List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[M Malice]

Here’s what he was doing in the reserves this year- 20 goals from 8 matches is ok, with multiple goals in his last 6 matches. It’s just whether he can replicate that in the firsts if we need him too.


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I love the look of this stat >

GOALS.BEHINDS 20.4

 

[briztoon]

And by upgrade, we'd have to take them in the draft - not just the standard no risk upgrade, otherwise we don't get the benefit of live picks. Traditional rookie upgrades cancel out the picks prior to the draft itself.

I'm not so sure about this. I believe it may have changed.

 

[JasRulz63]

If Prior goes, and then we delist two rookies (say Craven and Lester), that opens up 6 picks in the national draft for all our points (we'll have 32 senior list, 4 cat A and 2 cat B rookies). Assuming we re-draft those two, leaves us four spots left for Ashcroft, Marshall, ?? and Day.

 

[M Malice]

At the start, of course. I think we should have won it last year as well, haha. But winning back to back is hard enough as it is. Thats why it's a rare feat. Doing it on top of losing one of our most important players makes it even harder. I think winning the premiership next season would be even more impressive than this season if we were lucky enough to do it because the degree of difficulty would be greater.

I get what you mean(over a whole season) BUT it would be pretty difficult to be greater than coming back from this to win a flag >


Plus we were 13th pretty late in the season.

 

[McIvor]

If Prior goes, and then we delist two rookies (say Craven and Lester), that opens up 6 picks in the national draft for all our points (we'll have 32 senior list, 4 cat A and 2 cat B rookies). Assuming we re-draft those two, leaves us four spots left for Ashcroft, Marshall, ?? and Day.

The ?? Is for Gallop

 

[pod17]

Good to see we learnt from the Fev decision and avoided the fire sale on Stringer despite needing a forward.

I am not convinced re Day, even as backup given his body has not stood up. That said, with all respect I am not so sure how good the conditioning staff at the Gold Coast are given that so many of their players have struggled to get on the park, only to leave and remain relatively injury free elsewhere.

However, whilst Day might be a little more durable under our regime, I would still prefer someone with a stronger track record of getting on the park. Like others, with not much time to source a decent Joe replacement, I could see us restructuring our forward set up. Linc might yet feature more than many of us thought he would after the emergence of Kai.

 

[Perrip]

I'm not so sure about this. I believe it may have changed.

Is this the specific rule they're referencing?

AFL Rules - pg. 62

10.11 Inclusion of Rookie List Player onto Primary List
(a) Primary List
A Club may apply to the AFL to transfer a Player or Players from its Rookie List onto its Primary Listi) on the day when its Primary List is lodged with the AFL prior to theNational Draft Selection Meeting under Rule 6.1 by lodging with the AFL the form prescribed in Schedule 1 as Form 33. In which case, the Club shall forfeit its last selection or, if more than one player, its last and each previous draft selection at the National AFL Draft Selection meeting.

 

[bungalow_bill]

To be honest, i'm not expecting us to win the premiership next season. I think the loss of Joe will cause a huge structural change that will take some time to adapt. There is no one on our list that is capable of anything close to what he does, so I think if we play the same way we did this season, we will be a touch behind the better sides. And if we decide to change our structure because we can't replace him, it will likely have some teething issues that will probably cost us a few games. Honestly, i'm not worried about the next season. Because even if we don't win the prem, it won't sting as much considering we won it this season. And the future of our squad and our club has never looked healthier. So much to be positive about right now. I also hope everyone backs fages next season. Despite if we win every game or if we don't. He's been through so much and he deserves our support until he decides to retire himself.

Hawks lost Franklin and went on to win 3 straight flags.

 

[Gadzorks]

Hawks lost Franklin and went on to win 3 straight flags.

And now that fagan has figured out a plan b ....

Our team and play evolved this year and it will again next year. The players went up a level in finals, and while they won't always play at that level they will back themselves to get to that level again when needed.

They got this.

 

[Tom14]

Hawks lost Franklin and went on to win 3 straight flags.

2* - buddy played in the first of the three-peat. But they deliberately changed their game plan that year to be less buddy-centric.

 

[Gadzorks]

2* - buddy played in the first of the three-peat. But they deliberately changed their game plan that year to be less buddy-centric.

That was when fagan was at the hawks right?

 

[Tom14]

That was when fagan was at the hawks right?

Yeah - he was there for all their flags I think.

 

[McIvor]

Hawks lost Franklin and went on to win 3 straight flags.

Different type of player but same with Geelong winning a flag the following year when GAJ left and people thought the Cats would be screwed without him.

 

[briztoon]

WC board reckon we were asking for a second round pick for Dev.