they arenāt going to be shit forever, top tier coach, contract length, $$$, some great young talent, given they may pay overs he looks after the club heās leaving too.
Theres plenty of reasons, god only knows which ones matter to him.
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Theres plenty of reasons, god only knows which ones matter to him.
Houston for next years first is a disaster. A HBF we don't need.
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A disaster?
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The time to pick Liam Ryan was 7 years ago when he was kicking goals for fun playing for Subiaco but alas SOS and his team didnāt really bother looking further than the local underage competitions, and still managed to fcuk up most of their high draft picks. That said if we did pick up Ryan he would immediately be the best small forward weāve had since Eddie Betts. Iāve said it a few but Iām not sure heād enjoy living in Melbourne playing for high profile club.
Membrey works his arse off and would support Harry and Charlie. That said Iād rather have Jack SOS doing that role.
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Iām on the fence with Houston.
I prefer to go to the draft & also pick up targetted role players cheaply
Our list is not that far off - we just need a few more specific players & a lot of luck with injuries
Bring on 2025 already!
I prefer to go to the draft & also pick up targetted role players cheaply
Our list is not that far off - we just need a few more specific players & a lot of luck with injuries
Bring on 2025 already!
WCE?
Ryan wasnāt leaving WA at draft time.
We were linked with Tim Kelly in that draft so we were looking at the WAFL - also took Garlett in that draft from South Freo. OāShea from the VFL too later in the PSD.
Pretty sure he said heāll be playing in VIC today, heās gone.
Comes down to the money offers vs trade capital from each club but if/when he nominates a club itāll be out of Portās hands and their preferred draft picks gained.
Sure Northās pitch will be excess $$ās and a better pick for his outgoing club vs a solid salary, Voss connection and near success
Just look at J.Polec should be the advice.
Apart from Haynes and a strong chance with Houston, I'm really interested in who else we target
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Cards seem close to our chest. Iām expecting Konstanty unless we know we are chasing some goal kicking smalls at the draft. Stone the other trade Iād like to see happen but doubtful.
But if we do hit the draft Iād love for a a 1/2 punch with Dattoli and Hannaford. My preference would be Hotton or Lindsay but can see that Dattoli and Hannaford could be a very sensible draft outcome.
Some delistings will be good (Konstanty & perhaps O.Hotton, if of interest) to avoid draft capital going out & be able to hit this years draft over & above the Campoās.
Still needing to cut deeper.
Out: 5 (Dom & Mirkov)
In: 2 (Duffy & Lord)
Struggling with GC accepting our FF for their pick 12 this year.
We would surely have to add to our FF.
GC would be receiving better offers for 12 than our FF.
I hear the claims that Austin is very keen to take our pick 11 to the draft.
Iām a bit suspicious of this ā¦ and would Voss play the kid anyway.
Austin needs to convince Port heās serious so they accept whatever else he can scrape together should Houston nominate Carlton.
If he can achieve that, then pick 11 is in the game for the next phase of his plan ā¦ unlocking a partner of quality for Weitering.
If the player was Aleer, the plotting probably wouldnāt be necessary.
2025 first rounder for Aleer.
2024 first rounder for Houston.
If the player was SDK, pick 11 would have to be the centrepiece of a trade.
Whatever Austin is working towards, itās impossible to believe that heās going into next season with Haynes as the only backup for Weitering ā¦
We would surely have to add to our FF.
GC would be receiving better offers for 12 than our FF.
I hear the claims that Austin is very keen to take our pick 11 to the draft.
Iām a bit suspicious of this ā¦ and would Voss play the kid anyway.
Austin needs to convince Port heās serious so they accept whatever else he can scrape together should Houston nominate Carlton.
If he can achieve that, then pick 11 is in the game for the next phase of his plan ā¦ unlocking a partner of quality for Weitering.
If the player was Aleer, the plotting probably wouldnāt be necessary.
2025 first rounder for Aleer.
2024 first rounder for Houston.
If the player was SDK, pick 11 would have to be the centrepiece of a trade.
Whatever Austin is working towards, itās impossible to believe that heās going into next season with Haynes as the only backup for Weitering ā¦
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Nothing surer than a name or 2 a lot donāt expect to be traded will happen. List still needs to be balanced better and a surprise or 2 is to come most likely next week imo
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Would gladly take a punt Garcia and play him 70/30 midfield/forward. Would cost us nothing and the games I saw him play towards the end of this against the Dees and Crows I thought he played pretty well
Pretty sure the previous #11 selected has played the majority of games since being drafted under Voss.
#30 Cowan has quite a few games under his belt too.
Think others may have been in his ear prior, namely WCE & PTA, if he elects to leave.
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And thatās fair. I heard he may want to still stay in Victoria. Could be interesting but I think he and Lord in the middle in 2025 for stints could change up our midfield dynamic. Iād certainly ask the question
Houston a 28yo 800k Halfback Flanker does not fix our key issues in the midfield, keyback. Not worth a first rounder.
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He helps if we can address some other holes too. If its Houston or filling the holes I'd tend to the latter but think we have enough to do both.
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Iām open to Houston (but still hoping for Trac!).
I think what is easily underestimated (and the reason Iāve come around to the idea of Houston) is how valuable elite kicks are in terms of what they can mean for transition (not to mention goal-scoring from outside 50 and delivery inside 50). If you watch the way the Swans and Hawks move the ball particularly, but even the Cats with Stewart - itās often clinical.
Being one of the best kicks in the game makes him much more than just another half-back imoā¦ and if weāre being honest, on top of small forwards, dynamic mids and key-defenders, we are well below the mark with kicking skills.
I think what is easily underestimated (and the reason Iāve come around to the idea of Houston) is how valuable elite kicks are in terms of what they can mean for transition (not to mention goal-scoring from outside 50 and delivery inside 50). If you watch the way the Swans and Hawks move the ball particularly, but even the Cats with Stewart - itās often clinical.
Being one of the best kicks in the game makes him much more than just another half-back imoā¦ and if weāre being honest, on top of small forwards, dynamic mids and key-defenders, we are well below the mark with kicking skills.
I think heās worth pick 11 just so I donāt have to watch us kick in to a contest on the boundary 45m out every single timeā¦
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Haha - yeah. One of the main things I noticed in the finals was how much the players moved to create on a kick-in. Such a contrast to us.
Obviously thatās system as well but it might encourage us to get more creative having Houston there.
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Any thoughts on which position we have Duffy earmarked for?
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And trading a first rounder as well as inserting his salary into our cap, really limits how we can address those other holes which are more important...
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Where else is he going to kick to?
Do you really think our players are that dumb, that they can't look for a target? They are playing within their shell... have been ever since the Giants touched them up.
Mids cluster along the wing, don't work hard enough to find space and present and so rather than hit pin point targets that are surrounded by opposition, the backs kick long up the boundary to a contest.
Fix the midfield, I'm more than confident Boyd, Newman, Saad, Gov can find and hit targets... they've already proven so...
