I have no knowledge of anyone but constant talk is we are speaking with everyone possible and have been more active than ever before. Even adding staff. I expect a name or two will arise that we haven't discussed or considered.
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I have no knowledge of anyone but constant talk is we are speaking with everyone possible and have been more active than ever before. Even adding staff. I expect a name or two will arise that we haven't discussed or considered.
Chances Lewis Young can add some size and strength to his frame and hold down CHB next season while Weitering has more freedom?
I don't think it's out of the equation. This worked for us in the remaining few games including the final against The Lions.
It's a different role to what we have used him in the past where he has had to play lose as a back pocket (third tall). It's a less confusing more simple role he can actually play.
Weitering is the smart player who can play CHB or back pocket.
We just need to really crank up the pace and pressure in the middle so guys like Weitering and McGovern can play loser and we have an amazing intercepting defence.
I'm not writing this off. Young defended well and took a few marks when in position. It's a simple role which he has always needed.
I don't think it's out of the equation. This worked for us in the remaining few games including the final against The Lions.
It's a different role to what we have used him in the past where he has had to play lose as a back pocket (third tall). It's a less confusing more simple role he can actually play.
Weitering is the smart player who can play CHB or back pocket.
We just need to really crank up the pace and pressure in the middle so guys like Weitering and McGovern can play loser and we have an amazing intercepting defence.
I'm not writing this off. Young defended well and took a few marks when in position. It's a simple role which he has always needed.
I think Young's kicking has improved. Hit up Hewitt with a well weighted pass inside 50 and had a great outlet kick against Lions. Looked shaky against the Saints when Pitto and Kemp were the long down the line targets out numbered 2 to 1.
We must be proactive this trade & draft period, no more procrastination.
Opposition teams will improve their list again and leave us behind.
There are obvious gaps we need to attend to .
I’m hoping Austin is up to the task, astute and analytical forget about sentiments, we need action.
Opposition teams will improve their list again and leave us behind.
There are obvious gaps we need to attend to .
I’m hoping Austin is up to the task, astute and analytical forget about sentiments, we need action.
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Very pleased to hear this to be honest.
Only concern is the list space, would need to move on all of Carroll, Martin, Owies (thats fine), but also likely add the contracted duo of Kennedy and Pittonet to that list in order to provide space for incomings, on top of the 6 rumoured delistings.
3 senior list trades/FA - Rosas, Haynes & Sinn
3 senior list draft - Berry, Trainor & B Campo
1 rookie promotion - Boyd
2 rookie pre-selections - L Campo (Cat A), Duffy (Cat B)
2 mature age rookie/SSP picks - Macpherson (former Suns), White (Carlton VFL)
Hopefully we can retain our future picks to go for Butters as a pre-agent in 2025 and also go for our KPD2 in Balta as a FA.
I'd be aiming to turn our currency from Carroll, Martin, Owies, Kennedy and Pittonet, + our current 2nd rounder into Rosas, Sinn, another pick around 15ish + some loose change upgrade for a B Campo bid.
Next year will be the clincher re Young becoming a staple in the backline. He showed good signs when he came in at the back end and was good against the Lions. Given his age too, it would be great king term if he can ultimately form a good combo with Weitering.
Otherwise it’ll be up to big H to take the CHB mantle haha.
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Young can play....just needs self belief
Lewis Young fails in the one thing he can't improve - football IQ and decision making. You can't teach that. He's an anxious, dumb footballer. You can't fix that after I dunno, Under 14's.
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Yeah, but it is the inconsistency that just annoys everyone. He plays 1 good game then the next 3-4 game he looks like a headless chook and shanks kicks. If he can perform what he did against Brisbane each week and out and improved kicking than no issues with him.
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Our actions will be what’s important and that doesn’t mean signing stars, I just hope we do a bit to fix our needs.
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To be fair so is Darcy Moore. They found a way of hiding that for a few years with some smart footballers around him in Howe, Murphy and Maynard
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Keep a player who’s constantly injured and can’t get in the ground even at VFL over a player who’s getting in the park?
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Was it you Soapy who spoke about some defender playing for Werribee?
I think it was you, however, who it was spoke highly of him. Hope the LM have had a look at him
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Serious question...does Young need to visit a hypnotherapist? Not the ones we used to see on TV but a specialist medical practitioner who can help hm with that belief?
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Get him to a Ayahuasca retreat in the hills of Peru
E Himmelberg should be in the mix ... wanted out from Adelaide previously to join his brother and deal couldn't de done. There's other talls ahead of him at Adelaide. Does give me Lewis Young 2.0 vibes however.
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It's all in the head the doctor said.....
I like that we are aiming for 11 and another top 25 pick as the priority and some bargain trades. Pity Alir has gone quiet. Houston non essential for mine
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Pure confidence player.
Is easily AFL standard when his confidence is up, in fact a good AFL player.
Is below VFL standard when he makes a mistake and drops his head.
Wouldn't hurt for Weitering to get around him more often than giving him sprays.
Totally agree. I actually reckon he's had a pretty good season bar a few matches where he went into his shell.
One thing that was evident during the 2nd half of the season was that he was moving the ball a lot quicker than previously. It's obviously something they've been working on, and has the summer to work on it even more. And contrary to one poster's remarks earlier, he's a fairly powerful unit and doesn't need to work on his size and strength. I remember listening to Josh Jenkins on SEN after we'd drafted Lewy - said that he'd played on him a few times and was surprised how strong he was in the contest.
No doubt we need to draft/develop a young KPD though, particularly before the compromised drafts in a few years.
In between times, I reckon it's a no brainer that we add Liam McMahon to our list. He's primarily a forward - and a very good one imo - but has also been used in defence at different times to plug holes, and has also been good when called upon. Classic swingman, good back up option either forward or back - and would cost us nothing if we signed him as a DFA, or even a rookie pick.
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Chicken or egg?
Poor decision making & IQ because of anxiety, or anxious because he is a poor decision maker with poor IQ?
I reckon it's the former. If he can get his mental right he can be the answer. Overthinks everything too much before doing anything.
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Carlton confirms list changes
Carlton can confirm five changes to its AFL playing list.
David Cuningham, Caleb Marchbank, Jack Martin, Alex Mirkov and Dom Akuei Delisted.
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I’m loving Soapy’s insight on what List Management is planning. Hopefully it is not derailed by the coaching staff.
To me, there are lots of little things we need to do for a flag, rather than one big thing.
I actually think the 1995 pre-season is instructive:
I feel like we are in the same space this year.
To me, there are lots of little things we need to do for a flag, rather than one big thing.
I actually think the 1995 pre-season is instructive:
- went to the draft to address the most immediate need (speed) with Scott Camporeale
- got involved in low cost trades to address other holes on the list (Manton, Clape)
- engaged in player development to provide for flexibility beyond the senior stars (Ratten, Kouta, Whitehead)
- worked on injury rehab for guys who had been injury prone (Rice, Pearce)
I feel like we are in the same space this year.
- look at the draft to fix the deficiency in pace, kicking skills, and small forwards - Berry, Travaglia, Horton
- find low cost trades to address areas of need - Konstanty, Haynes
- put time into player development, including players in roles where they might address current team deficiencies - Kemp, Wilson, Moir, Lord, Cowan
- sort out injury rehab - Curnow, Cerra
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Outsider here but I was shocked by Jack Martin being delisted. Admittedly, I haven't watched all that much in recent months but last I could remember was a valuable piece to the Blues. Has this view been shifted by Blues fans? Genuinely curious!
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