List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Lazza16]

When can we confidently claim we won the draft?

When you stop wiggling so I can concentrate.

 

[cotter101]

Great result.

Will is great pick. Beecken loves a run and has the endurance to match.

Craven I don’t know much about but looks to have talent.

 

[martinson]

So the VFL coaches have some work to do. If McLachlan wants to get a game in the seniors he will have to work on being less accurate in front of goal, and Craven will have to learn how to stop fully committing to tackles.

Commit to the game plan or get out!

I think these guys are both set because there's only one thing they can't do whereas some of our guys can't kick for goal or tackle.

 

[SizeMatters]

McLachlan looks a good one. Top 25 if the ND was held today I reckon. He looks the type that could play Rayners role which is definitely a good thing on multiple fronts.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

That wasn’t their AFL reserves team it was in the reserves competition

Whoops. Still a good game though.

 

[jfn]

Mid season draft is always hit or miss. These three look ok and worth a chance. McLachlan could get a run in the misfiring forward line this year.

I’m surprised they didn’t use their 4th pick for either Hately or Casey Voss. Both more than good insurance.

Plenty of quality mid sizes coming through with Levi and Marshall next year and Annable and Geesu the following year.
I think Lyons, Madden, Prior, Carter and Joyce need to be moved on. Question mark still on Berry’s future.
Talls are needed. Ryan looked worse than ordinary last week. Joe and Oscar won’t be there forever.
Hopefully they can poach a couple of early to mid twenties talls in the next few years.

 

[martinson]

Mid season draft is always hit or miss. These three look ok and worth a chance. McLachlan could get a run in the misfiring forward line this year.

I’m surprised they didn’t use their 4th pick for either Hately or Casey Voss. Both more than good insurance.

Plenty of quality mid sizes coming through with Levi and Marshall next year and Annable and Geesu the following year.
I think Lyons, Madden, Prior, Carter and Joyce need to be moved on. Question mark still on Berry’s future.
Talls are needed. Ryan looked worse than ordinary last week. Joe and Oscar won’t be there forever.
Hopefully they can poach a couple of early to mid twenties talls in the next few years.

I thought Ryan showed a bit of promise last year but he was just so far off the pace on Sunday he doesn't seem to have come on at all. I know he's had an interrupted prep but still...

McLachlan at least seems to have a lot more toe.

 

[McIvor]

I thought Ryan showed a bit of promise last year but he was just so far off the pace on Sunday he doesn't seem to have come on at all. I know he's had an interrupted prep but still...

McLachlan at least seems to have a lot more toe.

Was Ryan signed for 2 or 3 years; doesn’t seem conclusive. Hoping it wasn’t 3.

 

[briztoon]

Was Ryan signed for 2 or 3 years; doesn’t seem conclusive. Hoping it wasn’t 3.

3.

 

[martinson]

3.

Oh dear.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

The profile of our selections indicates we may have a longer term view of their inclusion on the list. The squeeze for places come end of year will be well and truly squeezeee.

I think Lyons, Lane, Prior, Madden and Joyce are all gone at minimum. Michael must be on the borderline.

 

[McIvor]

3.

Ouch; can he be demoted to the rookie list or once you’re on the main list you can only be downgraded once you come out of contract and are re-contracted like Froggy Lester?

 

[briztoon]

Ouch; can he be demoted to the rookie list

Yes.

or once you’re on the main list you can only be downgraded once you come out of contract and are re-contracted like Froggy Lester?

Nope.

 

[martinson]

Ouch; can he be demoted to the rookie list or once you’re on the main list you can only be downgraded once you come out of contract and are re-contracted like Froggy Lester?

Well let's not jump the gun on him too soon but not looking flash right now.

It's understandable we didn't think Morris would be playing Senior footy so soon let alone look like he might be able to stay there.

 

[rye]

excited to see what these guys can show in the magoos, absolutely laughing if any of them debut or even better manage to entrench themselves in the 22.

the reason why we're taking 3 MSD picks obviously sucks but id rather see what we can find than persist with ngmi types in madden and prior.

not sure id be delisting joyce at the end of this year. pending ZZ's development he is servicable KPD depth. lester could retire, gardiner is made of glass and doedee isnt much more durable really.... joyce is a handy type to have on the list.

 

[briztoon]

Having a read of the Crows MSD tread.

Brisbane snuck in on us LOL

Godamnit Brisbane

There you go..someone said a few days ago, imagine if we lose out on a player we want to Brisbane all for scoring an extra goal v west coast to push us just above them on %. Luke Beecken to Brisbane who we have been keen on..fcu kk

So there went our player

Incipid club once again shoots itself in the foot…

“Yah, we smashed those west coast witches hats”.. and stuffed our midseason draft position losing out on a player we wanted in the process.

What an achievement.

And then the arguing about tanking for the MSD starts and whether Beecken was their guy at their second pick.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Yep, the whining about losing players from the lower levels in nonsensical, what do they want... to ban the players from trying to progress up the levels. LOL!

The issue is more when they depart in the middle of a season rather than at the end of a season.

 

[McIvor]

Having a read of the Crows MSD tread.

















And then the arguing about tanking for the MSD starts and whether Beecken was their guy at their second pick.

I’m sure if the Crows really wanted Beeken they’d have taken him with there first pick unless they were absolutely certain that their first pick, Murray, wouldn’t have slipped to their second pick but given they passed on that pick it could be a long bow to suggest they’d have taken Beeken anyway.

 

[Elixuh]

The Richmond board has an 85 page thread dedicated to the MSD. Pages of pure anger re their perception that the club bungled their picks lol. That thread needs to be studied for science.

 

[McIvor]

Mitch Cleary on Talking Footy said the Hugh McCluggage

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Hugh Mccluggage

Age

26

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.3

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

D

19.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.0

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

re-signing has “taken a turn” for the positive. He said we’re re-signing him on a 7 year x $1M per season deal.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Mitch Cleary on Talking Footy said the Hugh McCluggage re-signing has “taken a turn” for the positive. He said we’re re-signing him on a 7 year x $1M per season deal.

That’s a lot of money if I must say so, exclusive vision live from him and his agent as we speak:

 

[briztoon]

I’m sure if the Crows really wanted Beeken they’d have taken him with there first pick unless they were absolutely certain that their first pick, Murray, wouldn’t have slipped to their second pick but given they passed on that pick it could be a long bow to suggest they’d have taken Beeken anyway.

Adelaide (the actual club) posted a video on their site interviewing their recruiting manager, about the MSD. They hoped to take two players in the MSD, weren't going to take 3. But we were only going to pick players from their MSD board (supposedly had 10 players on it).

Lot of speculation on their board that Murray was always their first priority, considering they brought him down form Vic to play in the SANFL side.

 

[HereIGoAgain]

Better for all concerned that Hugh get on with signing the contract. I suspect we'll see a different player out there once he does.

 

[McIvor]

That’s a lot of money if I must say so, exclusive vision live from him and his agent as we speak:

The seven years is what raised my eyebrows not necessarily the money which I still think is high for what his output is which I guess needs to be tempered by what other clubs would have offered him to get him out of the Lions.

 

[davemc_lions]

I think Lyons, Lane, Prior, Madden and Joyce are all gone at minimum. Michael must be on the borderline.

You assume Dev asks to go home as well. Not had the year he wanted getting injured while Ashcroft out.
Then you wonder if guys like Sharp and Tunstill might ask if another team interested. With two Ashcrofts and Marshall probably coming in.
Lester get another year with Doedee/Dizzy knees.
Zorko interesting one. Who knows he want to keep going

Then do we trade Ryan back for Gunston again