blues is probably fairer indication.
West Coast- certain wooden spooners

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Think there will be some strife at several Clubs.

I have started just with the bottom four.

15. Footscray- another underperforming year. Bevo will probably go.
16. Eagles - a healthier list will help.
17. Hawks - desperately need KPPs.
18. NMFC - No KPD and loss of Goldy will hurt. Back for extra support in 2024.

 

[PCORF]

1. Carlton
2. Collingwood
3. Brisbane
4. Melbourne
5. Sydney Swans
6. Geelong
7. Western Bulldogs
8. GWS

9. Fremantle
10. Port
11. Adelaide
12. St Kilda
13. Essendon
14. Hawthorn
15. Gold Coast
16. Richmond
17. North
18. West Coast

 

[CasuallyDressed]

1. Lions
2. Blues
3. Pies
4. Giants
5. Crows
6. Swans
7. Doggies
8. Power

9. Suns
10. Dockers
11. Saints
12. Hawks
13. Tigers
14. Cats (I forgot about Geelong but cbf re=jigging the ladder but they'll be higher than this)
15. Bombers
16. Norf
17. Eagles
18. Choking loser Demons.

- Home and away predictions.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Actually the Hawks could be the bolter in 2024. Really impressed me last season. Great wins over us, Brisbane and a couple others.

 

[The hands of stone]

Cant see much change to this season apart from us making the top 4

 

[Crusty Demon]

1. Lions
2. Blues
3. Pies
4. Giants
5. Crows
6. Swans
7. Doggies
8. Power

9. Suns
10. Dockers
11. Saints
12. Hawks
13. Tigers
14. Cats (I forgot about Geelong but cbf re=jigging the ladder but they'll be higher than this)
15. Bombers
16. Norf
17. Eagles
18. Choking loser Demons.

- Home and away predictions.

Oooh, someone got triggered by May's comments last night! This is hilarious

 

[Rohan25]

Oooh, someone got triggered by May's comments last night! This is hilarious

What did he say?

 

[Wolfgang West]

Brisbane
Collingwood
GWS
Western Bulldogs
Sydney
Adelaide
Melbourne
Port
Carlton
Gold coast
Geelong
Essendon
Saints
Richmond
Freo
North
West Coast

First coach to go - Longmire

brownlow - bont

Premiers -:GWS

So Swans are finishing 5th and Longmire first coach to go ? Yep way to bolster your take right there.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

So Swans are finishing 5th and Longmire first coach to go ? Yep way to bolster your take right there.

Probably means Longmuir

 

[Wolfgang West]

Probably means Longmuir

Yep My Bad.