List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[martinson]

I like Lloyd too. Think his versatility makes him an asset. That said, Morris is the exception to the rule. I don't think we could carry a forward line of Hipwood, Morris & Lloyd as our keys.

All things going well, really hope we get some handy insurance who can't get a game because Smith has well and truly arrived as a ruck who can create a contest up forward. His tap work would be very handy.

I'm all in on Smith.

Only concern for me is whether he's 18 months-2 years away from having real impact.

 

[SizeMatters]

We need someone to chop out in the ruck. Why I think Gardiner isn't the answer or anyone on the list outside of Fort/Smith.

I think Smith might be the guy but then I'm afraid his age and lack of experience will hurt us big time.

It really could be as simple as one of Fort or Smith.

I'm not particularly excited about that prospect for 2025.

 

[martinson]

Needs a big pre season IMO. Injury hurt his pre season and given he was a guy who is so new to AFL level footy, was the kind of setback he couldn't really afford. I haven't written him off yet, but he is certainly not my first or second choice.

I've got no doubt he's better than what we've seen . Whether that's ever good enough is hard to say. We whipped him off at half time in his only opportunity so here wasn't a lot of confidence from the camp.

 

[jfn]

Still have a few guys we haven't committed to yet in Prior and Craven. Add a possible trade of Dev and/or Sharp. There are ways to make it work I think. Could see us take 6-7 picks to the draft if we get creative.

I think the creativity may be in the form of a couple of project talls, either rucks or key positions. Pretty flushed with mids.

 

[Lace Out]

So we trade pick 20 to Richmond and then they promptly bid on Levi ?

 

[Tom14]

So we trade pick 20 to Richmond and then they promptly bid on Levi ?

Don't think they will. But if they do then whatever, we can't stop them - if they offer the best deal for pick 20 then its no different.

 

[Brizzys Squizzy]

So we trade pick 20 to Richmond and then they promptly bid on Levi ?

And then we only pay 2400 pts not 3000.
So that 600 pts plus mid draft picks we get for pick 20 will go along way to securing both ashcroft & Marshall.

 

[Elixuh]

So we trade pick 20 to Richmond and then they promptly bid on Levi ?

I'd be interested to see a club bid on a fs or academy player at 1 and stiff their guy on all that comes with being the no.1 pick + the PR boost for the club. I can't see a club like the Tigers giving that up.

 

[Lionwest]

I'd be interested to see a club bid on a fs or academy player at 1 and stiff their guy on all that comes with being the no.1 pick + the PR boost for the club. I can't see a club like the Tigers giving that up.

I’d say North would be very short odds to bid on Levi.

 

[Gadzorks]

He should go down back. Lester might drop off with less motivation and getting older and he’d be first in if Payne got injured.

Has a long way to go to go from teams almost not sending a defender to him to providing any sort of marking target

Lester has never lacked motivation or needed the carrot of a premiership to give it his all. Even when he expected to be desisted.

Never underestimate the Lester. He'll still be a great in 5 years.

 

[Gadzorks]

Not saying I expect him to be the guy, but wouldn't surprise me if the club gives him the first crack. Hipwood could do the second rucking.

Don't think we would go one tall then risk them as ruck. Would leave the forward line very exposed.

I wonder if the two ruck trial was in response to Joe saying he was going to retire.

 

[Brett C]

Rayner moved closer to goals. (edit: he's almost the size of Lynch....only 2" height difference)

Levi straight into HFF/midfield rotation.

Zorko off i/c to play HFF.

Kiddy back to HB.

Done.

#Believe

There is a 5 inch difference between the 2.

Lynch is 199vm and rayners 186cm.

Not comparable in height at all

 

[twhowler]

There is a 5 inch difference between the 2.

Lynch is 199vm and rayners 186cm.

Not comparable in height at all

Lynch 194cm. And i’d say that is accurate having met him in person, i’m 190 and he was barely taller. He might have shrunk!

That said - i also agree with you that there is a big gap between their heights in a relative sense. Lynch was drafted in 1986, Rayner 2017. Key position height definitely taller 30 years on.

 

[Tom14]

Lynch 194cm. And i’d say that is accurate having met him in person, i’m 190 and he was barely taller. He might have shrunk!

That said - i also agree with you that there is a big gap between their heights in a relative sense. Lynch was drafted in 1986, Rayner 2017. Key position height definitely taller 30 years on.

Talking about Tom Lynch right? He's 199cm.

 

[McIvor]

I’d say North would be very short odds to bid on Levi.

Yet they were too chicken shit to do it to Collingwood and bid on Daicos. I’ve no doubt they’ll bid on Levi and it’ll underlie what simps they are to clubs Collingwood.

 

[briztoon]

I'm not right up on the drafting rules but if we were to go to the draft with those 5 selections doesn't that mean we have to have 5 list spots available?

Are we not better off doing draft night banking of picks?

On the other hand maybe we are open to taking 5 in the draft if it is at all possible eg. Ashcroft, Marshall, Gallop, Gillett and Gilder.

No. Clubs just need to select 3 players in the draft. Those 5 selections in the draft will help us match bids for Ashcroft/Marshall

That's not quite what M Malice was asking.

The AFL has several rules about how many picks clubs can take to the draft.

One rule is, that teams can only take the same number of picks to the draft as they have vacant senior list spots.

So if we were to take 5 picks to the draft, we would need to have 5 spots available.

Also, if we're going to ask/expect another team to carry picks in to the draft for us, that team also has to have enough senior list spots as well.

Not sure if Richmond will have 10 senior list spots to take their top 5 picks to the draft, as well as 5 later picks to then trade to us.

Currently we have 4 senior list available, plus a 5th we we don't re-sign Prior. And 1 rookie list spot available. We also have Beecken and Craven as un-signed rookies.

Pick 32 will also hold some value on draft night. I expect one or two teams will want to trade up for it. Something like Melbourne trading 40 and 49 for it, giving us an extra 127 points

 

[Tom14]

That's not quite what M Malice was asking.

The AFL has several rules about how many picks clubs can take to the draft.

One rule is, that teams can only take the same number of picks to the draft as they have vacant senior list spots.

So if we were to take 5 picks to the draft, we would need to have 5 spots available.

Also, if we're going to ask/expect another team to carry picks in to the draft for us, that team also has to have enough senior list spots as well.

Not sure if Richmond will have 10 senior list spots to take their top 5 picks to the draft, as well as 5 later picks to then trade to us.

Currently we have 4 senior list available, plus a 5th we we don't re-sign Prior. And 1 rookie list spot available. We also have Beecken and Craven as un-signed rookies.

Pick 32 will also hold some value on draft night. I expect one or two teams will want to trade up for it. Something like Melbourne trading 40 and 49 for it, giving us an extra 127 points

This is why I'd be stunned if Richmond don't trade all their later picks to us. If they end up with say 7-8 picks inside 25, there's minimal chance they will have the list spots to use picks in the thirties and forties so they'll lose them anyway.

Just makes too much sense to do that trade before the draft, and then if we need more points we do a draft night trade with someone else.

 

[SeaOfFire]

Talking about Tom Lynch right? He's 199cm.

My OP was referring to Alistair Lynch, not Tom Lynch

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

I think Marcus Adams

24

Marcus Adams

Age

31

Ht

192cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

5.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

240.5

4star

D

5.0

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

57.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

6.8

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

235.8

4star

is good to go now.

 

[dlanod]

I'd be interested to see a club bid on a fs or academy player at 1 and stiff their guy on all that comes with being the no.1 pick + the PR boost for the club. I can't see a club like the Tigers giving that up.

2020 AFL draft - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[McIvor]

Question; what happens if an out of contract player such as Prior goes untraded and despite having a contract in front of him by Brisbane still wants to move and doesn’t sign? Does he automatically become a delisted free agent or has to go to the PSD to be picked up.

Just curious the likelihood of the outcome for Jaxon and how it benefits both club and player.

 

[RS25]

I think Marcus Adams is good to go now.

I thought he was medically retired

 

[RS25]

Question; what happens if an out of contract player such as Prior goes untraded and despite having a contract in front of him by Brisbane still wants to move and doesn’t sign? Does he automatically become a delisted free agent or has to go to the PSD to be picked up.

Just curious the likelihood of the outcome for Jaxon and how it benefits both club and player.

Pre season draft I believe… or can nominate for the national draft

 

[M Malice]

My OP was referring to Alistair Lynch, not Ton Lynch

It could also have been confusion re Tom Lynch the x Crows player who was 192cm.

 

[spotthedog1]

AFL standard Key Forwards on our list:
Hipwood
Morris

AFL standard Key Backs on our list:
Andrews
Payne
Lester
Doedee
Gardiner

Only counting players ready to go next year. Given that imbalance, I think someone on that Key Back list will be pre-season training with the other group.