List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[mayne iac]

Calm your farms people, kozi is the ultimate tyre kicker. Don't fall for this trickery.

 

[freo84]

My word on the street is that kysaiah Pickett to WA is still very real and there is no doubt that is the Pickett’s preferred option.

 

[Cobbler]

I would prioritise Pickett over Bolton if they're both available.

Pickett is more of a true small forward and would cause a ruckus in our forward line alongside Treacy. He's two years younger, his contract will be a lot less, and I'm concerned with Bolton's inconsistency. Bolton's form drop off this year has been huge (I don't buy into the theory, he only plays well in a winning team).

I'd hate for us to pay two first rounders in a strong draft and a massive chunk of salary for someone like Bolton who gets 10 possessions in a lot of matches. Pickett hits the scoreboard and has a massive presence in the forward line with his pressure and hardness.

How many matches is a lot?

Literally had 1 game last season under 10 possessions. 1st game of the season. Had 8 touches kicked 3 goals.

If we use a larger number, say 15 touches, he still only had 7 games with 15 touches or less. 4 of those were literally the last 4 games of the season where I’d imagine he had checked out.

Still kicked 11 goals from those 7 lower possession games.

 

[Taylor]

Both Bolton and Pickett impact at the stoppage.

 

[Alfonz]

I would prioritise Pickett over Bolton if they're both available.

Pickett is more of a true small forward and would cause a ruckus in our forward line alongside Treacy. He's two years younger, his contract will be a lot less, and I'm concerned with Bolton's inconsistency. Bolton's form drop off this year has been huge (I don't buy into the theory, he only plays well in a winning team).

I'd hate for us to pay two first rounders in a strong draft and a massive chunk of salary for someone like Bolton who gets 10 possessions in a lot of matches. Pickett hits the scoreboard and has a massive presence in the forward line with his pressure and hardness.

Bolton is just as good a true small forward as the best of them. It's just that he can also genuinely play midfield. Rankine is a similar type. Due to their greater versatility, I would take those two ahead of Pickett, Stengle, Papley, Cameron. But Pickett would be perfect to compliment Bolton.

Also remember that Pickett might not be interested without Bolton first. They are cousins, and a large selling point to get Pickett would be to play with Bolton.

 

[Cobbler]

I would prioritise Pickett over Bolton if they're both available.

Pickett is more of a true small forward and would cause a ruckus in our forward line alongside Treacy. He's two years younger, his contract will be a lot less, and I'm concerned with Bolton's inconsistency. Bolton's form drop off this year has been huge (I don't buy into the theory, he only plays well in a winning team).

I'd hate for us to pay two first rounders in a strong draft and a massive chunk of salary for someone like Bolton who gets 10 possessions in a lot of matches. Pickett hits the scoreboard and has a massive presence in the forward line with his pressure and hardness.

Pickett from 21 matches had 16 games with 15 touches or less.

They’re different players.

Both very valuable in different roles and both hit the scoreboard.

 

[freo84]

Both Bolton and Pickett impact at the stoppage.

I'd give every pick we've got for those 2...

 

[heypenny]

How many matches is a lot?

Literally had 1 game last season under 10 possessions. 1st game of the season. Had 8 touches kicked 3 goals.

If we use a larger number, say 15 touches, he still only had 7 games with 15 touches or less. 4 of those were literally the last 4 games of the season where I’d imagine he had checked out.

Still kicked 11 goals from those 7 lower possession games.

Haha - thanks for doing the research!

Clearly it was a big exaggeration, however my point is I'm concerned with giving away a lot of salary cap and draft capital (in a strong draft) for a low possession and inconsistent player. On Bolton's current contract, he could be our highest paid player which doesn't quite sit right.

I do like Bolton, and think he would be a great addition. But at the right price. We've been burnt so often in the past.

 

[Boomer93]

The biggest downside is Freo have been genuinely been caught a little on the back foot as the approach from Pickett’s management just happened out the blue.

The issue being Freo are now obviously been committed to Bolton, despite what is released in the media Freo has been aware of Bolton desire to return home since before the bye.

As for my source i 100% back this person in when it comes to Freo particularly around the indigenous circles.

Hectic. Would be wild to get both.

I'm not sure how being on the back foot would really matter when we have access to four first rounders and an early second.

 

[Cobbler]

Haha - thanks for doing the research!

Clearly it was a big exaggeration, however my point is I'm concerned with giving away a lot of salary cap and draft capital (in a strong draft) for a low possession and inconsistent player. On Bolton's current contract, he could be our highest paid player which doesn't quite sit right.

I do like Bolton, and think he would be a great addition. But at the right price. We've been burnt so often in the past.

I feel ya.

I once had a very dodgy chicken roll. Instant vomits. Was a good few years before I ever went a chicken roll again.

The moral is simple.

Never order chicken rolls if 14 year old are preparing your food.

Oh… and Bolton is a chicken roll worth buying. If it induces the vomits… well there’s always the next chicken roll.

 

[JammoMonty]

Plus on top of that Kozzie is just a much better fit for our list imo

Warner is bloody nice and one hell of a player but hes not exactly a position of need for our list. We are stacked with mids, and Chad is an offensively minded mid who plays downhill

When we were at our best early last season we had Young playing as a defensive mid who would sweep around the back of the contest or push forward once we won the ball.

As Young developed into statistically the most damaging mid in the comp as the season went on of course his role evolved to playing a more attacking role (as it should when you have a weapon like that). Which at times later in the year left us wanting defensively in the middle as we had noone to adequately fill that role (see - Essendon game, Geelong game, Port game etc).

Chad is a great player but doesn't fill that need for us. He just skews us even more offensively oriented out of the middle. And hopefully Erasmus or even Driz can play that role for us instead

Kozzie would be a legit game changer for us. Put him and Bolton at the feet of Treacy, Amiss and Jackson and thats just plain nasty. Costs less in trade capital, and less salary too.

Cost/benefit leans his way as far as im concerned and its not particularly close

Id love both, dont get me wrong. But if its either/or im going Pickett easy

Warner does fill that need for Freo. Have you been watching the finals series? That last quarter against GWS was huge. He is exactly what Freo need and given the chance Freo would be mad not to go all chips in on him.

 

[Taylor]

I'd give every pick we've got for those 2...

Convenient you say that. We can effectively offer a pick near ten and a mid teens first to each club.

If we can get a future second back from Melbourne and a future third back from Richmond it will solve the matching bid points for next year too

 

[Polo342]

Warner does fill that need for Freo. Have you been watching the finals series? That last quarter against GWS was huge. He is exactly what Freo need and given the chance Freo would be mad not to go all chips in on him.

I think the same can be said for Kozzy

 

[Silencer83]

My intuition is telling me this place is pretty keen for Kozzie...

Kozzie is the elite small forward we need.

Shai is the small forward you swing through stoppage, the Switta upgrade.

Bobby is closer to Liam Ryan, flashes of brilliance but low possession and goal a game.

 

[freo84]

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Kozzie is the elite small forward we need.

Shai is the small forward you swing through stoppage, the Switta upgrade.

Bobby is closer to Liam Ryan, flashes of brilliance but low possession and goal a game.

I was just having a laugh. He's my number 1 as well. Considering the cost and list needs, there is no WA linked player I'd rather have. Without knowing what's happening behind scenes, I don't understand why the response from the club would be anything other than "you apply the pressure, we'll get it done"

 

[stax on the mull]

Id love both, dont get me wrong. But if its either/or im going Pickett easy

I got a feeling you really are Suma, because Suma definitely says "don't get me wrong". If I see you say "I'll give you the tip" and "just a little bit of tinkering" then there'll be no doubt.

 

[Cobbler]

I was just having a laugh. He's my number 1 as well. Considering the cost and list needs, there is no WA linked player I'd rather have. Without knowing what's happening behind scenes, I don't understand why the response from the club would be anything other than "you apply the pressure, we'll get it done"

Baker all of a sudden becomes the spanner. I’d imagine the minute he selects Eagles the phone will be picked up.
The second Bolton is secured it will ramp up considerably.

 

[Paracleet]

Hot damn, strap yourselves in - we're in for a wild ride.

For future use in this situation type

 

[One_Wing]

We doing Kozzie Pickett again?

 

[Sewell21]

lol I’m in a bar in Melbourne and Shai just walked past me!

You should have handed him you phone and told him to read and post in this thread.

 

[DocT]

lol I’m in a bar in Melbourne and Shai just walked past me!

You need to work on your tackling!

 

[Joao]

I'm not getting carried away but...

If we got Bolton and Kossie, I'd absolutely do Baker as well for whatever is left since we wouldn't have the assets for Chad next year anyway.

 

[wakojako]

I'm not getting carried away but...

If we got Bolton and Kossie, I'd absolutely do Baker as well for whatever is left since we wouldn't have the assets for Chad next year anyway.

Not with that attitude we don't.

 

[Joao]

Not with that attitude we don't.

Give up 2026 and 2027 1st meaning 6 straight years with no 1st rounder...