List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[freodog]

I'd heard Richmond was keen on Reidy but he re-signed with us. Might have been crap unless they shifted their focus to Knobel?

 

[wakojako]

Knobel must stay. He’s raw but he’s going to be a freak soon.

I don't think he will unfortunately, probably trade bait for Richmond. It's a shame because if he continues his current trajectory, I can see him competing for Darcy's spot. We really need a plan B for Darcy cause I'm loosing faith.

 

[dont bowl there]

Ling used to do that on the regular while tagging

Not many like Ling though, he was one of a kind who could get the ball himself and stop the best. He could also take an unreal overhead mark, NOD breaks lines so I just can't see why we would want to make him a tagger.

 

[fnerd]

Twomey just stated we have pick 10 on the table

















For Liam Baker

We’ve officially lost the plot if that’s the case

 

[Lach72]

I don't think he will unfortunately, probably trade bait for Richmond. It's a shame because if he continues his current trajectory, I can see him competing for Darcy's spot.

I was watching Reidy against Jones on the weekend and thinking Knobel may be a better match as he’s just bigger

 

[dont bowl there]

They seem to use it as a way of getting players up to speed in the middle. They did the same with Young and now he is off the leash. Great way to learn what the best players do, watching the vision during the week and then first hand in the game.

Also, I doubt it would be a Crowleyesque tagging role, not so close checking

Yeah, I get that the team likes to do it that way but I don't really see the need myself. Young was going to be an offensive weapon in the midfield regardless if he spent 10 games playing the defensive role. The best mids mostly either start off playing forward (backline as well recently ie Daicos and Sheezle) with some mid time or just pure midfield time. Can't think of any that started as taggers then went onto become the best, only we seem to think you need to learn by tagging.

 

[MadMundy]

I wasn't going to say "I told you so" in regards to O'Driscoll, but I told you so.

Genuinely was shocked at how many people genuinely thought he was a chance to walk out and leave, was never in doubt that he was staying in my opinion.

 

[THE_GUN]

The more I think about it, we surely really want Houston picking North? Would give us a chance to have a real win. Surely Richmond are valuing North's future 1st over 9 or 10 given the volume of picks they'll have this year and we are basically the only club they can trade their future 1st for. Gives us an absurd amount of power as the middle man.

Pick 9 -> North F1 (top 5 pick expectation)
North F1, 16 - Bolton, Richmond F2

If played right, you could generate a future pick 19 out of nothing. Houston picking North could be huge for us.

If you dont mind me intruding and giving a richmond supporters opinion on this on your board

Richmond would rather picks in this years draft than in 2025 but early picks
If freo could haggle pick #2 from North in some way then that pick would be what we would be looking at

Richmond will be looking to move #21 into next year for a F1 possibly to Geelong or Pies maybe even Port
very good chance we will have pick #1 again and possibly pick #2 with Noah Balta as a free agent that would attract Mac Andrews level interest and with Dyson Sharp / Archie Ludowyke as the stand out mid and Fowards i dont know if Richmond will match that type of offer.

I also think North will be better next year than people may think and wouldnt surprise me to see them finish 10-13 range with all the talent they now have and another year

 

[dont bowl there]

very good chance we will have pick #1 again and possibly pick #2 with Noah Balta as a free agent that would attract Mac Andrews level interest

Ahhhhhh

 

[THE_GUN]

It would be insane for Richmond to not pay a chunk of Boltons salary. Effectively they need to pay someone or risk penalties due to not meeting minimum salary cap requirements. If you think 9 and 16 doesn mean Boltons being rated as having elite trading value compared to previous trading for elite contracted players you know 0 about player trading history and thats not even for drafts considered to have terrific talent in the first 20 picks like 2024. Do better.

Lynch $1.5
Hopper $700k
Taranto $700k

Think we have enough front ending that wont be an issue
But cap space is a tool that could be used to get better picks and as of next year cap trading is a high chance to come in
pay everybody up and buy picks with cap space next 2 years then free agents would be the plan

 

[Cobbler]

If you dont mind me intruding and giving a richmond supporters opinion on this on your board

Richmond would rather picks in this years draft than in 2025 but early picks
If freo could haggle pick #2 from North in some way then that pick would be what we would be looking at

Richmond will be looking to move #21 into next year for a F1 possibly to Geelong or Pies maybe even Port
very good chance we will have pick #1 again and possibly pick #2 with Noah Balta as a free agent that would attract Mac Andrews level interest and with Dyson Sharp / Archie Ludowyke as the stand out mid and Fowards i dont know if Richmond will match that type of offer.

I also think North will be better next year than people may think and wouldnt surprise me to see them finish 10-13 range with all the talent they now have and another year

What if we did mind?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

If you dont mind me intruding and giving a richmond supporters opinion on this on your board

Richmond would rather picks in this years draft than in 2025 but early picks
If freo could haggle pick #2 from North in some way then that pick would be what we would be looking at

Richmond will be looking to move #21 into next year for a F1 possibly to Geelong or Pies maybe even Port
very good chance we will have pick #1 again and possibly pick #2 with Noah Balta as a free agent that would attract Mac Andrews level interest and with Dyson Sharp / Archie Ludowyke as the stand out mid and Fowards i dont know if Richmond will match that type of offer.

I also think North will be better next year than people may think and wouldnt surprise me to see them finish 10-13 range with all the talent they now have and another year

You touched on it but your club is going to be interested in getting at least one extra future 1st and North's is going to be the best one up for grabs. It's just too many picks this year and if there's any club that can be patient to possibly get MAXIMUM value, it's Richmond. 5 or 6 picks top 20 picks in one draft is just not the best way to go about things IMO.

Everyone keeps expecting North to go up, yet down the bottom they stay and who else do you honestly think is more likely of being bottom 4? For North, pick 9 is more valuable than their future 1st if it means getting Houston. For Richmond, I'd have thought it's about getting as much value as possible and you cant possibly lose because North's pick is absolutely not going to be pick 9 next year, even if they improve.

I keep getting told by a Richmond supporter that the top 5 is where it's at and you wouldnt take the unloseable gamble to get one?

 

[AstonSouffle]

If you dont mind me intruding and giving a richmond supporters opinion on this on your board

Richmond would rather picks in this years draft than in 2025 but early picks
If freo could haggle pick #2 from North in some way then that pick would be what we would be looking at

Richmond will be looking to move #21 into next year for a F1 possibly to Geelong or Pies maybe even Port
very good chance we will have pick #1 again and possibly pick #2 with Noah Balta as a free agent that would attract Mac Andrews level interest and with Dyson Sharp / Archie Ludowyke as the stand out mid and Fowards i dont know if Richmond will match that type of offer.

I also think North will be better next year than people may think and wouldnt surprise me to see them finish 10-13 range with all the talent they now have and another year

This is the deciding factor tbh, can Richmond walk away from the picks if negotiations get too tough, or likewise can Freo walkaway from Bolton et. al?

Might be a Freo bias thing, but Freo are in a stronger position here using that perspective. Outside looking in, Tigers fans seem extremely excited they are going to get the world purely because Freo have the currency, and Freo fans seem to want to only part with minimal currency... so it'll likely be somewhere in the middle.

 

[rgauci]

Based on instagram intelligence provided by s_wd6
Emmett (delisted)
Stanley (delisted)
Jones (extended)

That leaves Knobel as unknown.

Who is Jones?

 

[Jezzitizle]

.

Who is Jones?

Odin?

 

[THE_GUN]

You touched on it but your club is going interested in getting at least one extra future 1st and North's is going to be the best one up for grabs. It's just too many picks this year and if there's any club that can be patient to possibly get MAXIMUM value, it's Richmond. 5 or 6 picks top 20 picks in one draft is just not the best way to go about things IMO.

Everyone keeps expecting North to go up, yet down the bottom they stay and who else do you honestly think is more likely of being bottom 4? For North, pick 9 is more valuable than their future 1st if it means getting Houston. For Richmond, I'd have thought it's about getting as much value as possible and you cant possibly lose because North's pick is absolutely not going to be pick 9 next year, even if they improve.

I keep getting told by a Richmond supporter that the top 5 is where it's at and you wouldnt take the unloseable gamble to get one?

We will take 6/7 players this trade period
29,39,41,47,57,66,73 will be traded away for pick upgrades and Brisbanes 1st rounder

there wont be picks not used
If Richmond get #22 for Graham then both #21 & #22 are possibilities to be traded into next year but priority would be to get as high up this year as possible.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We will take 6/7 players this trade period
29,39,41,47,57,66,73 will be traded away for pick upgrades and Brisbanes 1st rounder

there wont be picks not used
If Richmond get #22 for Graham then both #21 & #22 are possibilities to be traded into next year but priority would be to get as high up this year as possible.

All that still reads to me like the smartest and best thing to do is to spread good value into next year but we'll see how trade period goes. Losing pick 9 for a likely top 5 pick next year seems a no brainer to me

 

[Cobbler]

If you dont mind me intruding and giving a richmond supporters opinion on this on your board

Richmond would rather picks in this years draft than in 2025 but early picks
If freo could haggle pick #2 from North in some way then that pick would be what we would be looking at

Richmond will be looking to move #21 into next year for a F1 possibly to Geelong or Pies maybe even Port
very good chance we will have pick #1 again and possibly pick #2 with Noah Balta as a free agent that would attract Mac Andrews level interest and with Dyson Sharp / Archie Ludowyke as the stand out mid and Fowards i dont know if Richmond will match that type of offer.

I also think North will be better next year than people may think and wouldnt surprise me to see them finish 10-13 range with all the talent they now have and another year

If we’re prepared to lose 9,10 and 16 anyway, I would certainly entertain whatever we could to extrapolate greater value first.

Just depends what domino needs to fall first.

 

[Big Animal]

If we’re prepared to lose 9,10 and 16 anyway, I would certainly entertain whatever we could to extrapolate greater value first.

Just depends what domino needs to fall first.

best value would be 9, 10, 16 and Switta for Kosi and Bolton. Done. Enjoy Christmas holidays.

 

[Cobbler]

Who is actually gonna take brodie

Eagles?

We’d accept a F4 probably?

Maybe an exchange of picks?

 

[Redgum]

They got to resign Knobel , he's got a big future and i hope it is with us. I see him a way better prospect then Reidy , so can't really work out why Reidy was resigned, I hope Knobel isn't part of some trade deal.

 

[Taylor]

Fremantle were looking to move one of the firsts into next year, I don't see a reason why that isn't still the case.

To me that's #9 and #16 to Richmond for Bolton and #29

Then #10 is offered to whomever wants it for a F1.

When Pickett comes back on the table that can change to #10 and a contracted player from us for him.

 

[THE_GUN]

All that still reads to me like the smartest and best thing to do is to spread good value into next year but we'll see how trade period goes. Losing pick 9 for a likely top 5 pick next year seems a no brainer to me

If i was Blair (he is a pretty good operator) why would i take that ? I would be saying he is contracted and the cost for Bolton is 9 & 10 and we are prepared to look at salary contribution. But not with the 9 & 16 i dont think freo would drop shai and even if they do keep him. then if he really wants the north pick he will just deal it himself.

Baker i would rather he goes to the eagles as i believe pick #3 is gettable with Baker but not without him
Baker + 10 + 39 ( for dev ) would get that done

If we’re prepared to lose 9,10 and 16 anyway, I would certainly entertain whatever we could to extrapolate greater value first.

Just depends what domino needs to fall first.

As freo should but im pretty sure the ground work has been done by the 2 clubs and well known what the expectations would be. Freo have tended to be hard asses trading out contracted players but have also payed the price bringing in heavily contracted players specially pieces they are desperate to get. Shai Bolton is a special player
Jye Amiss kicked 36.28 in a team that should have been top 4
Shai Bolton kicked 34.26 playing 60/40 mid foward in a crap team when he was checked out

He would be untouchable in the freo foward line
but you guys will see that next year anyway (if Eagles dont pull a shift and Mini gets the job)

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Fremantle were looking to move one of the firsts into next year, I don't see a reason why that isn't still the case.

To me that's #9 and #16 to Richmond for Bolton and #29

Then #10 is offered to whomever wants it for a F1.

Why, it's completely ridiculous list management unless they use that F1 immediately in a trade for a player? I'll be so angry if we head into next year with two firsts

 

[dont bowl there]

Fremantle were looking to move one of the firsts into next year, I don't see a reason why that isn't still the case.

To me that's #9 and #16 to Richmond for Bolton and #29

Then #10 is offered to whomever wants it for a F1.

Makes absolutely no sense to me why we would be doing this. We don't need to move another first to trade for Warner, aren't they allowing 2 years of future trading? So we already have 2025, 26 and 27 available.