List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[braddsey]

Off field and culture issues aside any chance we end up like Melbourne after they won the flag?

They haven't got back there because of a lack of a key forward. The off field issues aside we are not to different:

• strong defence
• strong midfield
• forwards:

Pickett - Cameron
Fritsch - Lohman
Neal bullen/Melscham - Ah Chee
McDonald - Hipwood
Luke Jackson - Smith/Fort

They had brown and McDonald and Jackson none of them outstanding on their own but the sum of the parts where more then the individual. Not too dissimilar to our key forwards take brown and replace him with a younger player they fall away take out Jo and replace him with a younger player....

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What about Rayner and Bailey

• Morris (admittedly 2nd year, but can take a grab, kick a goal, and good use)
• Linc (coming off an ACL)

 

[T Rick]

Fogarty has signed on with the Crows until 2031 apparently.

 

[Nunez]

Blessing in disguise - fitting both he and Darcy into our team would have been challenging.

 

[Elixuh]

Fogarty has signed on with the Crows until 2031 apparently.

We could have given you everything fog, everything.

 

[wantok]

Problem is he's predominantly a ruck and what we need is a forward who can relief ruck.

I think you just described Henry Smith.



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[Johnny Bananas]

wantok I'd describe Smith as a ruck who can play forward. I have no problem giving him first crack at replacing Joe, but I figure once Big O retires, Smith will become our #1 ruck unless he's spectacular up forward.

 

[Saucery]

I must admit I do find it laughable that after so many years of the medja telling us that 'Flaky Joe' would never win us a flag to now 'we can't replace him' that they think our whole future rests on one player, one position. No Joe no Lions? No way. The kids are all right.

 

[Saucery]

Thomas Scully delisted, worth a rookie spot? 19yo 203cm forward?

 

[bungalow_bill]

Thomas Scully delisted, worth a rookie spot? 19yo 203cm forward?

Did Port Adelaide make the right call delisting teenage key forward while keeping Travis Boak?

“I was a little bit surprised because he at different stages showed a little bit at SANFL level.”

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[Section 5]

Thomas Scully delisted, worth a rookie spot? 19yo 203cm forward?

Somewhere maybe but not the Lions this year

 

[Maverick]

The talk of the town has been that we had a key forward free agent on the hook for the end of 2025.

When I scrolled through the list of FA’s I could only find Fogarty and Allen.

Given Fogarty has re signed…was it him and he’s had a change of mind?

If it’s Allen, I am very surprised given he’s co-captain.

Any thoughts on who we had (or still have) in our sights?

 

[Saucery]

Somewhere maybe but not the Lions this year

A 19 yo is never this year, but 203 cm forward is always worth another look.

 

[BigCat2]

A 19 yo is never this year, but 203 cm forward is always worth another look.

A tall is usually given many years (5-7) on an AFL list to prove that they can't play before being discarded. If this guy at his height gets cut after 2 years, that says a lot.

Also we need mature depth in case of injury. If we want a promising ruck/forward, we already have that in Henry Smith.

 

[Happy_Neale]

I saw a stat today that Bailey has the fourth most goals for us since 2020 after Charlie, Joe and Eric. Never understood the calls to trade him.

 

[Nunez]

I saw a stat today that Bailey has the fourth most goals for us since 2020 after Charlie, Joe and Eric. Never understood the calls to trade him.

I would absolutely trade him for an a grade key forward, but outside of that it would be pointless.

 

[martinson]

The talk of the town has been that we had a key forward free agent on the hook for the end of 2025.

When I scrolled through the list of FA’s I could only find Fogarty and Allen.

Given Fogarty has re signed…was it him and he’s had a change of mind?

If it’s Allen, I am very surprised given he’s co-captain.

Any thoughts on who we had (or still have) in our sights?

It's all talk.

I doubt we have anyone in our sights.

But we know who could conceivably could be available or gettable and we'll monitor that during 2025.

I know Joe has 90% retired but with someone like Joe we'll always have it in the back of our mind for a couple more years .

It's still always possible something emerges from our current list.

 

[pod17]

The talk of the town has been that we had a key forward free agent on the hook for the end of 2025.

When I scrolled through the list of FA’s I could only find Fogarty and Allen.

Given Fogarty has re signed…was it him and he’s had a change of mind?

If it’s Allen, I am very surprised given he’s co-captain.

Any thoughts on who we had (or still have) in our sights?

If that talk has any truth to it you’d think it’s likely Lewis given it is very, very unlikely Allen would leave WC.

 

[Section 5]

A 19 yo is never this year, but 203 cm forward is always worth another look.

The thing is we are still in the premiership window and have list spot issues this year.
Lions look like they will be keeping a spot for Day or another player with experience.
In my opinion Lions will take Tom Gillett 201cm before looking at Scully.
Or someone else in this years draft with decent height and prospects.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

I saw a stat today that Bailey has the fourth most goals for us since 2020 after Charlie, Joe and Eric. Never understood the calls to trade him.

Most of these calls were after he burned team mates in close games. That would have cooled now that we won the premiership.

 

[Perrip]

I saw a stat today that Bailey has the fourth most goals for us since 2020 after Charlie, Joe and Eric. Never understood the calls to trade him.

This stat?

 

[Happy_Neale]

This stat?

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That’s the one. He missed a number of games with injury in that time as well

 

[mpal6]

Superstars galore as rivals prepare to circle new big fish: Key free agents at every AFL club

AFL superstars ready to hit the open market as rivals circle: Every club’s 2025 free agents

www.foxsports.com.au

Usual re-hash article with Rayner and Starcevich from Lions listed as potential players who are available.

I think Starce will stay, but Rayner could get some serious offers if he goes up another level in consistency again in 2025.

 

[BuntonRules]

Superstars galore as rivals prepare to circle new big fish: Key free agents at every AFL club

AFL superstars ready to hit the open market as rivals circle: Every club’s 2025 free agents

www.foxsports.com.au

Usual re-hash article with Rayner and Starcevich from Lions listed as potential players who are available.

I think Starce will stay, but Rayner could get some serious offers if he goes up another level in consistency again in 2025.

I reckon Cam is as invested in our club as anyone.

 

[Happy_Neale]

I would absolutely trade him for an a grade key forward, but outside of that it would be pointless.

He is an A grade forward at his best. You don’t trade out very good players for slight upgrades IMO. A good way to kill your culture for minimal improvements

 

[Nuggo]

Climbing to the top of the mountain with your mates is a strong motivation. Once you reach it, money talks for some. The motivation the club should be expressing to the lads is - we know we are good but how good do you think we can be - lets stick together and find out.