List Mgmt. 2024 List Management Part 2 📃

[Arr0w]

When a side is travelling well, many players can look better than they actually are, when a side is travelling poorly, the opposite can seem true

We, no club, is going to make large amounts of positional changes to rectify poor output, it's the stuff of unicorns

 

[BlueJet]

Who is DGB and can he run through the middle?

Denver Grainger-Barras, formerly an early pick by the Hawks.
Probably more of a third tall stylistically, there are some concerns regarding attitude & fitness.
Already down the pecking order at the Hawks & given the pursuit of Battle & Barrass, it should give a fair indication of how he's rated.
Would be surprised if we picked him up.

 

[blues4flag]

Mate we don't have any line breakers. We play to this lists strengths which is stoppage, contested ball and contested marking.

Everyone around here seems to think we have the Daicos brothers and prime Isaac Smith running around but it's Vossy telling them to play another way. Reality is we just have a lod of slow, poor by foot players on our team.

Yep. Obvious in how quick Voss is to drop Hewett and Kennedy or demote to sub. Knows we need more pace but don't have much to play with.

Hurts that a lot of our more dynamic players have missed the majority of the season. Martin, Cuners, Doc, Cottrell, Fogarty, Cerra. Walsh and Motlop significantly down on form and fitness.

 

[Inspector Closseau]

Don’t we? I’m not so sure. We have a number of players with good leg speed. IMO it’s more how we use them and how we play that is the issue.

From the day Voss arrived he was all about contested ball. It’s always been his philosophy no matter what the list

This has to change and my belief is that this is not the way to 'play' a season. You can't be smash and bash for an entire season without copping our sort of injuries. GWS seem to have it right that you play this style in September, if you have to. My theory is that psychologically our soft-tissues are caused by this but I'm just an amateur.

Get the Trac I say and all non-core 6 are off the table. If they can get Houston, get him. Is Motlop desirable to Port?

We can off-load some of the HB's we've accumulated.

St. Kilda seem to be in the market for whoever they can get.

Keep Owies because he's the best of a bad bunch. At least Fogarty defends.

 

[ABigOlDoofus]

Haven’t his issues largely been injury related?

Hasn't had a great run with injury, but when he's played hasn't set the world on fire either from what I'm aware.

 

[katmanblue]

Hurts that a lot of our more dynamic players have missed the majority of the season. Martin, Cuners, Doc, Cottrell, Fogarty, Cerra. Walsh and Motlop significantly down on form and fitness.

And most are not great by hand or foot.

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[BrisbaneCFC]

We have a huge problem with our small forwards (apart from owies) not kicking enough goals…Goal tallies for 2024…

Matt Owies 33 goals ()

Lachlan Fogarty 9 goals

Orazio Fantasia 9 goals

Corey Durdin 7 goals

Jesse Motlop 6 goals

That is abysmal

How many games did they each play?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Don’t we? I’m not so sure. We have a number of players with good leg speed. IMO it’s more how we use them and how we play that is the issue.

From the day Voss arrived he was all about contested ball. It’s always been his philosophy no matter what the list

Who do we have that have good leg speed?

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I love Fogarty but is this enough these days?

My smalls for next season are Fogarty and Motlop

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Add DGB. An inquiry has been made

I thought he showed a bit last year up fwd before going down injured. Would be keen to see how he goes next to Weiters even if it was just a train on spot

 

[InGibbsWeTrust]

We have a huge problem with our small forwards (apart from owies) not kicking enough goals…Goal tallies for 2024…

Matt Owies 33 goals ()

Lachlan Fogarty

8

Lachlan Fogarty

Age

25

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

9 goals

Orazio Fantasia

14

Orazio Fantasia

Age

29

Ht

180cm

Wt

73kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.1

5star

G

1.4

5star

D

9.8

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

2star

G

0.2

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.0

1star

9 goals

Corey Durdin 7 goals

Jesse Motlop 6 goals

That is abysmal

How Owies isn’t already signed up is beyond me. Absolutely blows my mind. He’s such a great kick for goal and you always know what you’re getting from him.


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[katmanblue]

Add DGB. An inquiry has been made

Cross between Young and Schache

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[WalshistheGOAT]

Anyone know anything about the Nathan O'Driscoll situation? Apparently Freo have low balled him Acres style and will be departing due to that.

Very good player but terrible history of injury... Probably rules us out on that fact alone after years of enduring Martin, Cunners etc

 

[bradfisher14]

Anyone know anything about the Nathan O'Driscoll situation? Apparently Freo have low balled him Acres style and will be departing due to that.

Very good player but terrible history of injury... Probably rules us out on that fact alone after years of enduring Martin, Cunners etc

Sounds like the usual Peter Bell 4D chess move

 

[AB_Blue]

its a good life

5”11 and a half

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Were the exit interviews today, would have thought some news would have come out by now?

 

[Accidental genius]

How many games did they each play?

Yes absolutely… that’s another good stat for owies……much more robust compared to the others…playing every game or close to.

 

[ctwenty1]

5”11 and a half

6’ in my books

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

How Owies isn’t already signed up is beyond me. Absolutely blows my mind. He’s such a great kick for goal and you always know what you’re getting from him.


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Is strange which makes me think he has an offer on the table that we are not prepared to match. I can’t imagine we haven’t put something in front of him by now, but good luck to him if he wants to explore his options.

 

[gbatman]

IMO Durdin is a midfielder being played as a forward

I would actually love to see him played in the middle. Jack Viney type. Short, agile. If his tackling and his attack on the footy came up to scratch then he adds heaps. A few years ago he would go into the middle and make things happen, real impact player. Then the coach stopped doing it and he has also carried a shoulder injury too long.

I think he played his junior footy in the middle is that right?

One of Voss' biggest weaknesses is knowing where to play players and where to try players. While I would not want to have him as head coach, gee Brett Ratten would be an amazing get at the club. He's an elite assistant and this is one of his strengths.

I'd love to see Durdin get a good run on the ball, even if he has to to it through the VFL and earn his spot. He's fast off the mark and he's got great agility, more a mid than a forward, a lot of the top sides have good little guys in there who use their strengths to be evasive with the footy and their closing ability to apply pressure and tackling. He could be that player.

What if we just simply had to add Durdin and Lord to our onball group to bring us up to speed and we never tried it? This is what worries me about Voss. I think he probably tries stuff in the match sims during the summer and takes too much away from that. I don't think you can take much away from match sim. Players aren't in first gear and the standard is not AFL.

 

[TENACIOUS]

Media going with Stringer leaving *, only on $400k next year, just wants x2 years…

A Melbourne, North, Collingwood are going to get a player of need for average afl wage…

 

[Blue and Silver]

Collingwood should be all over Stringer at that price.

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[bigblueboy]

Were the exit interviews today, would have thought some news would have come out by now?

Announcement after all exits are complete.

 

[reubsblues]

If we could turn cerra into Macrae and Garcia
I would do it in a heartbeat

 

[TENACIOUS]

If we could turn cerra into Macrae and Garcia
I would do it in a heartbeat

Would have thought Cerra holds more value than both of them combined…

Might get Macrae and Garcia for a third round each