List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[pod17]

Seems like the talk of a KF being on the hook for 2026 is out there in the industry - or Damo is reading Bigfooty again...

BARRETT: The wolves are out, but Lions primed to defy recent history

Retaining key members of its off-field team has Brisbane primed to buck a recent trend

www.afl.com.au

 

[Grasshopper17]

Seems like the talk of a KF being on the hook for 2026 is out there in the industry - or Damo is reading Bigfooty again...

BARRETT: The wolves are out, but Lions primed to defy recent history

Retaining key members of its off-field team has Brisbane primed to buck a recent trend

www.afl.com.au

Avid Roar Deal listener, our man Damo.

 

[Perrip]

Seems like the talk of a KF being on the hook for 2026 is out there in the industry - or Damo is reading Bigfooty again...

BARRETT: The wolves are out, but Lions primed to defy recent history

Retaining key members of its off-field team has Brisbane primed to buck a recent trend

www.afl.com.au

The rival clubs understanding we have someone we're going to trade for next year is a new development. So is the news that Fagan is expected to publicly extend for 2026 soon.

 

[StevoJenkins]

Can we bring in a KF with no trade capital after matching Ashcroft, Marshall, then Annable next year?

Had a look at the FA list for next year and the only decent key forwards are Tex and Allen. There's the Bont if you want a guy who can play anywhere, I guess...

 

[Tom14]

Can we bring in a KF with no trade capital after matching Ashcroft, Marshall, then Annable next year?

Had a look at the FA list for next year and the only decent key forwards are Tex and Allen. There's the Bont if you want a guy who can play anywhere, I guess...

Theoretically Sam Darcy is out of contract but that isn’t happening. Oscar Allen would be my bet.

 

[bungalow_bill]

This is now absolutely a record I am invested in. McCluggage should be able to pump out another 100+ games but most of the other Mc's are getting on a bit. We need to start recruiting a young Mc ASAP. McCluggage needs McBackup

Reminds me of the many McGee nicknames on NCIS

 

[blueiris]

Oscar Allen

12

Oscar Allen

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

as a free agent

 

[rye]

i honestly thought that the 'mystery key forward' to the club at end of 2025 was purely dom fay spouting fan nuffy hopium but if barrett is running with it theres probably something there.

reckon we'll make a play for mitch lewis. has gone on boys trips with our players in the past.

 

[Surly Boy]

Barrett...

 

[BangyBangy]

Can we bring in a KF with no trade capital after matching Ashcroft, Marshall, then Annable next year?

Had a look at the FA list for next year and the only decent key forwards are Tex and Allen. There's the Bont if you want a guy who can play anywhere, I guess...

These days they don't need to be free agency players, just out of contract players. Sure you have to pony up something, but nothing like you do a contracted player. Bailey Smith with a year or two left on his contract would have been a vastly different trade.

 

[lion64]

i honestly thought that the 'mystery key forward' to the club at end of 2025 was purely dom fay spouting fan nuffy hopium but if barrett is running with it theres probably something there.

reckon we'll make a play for mitch lewis. has gone on boys trips with our players in the past.

If Dom and Barrett are running with it, it's come from Fish..

On SM-G781B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[MSB ROYS]

If Dom and Barrett are running with it, it's come from Fish..

On SM-G781B using BigFooty.com mobile app

Could be (Bigfooty to) Dom to Fish to Barrett.

 

[Tom14]

i honestly thought that the 'mystery key forward' to the club at end of 2025 was purely dom fay spouting fan nuffy hopium but if barrett is running with it theres probably something there.

reckon we'll make a play for mitch lewis. has gone on boys trips with our players in the past.

Contracted until end of 2026. Not really keen on having to find picks to trade in a contracted player - we could do it, but will make matching academy bids hard.

Much much easier if we can find a free agent but it is slim pickings.

 

[rye]

Contracted until end of 2026. Not really keen on having to find picks to trade in a contracted player - we could do it, but will make matching academy bids hard.

Much much easier if we can find a free agent but it is slim pickings.

the only one that stands out is allan and id say hes pretty much a 0 percent chance of leaving. captain of the club and from wa.

 

[Perrip]

Contracted until end of 2026. Not really keen on having to find picks to trade in a contracted player - we could do it, but will make matching academy bids hard.

Much much easier if we can find a free agent but it is slim pickings.

Trading out players is more likely I reckon

 

[Nunez]

Contracted until end of 2026. Not really keen on having to find picks to trade in a contracted player - we could do it, but will make matching academy bids hard.

Much much easier if we can find a free agent but it is slim pickings.

Starce for Allen confirmed.

 

[Maverick]

There’s several factors in play here.

If we do need to orchestrate a trade, remember from next year you can trade 2 years in advance (2026 and 2027 picks).

Not a fan of trading out players (unless they really want to leave). It has taken years under Fagan and Greg Swann to build this culture. Last thing we need to do is to start shopping players around like we did at the time of the Fev trade (Bradshaw and Rischitelli).

Need enough points for Dan Annable. Maybe pick 5-15 range? But his rating could change over the next year. No 20% discount.

If it was Oscar Allen

12

Oscar Allen

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

I too would be very surprised given he’s captain. But Leigh Colbert

Leigh Colbert

Age

49

Ht

192cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

8.6

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

did it. To get a player like that via free agency for nothing would be a massive bonus.

Why’s Starce not signing. Causing me many sleepless nights. He was massive in the GF and finals in general. If he does head home under FA:

• we get compo pick to use for potential trade of KF.
• if it was Oscar Allen
  12

  Oscar Allen

  Age

  25

  Ht

  196cm

  Wt

  96kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.8

  2star

  K

  6.6

  3star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  3.8

  4star

  T

  2.4

  4star

  G

  1.1

  4star

  No current season stats available

  D

  8.6

  3star

  K

  5.8

  3star

  HB

  2.8

  3star

  M

  3.8

  4star

  T

  2.0

  4star

  G

  1.2

  4star

  we get via FA, lose compo for Starce.

A lot still to play out.

 

[pod17]

There’s several factors in play here.

If we do need to orchestrate a trade, remember from next year you can trade 2 years in advance (2026 and 2027 picks).

Not a fan of trading out players (unless they really want to leave). It has taken years under Fagan and Greg Swann to build this culture. Last thing we need to do is to start shopping players around like we did at the time of the Fev trade (Bradshaw and Rischitelli).

Need enough points for Dan Annable. Maybe pick 5-15 range? But his rating could change over the next year. No 20% discount.

If it was Oscar Allen I too would be very surprised given he’s captain. But Leigh Colbert did it. To get a player like that via free agency for nothing would be a massive bonus.

Why’s Starce not signing. Causing me many sleepless nights. He was massive in the GF and finals in general. If he does head home under FA:

• we get compo pick to use for potential trade of KF.
• if it was Oscar Allen we get via FA, lose compo for Starce.

A lot still to play out.

Agree that it isn’t ideal. However, we’ve had some good success signing a players in the lead up to FA.
Starce would be very hard to replace, but if Doedee were fit and Brain continues his development trajectory it wouldn’t be catastrophic if it meant bolstering our KF stocks.

 

[Tom14]

There’s several factors in play here.

If we do need to orchestrate a trade, remember from next year you can trade 2 years in advance (2026 and 2027 picks).

Not a fan of trading out players (unless they really want to leave). It has taken years under Fagan and Greg Swann to build this culture. Last thing we need to do is to start shopping players around like we did at the time of the Fev trade (Bradshaw and Rischitelli).

Need enough points for Dan Annable. Maybe pick 5-15 range? But his rating could change over the next year. No 20% discount.

If it was Oscar Allen I too would be very surprised given he’s captain. But Leigh Colbert did it. To get a player like that via free agency for nothing would be a massive bonus.

Why’s Starce not signing. Causing me many sleepless nights. He was massive in the GF and finals in general. If he does head home under FA:

• we get compo pick to use for potential trade of KF.
• if it was Oscar Allen we get via FA, lose compo for Starce.

A lot still to play out.

It is early november. If he hasn't signed by the bye next year then panic away. But no one credible has said anything about him either way so don't see the need to worry.

 

[Perrip]

It is early november. If he hasn't signed by the bye next year then panic away. But no one credible has said anything about him either way so don't see the need to worry.

Yeah, if anyone OOC is contemplating leaving next year, we should know it early in the year when their name comes up in trade discussions - i.e. Dev Rob this year.

 

[Saucery]

There’s several factors in play here.

If we do need to orchestrate a trade, remember from next year you can trade 2 years in advance (2026 and 2027 picks).

Not a fan of trading out players (unless they really want to leave). It has taken years under Fagan and Greg Swann to build this culture. Last thing we need to do is to start shopping players around like we did at the time of the Fev trade (Bradshaw and Rischitelli).

Need enough points for Dan Annable. Maybe pick 5-15 range? But his rating could change over the next year. No 20% discount.

If it was Oscar Allen I too would be very surprised given he’s captain. But Leigh Colbert did it. To get a player like that via free agency for nothing would be a massive bonus.

Why’s Starce not signing. Causing me many sleepless nights. He was massive in the GF and finals in general. If he does head home under FA:

• we get compo pick to use for potential trade of KF.
• if it was Oscar Allen we get via FA, lose compo for Starce.

A lot still to play out.

Must agree Starce was huge, but Answerth has emerged as a serious lock down defender in his own right and if there is one part of the ground where our cup runeth over it's down back. Would never contemplate putting him on the table but if he wants to capitalize on this then we can just hope to get top tier compensation.

 

[mpal6]

Theoretically Sam Darcy is out of contract but that isn’t happening. Oscar Allen would be my bet.

I remember this type of conversation back in 2022 mid-year when Dunkley was out of contract. We never know.

 

[SizeMatters]

How could the Dogs afford to lock up 3m+ in cap space for 3 key forwards? I'd be coming to Darcy with a deal he can't refuse. $1.4m over 6 years.

I'd hope for Allen as a 'possible' but we will probably end up with a Finlayson. It's hard to get the highest paid few from one club to move to another. It happens but it's not that common.

 

[Tom14]

I remember this type of conversation back in 2022 mid-year when Dunkley was out of contract. We never know.

Andrew Dunkley wasn’t a sitting club director!

 

[JasRulz63]

https://archive.md/0E6pe

Interesting (albeit now irrelevant) little tidbit:

Fremantle have officially nominated promising forward Jaren Carr as a father-son prospect ahead of this month’s draft but are no certainty to take the 20-year-old.

The West Australian understands the Dockers have lodged the paperwork which will allow them to match any bid on the 191cm South Fremantle forward during this year’s national draft which runs from November 20 to 21.

The forward sensationally didn’t nominate for the mid-season draft earlier this year despite significant interest from Brisbane who were understood to be willing to offer Carr an 18-month contract to head to the eventual premiers.