List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[s_wd6]

Our last top 10 pick was Neil Erasmus, why do people assume it'll be Caleb Serong? Serong is an anomaly, not the norm

An anomaly like Young and Amiss? Our two top 10 picks before that?

 

[CapitalA]

Our last top 10 pick was Neil Erasmus, why do people assume it'll be Caleb Serong

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Caleb Serong

Age

23

Ht

180cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

5star

CL

2.6

4star

D

13.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

? Serong is an anomaly, not the norm

And Jye Amiss, is he an anomaly too?

 

[Joao]

Young at 7?

If you take Henry out (which is fair enough as a bid), we've nailed them all except arguably Logue.

 

[kp junior]

This is a strong draft apparently so we need to be comfortable getting Bolton and Richmond using the pick on a Serong/Young caliber prospect who will play for the Tigers for years. Or 2 of them would you’re that way inclined.



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[Taylor]

This is a strong draft apparently so we need to be comfortable getting Bolton and Richmond using the pick on a Serong/Young caliber prospect who will play for the Tigers for years. Or 2 of them would you’re that way inclined.



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Imagine they pick a WA player and we get them back for cheaper than the pick they took them with in three years time

 

[Dockeroo]

Imagine they pick a WA player and we get them back for cheaper than the pick they took them with in three years time

The only WA prospect in the range is Bo Allan and he’s more 15-18 range from what I can see.
When you look at the phantoms there’s actually a lot of decent players that were well hyped early in the season like smillie, travaglia and trainor sliding into the early teens

 

[Alfonz]

This is a strong draft apparently so we need to be comfortable getting Bolton and Richmond using the pick on a Serong/Young caliber prospect who will play for the Tigers for years. Or 2 of them would you’re that way inclined.



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It sounds like it is more an even/deep draft through to later picks, rather than a strong draft at the top end. It may well be that 15-30 ends up better than 1-15. I'm not fussed about giving up 9+10 versus 9+16 for Bolton. I actually prefer 9+10 and extra salary paid, and rate Hannaford higher than Berry for example.

The draft could be similar to 2016, where most of the top 30 have had reasonable careers, but not too many stellar careers and only 1 star (McCLuggage) in the top 10. And it just so happens Bolton was the best player in that top 30 at 29. Then Cox, Darcy, Stewart, Daicos, Ryan, Larkey, Marshall, Zurharr, Jack Henry later. We nailed that draft in the back end.

Let's ignore the F/S, compo picks. Imagine if Richmond get players of the quality of McGrath, Petrevski-Seton, Brodie and Bowes as per their 2016 draft positions at 1, 6, 9, 10. Would be a disaster. There could be some similar sorts on offer with Smith/FOS sounding a bit like McGrath to me, then Langford/Smillie sounding a bit like Brodie/Bowes.

 

[CapitalA]

It sounds like it is more an even/deep draft through to later picks, rather than a strong draft at the top end. It may well be that 15-30 ends up better than 1-15. I'm not fussed about giving up 9+10 versus 9+16 for Bolton. I actually prefer 9+10 and extra salary paid, and rate Hannaford higher than Berry for example.

The draft could be similar to 2016, where most of the top 30 have had reasonable careers, but not too many stellar careers and only 1 star (McCLuggage) in the top 10. And it just so happens Bolton was the best player in that top 30 at 29. Then Cox, Darcy, Stewart, Daicos, Ryan, Larkey, Marshall, Zurharr, Jack Henry later. We nailed that draft in the back end.

Let's ignore the F/S, compo picks. Imagine if Richmond get players of the quality of McGrath, Petrevski-Seton, Brodie and Bowes as per their 2016 draft positions at 1, 6, 9, 10. Would be a disaster. There could be some similar sorts on offer with Smith/FOS sounding a bit like McGrath to me, then Langford/Smillie sounding a bit like Brodie/Bowes.

Yeah and it could be a 2019 draft lol, I don't think 2016 was considered a strong draft coming in to it...

 

[Docker82]

Our last top 10 pick was Neil Erasmus, why do people assume it'll be Caleb Serong? Serong is an anomaly, not the norm

It's not and never has been about the first three years of someone's career.

Let's just see with Erasmus.

 

[fnerd]

If they get McQualter/any other coach that Baker "approves" of and Baker chooses West Coast, you have the easy "Liam Baker chose your coach" attack, whether it played a part or not.

Oh don’t worry I’m sincerely hoping it’s this one
I’ve already got my disparaging pay outs locked and loaded for the WC supporters once the decision comes out

 

[Vimal Anand]

Even Tiger fans think freo shouldn't do pick 10 for baker


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[Docker82]

Young at 7?

If you take Henry out (which is fair enough as a bid), we've nailed them all except arguably Logue.

This is exactly why the 'draft is a lottery' is a really dumb statement.

Get the better picks and the chances of getting a good player is massive tbh. Beyond that it progressively the probability of getting a good player gets worse and worse. Clubs literally invest millions to recruit the best players possible - imagine where that'd get you in an actual lottery.

Having said that the only risk of recruiting a player that's already good and reasonably young (i.e Bolton) is that a draft pick does much better than expected not that they might do as expected (Maybe unforseen things like injuries).

If you look at the top ten of Logue's draft there is worse players than him btw. Don't think Carlton bid for Henry if we'd left the option to not match the bid tbh - w**nkers.

 

[JammoMonty]

Young at 7?

If you take Henry out (which is fair enough as a bid), we've nailed them all except arguably Logue.

Logue is a Freo cooked that big time

 

[Vimal Anand]

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[wakojako]

Logue is a Freo cooked that big time

You got any juice on Pickett?

 

[s_wd6]

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God I really want to believe we’re not stupid enough to give 10 for Baker

Unfortunately I have no faith in that so I’m just praying Baker saves us from ourselves here.

 

[s_wd6]

God I really want to believe we’re not stupid enough to give 10 for Baker

Unfortunately I have no faith in that so I’m just praying Baker saves us from ourselves here.

But also that from Ralph makes no sense. We won’t give 9,10 for Bolton because we want to save 10 for Baker? So Richmond will get 9,10,16 for them both. But we can use 9,10 for Bolton and then give 16 for Baker and it’s the exact same return lol tf

 

[Farrand]

Logue is a Freo cooked that big time

Wasn't a strong draft in general though. Brodie was the next pick. We were never taking English. Best player taken at 66. Can't fault Freo there.

 

[fnerd]

Imagine if Richmond get players of the quality of McGrath, Petrevski-Seton, Brodie and Bowes as per their 2016 draft positions at 1, 6, 9, 10. Would be a disaster.

Would be glorious if you ask me .

After reading 95% of their supporters incessant over valuing of their players to the point of absolute delusion I would think that’s more than palatable outcome for all involved

But we can use 9,10 for Bolton and then give 16 for Baker and it’s the exact same return lol tf

It’s Ralph, what do you expect