List Mgmt. 2024 List Management 📃

[Stamos]

Haynes will be on a reported heavily back-ended deal worth north of 1mil next year...

You're a year out of date.
He's an Unrestricted Free Agent come October.

 

[BRADLESTICKS]

Big difference between downgrade and not up to it

I could make the same argument for every side in the competitions back up key when injuries hit Brisbane Joyce, Swans Francis, Dogs Keath, Pies Frampton, Power Ratagolea (forced to play forward he was that bad), Demons Tomlinson the list goes on, I don’t rate Young highly but he is in a similar bracket to all these players no side in the comp maybe apart from the giants has ready genuine quality back up key defenders ready to step up.

 

[Pablito]

You're a year out of date.
He's an Unrestricted Free Agent come October.

Ah yep, my statement doesn't make sense. How can he be a FA and have a contract for next year for a mil.

I need to lay down.

 

[BRADLESTICKS]

Liam Jones & Lobb? I guess Jones has good closing speed.

They are the closest and it has really transformed the dogs side but as you said Jones closing speed is absolutely elite.

 

[Soapy V]

I could make the same argument for every side in the competitions back up key when injuries hit Brisbane Joyce, Swans Francis, Dogs Keath, Pies Frampton, Power Ratagolea (forced to play forward he was that bad), Demons Tomlinson the list goes on, I don’t rate Young highly but he is in a similar bracket to all these players no side in the comp maybe apart from the giants has ready genuine quality back up key defenders ready to step up.

So we shouldn't try then?

 

[Soapy V]

They are the closest and it has really transformed the dogs side but as you said Jones closing speed is absolutely elite.

so having two does work?

 

[Arr0w]

Maybe we need to get creative if we can't land a viable KPD, perhaps other UFAs

Could E Himmelberg or Jeka play KPD

Personally, I'd prefer these guys in order, Edwards, Howard, both OOC

Available end of 2025, could we get them a year earlier

Murray, Balta

 

[BRADLESTICKS]

so having two does work?

It’s one side and as I said it only works if one of the key defenders is an elite athlete or has elite closing speed, Liam Jones has genuine speed probably the quickest key defender in the competition over 20 meters.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

If we can get Haynes on a low contract as a FA, we can still trade in another player with future draft capital. I wouldn't mind if we put up our future 1st if we could get a quality younger player, with some change coming back our way.

Here's my current wishlist for this year - which hopefully isn't outrageous.

FA - Nick Haynes

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Nick Haynes

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

326.8

4star

D

17.4

4star

K

13.9

5star

HB

3.5

2star

M

8.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

326.8

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

Trade - Konstanty/Stone/Rosas
1st round - Joe Berry
F/S - Ben Campo
3rd round - Charlie McCartin

Rookie - Lucas Campo (F/S)
Rookie - Liam McMahon

Also rookie list Christian Mardini if there are any list spots remaining.

 

[Soapy V]

It’s one side and as I said it only works if one of the key defenders is an elite athlete or has elite closing speed, Liam Jones has genuine speed probably the quickest key defender in the competition over 20 meters.

So it can work?

 

[BRADLESTICKS]

So it can work?

Try and find another 196cm plus key defender available to play alongside Weitering who while a gun is the slowest key defender in the competition, my original point still stands no side plays two 196cm plus key defenders in modern football without one having elite speed. Haynes at 194cm and agile is a much better option and suits modern football.

On a side note let’s wait and see how lobb handles finals pressure at chb so far it’s been 6 weeks and he’s been good but I’m not 100% convinced on him.

 

[sweethoney]

Has the Darren Burgess name come from somewhere reliable?

I heard it on 7 news last night in the sports report. Only place I’ve heard it

 

[Soapy V]

Try and find another 196cm plus key defender available to play alongside Weitering who while a gun is the slowest key defender in the competition, my original point still stands no side plays two 196cm plus key defenders in modern football without one having elite speed. Haynes at 194cm and agile is a much better option and suits modern football.

On a side note let’s wait and see how lobb handles finals pressure at chb so far it’s been 6 weeks and he’s been good but I’m not 100% convinced on him.

We are also talking about a List not best 22. You need at least 2 decent KPDs on a List

 

[ray8182]

What’s the story with lachie okeefe at gws. Could he be a mature key defender option.

I don’t know what standard he was playing when he got pushed out of gws team but l would imagine he might be available. Is he an upgrade on L. Young. Is he worth looking at?


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[4flagsin5yrs]

What’s the story with lachie okeefe at gws. Could he be a mature key defender option.

I don’t know what standard he was playing when he got pushed out of gws team but l would imagine he might be available. Is he an upgrade on Lewis young. Is he worth looking at?


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must be pushing 40?

 

[Opium]

I still don't understand why we're not targeting Harry Edwards. 200cm key defender and only 23 years old also out of contract.

 

[Blue__Balls]

I still don't understand why we're not targeting Harry Edwards. 200cm key defender and only 23 years old also out of contract.

I still don't understand why people think we here have any genuine idea who the club is actually targeting.

 

[DangerousD]

Haynes will be on a reported heavily back-ended deal worth north of 1mil next year...

I'd hope instead of getting him as FA, GWS actually pay us with a later pick to take on that contract.

Now you’re talking.

 

[gbatman]

Without a doubt, the tall defender we bring in needs to have pace and be a good two way runner and intercept mark. We need a CHB. Not a fullback which Weitering is. If they have good height that is a bonus. If their running capacity is not all that great, then our team defence and midfield pressure needs to be really good which it isn't.

 

[Opium]

I still don't understand why people think we here have any genuine idea who the club is actually targeting.

Because we're targeting a player that's turning 33 next season

 

[DangerousD]

Maybe we need to get creative if we can't land a viable KPD, perhaps other UFAs

Could E Himmelberg or Jeka play KPD

Personally, I'd prefer these guys in order, Edwards, Howard, both OOC

Available end of 2025, could we get them a year earlier

Murray, Balta

What about Collins or Ballard? Both FA next year, regardless of names i hope we are pushing hard at a quality target

 

[Arr0w]

Hayes is an UFA, at his age, wouldn't be chasing coin, moreso opportunities and or success

 

[Arr0w]

What about Collins or Ballard? Both FA next year, regardless of names i hope we are pushing hard at a quality target

Either would be great

 

[gbatman]

Is he even a KPP, I would have thought he is a good swingman who can play as a 3rd tall forward but not as your main KPP.

Similar to our own number 1

He's tall enough. In our backline he would play CHB which athletically he has the profile for. Weitering is the full back, he takes the bigger stronger forwards who generally play closer to home.

Swingman is a sign someone is a quality player. Stephen Silvagni was a swingman.

I don't know what his defensive skills are like. First glance he is of interest that is for sure. Age is on the money.

Is he a better key defender than Lewis Young?

 

[Arr0w]

I still don't understand why people think we here have any genuine idea who the club is actually targeting.

They would be sounding out plenty of players, most of which probably have hardly been mentioned here