List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[s_wd6]

Hi I come in peace.

Would a Jack Carroll for Nat O'Driscoll trade work for you guys (he is from the East Fremantle Sharks Footy Factory)

Jc is actually a quality wing/mid type than can push foward and kick goals.

Beats me why Vossy doesn't rate him.

Seems like Longmuir doesn't rate O'Driscoll for similar(stubborn) reasons ?

Could be a win/win for both players and clubs ?

Leave our players alone. Also NOD is well rated. Just been injured.

 

[apuchar]

Hi I come in peace.

Would a Jack Carroll for Nat O'Driscoll trade work for you guys (he is from the East Fremantle Sharks Footy Factory)

Jc is actually a quality wing/mid type than can push foward and kick goals.

Beats me why Vossy doesn't rate him.

Seems like Longmuir doesn't rate O'Driscoll for similar(stubborn) reasons ?

Could be a win/win for both players and clubs ?

He was injured, so we don't know if Justin rates him or not. He brought him in as soon as he was close to Afl fit, so that might suggest something

 

[FreoBraddles]

Hi I come in peace.

Would a Jack Carroll for Nat O'Driscoll trade work for you guys (he is from the East Fremantle Sharks Footy Factory)

Jc is actually a quality wing/mid type than can push foward and kick goals.

Beats me why Vossy doesn't rate him.

Seems like Longmuir doesn't rate O'Driscoll for similar(stubborn) reasons ?

Could be a win/win for both players and clubs ?

I'm going to say no, and think that's probably going to be the consensus here.

NOD has just gotten back to full fitness and pushed his way into the team - with no inside knowledge I think he's rated internally but been unlucky due to injury niggles over the past two years.

I think next year he pushes into our 23 if he stays fit and available.

Think Carroll more likely to be WC bound if he heads west.

Plus, after Acres joined you guys I couldn't handle seeing both wings being filled by ex Dockers

 

[Gussman]

Longmuir rates O'Driscoll. Has played him before when he was out of form (2023). One of the reasons we seemed okay with letting Acres go was because of O'Driscoll. Erasmus and Brodie have been tearing the WAFL apart and he wasn't able to break into Freo's midfield because of how Longmuir likes it set up, but he found a spot for O'Driscoll.

 

[Alfonz]

Hi I come in peace.

Would a Jack Carroll for Nat O'Driscoll trade work for you guys (he is from the East Fremantle Sharks Footy Factory)

Jc is actually a quality wing/mid type than can push foward and kick goals.

Beats me why Vossy doesn't rate him.

Seems like Longmuir doesn't rate O'Driscoll for similar(stubborn) reasons ?

Could be a win/win for both players and clubs ?

First preference is definitely to keep NOD. But if he wanted out, then I think Carroll is a reasonably fair replacement.

However, it would make me feel ill to see someone who bleeds purple running around for Carlton.

Maybe a 3-way for Carroll-NOD-Garcia. Dogs have been chasing O'Driscoll. You get Garcia. I don't know if he wants to come back to WA, but he's got to be better than some/all of Durdin, Motlop, Owies, Fantasia. Some on here want him at Freo, but I don't think he'd be interested if we have Bolton, Switta, Freddy and possibly Baker.

 

[Nodgey]

I’m so tired of people pretending the JOM trade was decent just because he’s been “ok” at his role. It’s an objectively pointless trade and didn’t do anything to improve us.

You can’t convince me that Johnson or Erasmus wouldn’t have done an equal job in the same role if they were given continuity and invincibility there like JOM is

100% And I'd add Aish as another who could and was performing that role equally or better.

 

[Stinky Lomax]

Don't agree with the premise that anyone who has work related injuries owes anything at all

Slightly different in this industry. Perhaps that mentality is the difference between us & a team like Geelong.
Our culture can’t be as good as we think if a player walks when offered a similar contract to another club in these circumstances.
That was the point.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Well, if that's the case then they simply won't bring him in. As if they would bring in Stringer (who will be finished soon anyway) and let Warner go.

Seems reasonable list management to me. Let the player go a year earlier (who has said he's absolutely leaving no matter what) bring in some high picks a year earlier to develop them faster, replace all of the forward impact with a similar player and use a deep midfield to replace his midfield impact.

Ideally you're keeping Warner but there's limits to anything.

 

[MadMundy]

Damn people here are genuinely convinced O'Driscoll will leave? Damn I thought some of you were better than that.

 

[Swiggy]

Damn people here are genuinely convinced O'Driscoll will leave? Damn I thought some of you were better than that.

same with Switta

 

[Swiggy]

First preference is definitely to keep NOD. But if he wanted out, then I think Carroll is a reasonably fair replacement.

However, it would make me feel ill to see someone who bleeds purple running around for Carlton.

Maybe a 3-way for Carroll-NOD-Garcia. Dogs have been chasing O'Driscoll. You get Garcia. I don't know if he wants to come back to WA, but he's got to be better than some/all of Durdin, Motlop, Owies, Fantasia. Some on here want him at Freo, but I don't think he'd be interested if we have Bolton, Switta, Freddy and possibly Baker.

don't think baker is coming to freo

 

[nurries]

Damn people here are genuinely convinced O'Driscoll will leave? Damn I thought some of you were better than that.

Well he is a winger

 

[DragoDelph]

same with Switta

Switta was looking, and changed his mind.

 

[MadMundy]

Well he is a winger

True, however there's zero evidence to suggest he wants to leave or will leave, so people are just going around making ideas up in their heads.

Until an official trade request comes in, as far as I'm concerned he's re-signing.

 

[s_wd6]

Switta was looking, and changed his mind.

Wasn’t that just changing his mind on Melbourne? Because who would want to go there

 

[DragoDelph]

Wasn’t that just changing his mind on Melbourne? Because who would want to go there

That was the original thought, but would indicate maybe there wasn’t anyone else?

Maybe someone comes up late.

 

[Big Animal]

Not really. He's out of contract next year, so he can move next year with less hesitation and resistance.

Not sure why people seem to think it's gonna happen this season. 0 chance

love a good strawman.

 

[freo_leo29]

Where has this myth that Riley garcia is fast come from?

Can't say I've ever seen that watching him, he's a short slow inside mid with average skills, does tackle tho

Had to check draft profiles just in case, nothing about speed

He's your classic vfl player that probably doesn't make the step up, we've already got 2 of them on our list at Peel

 

[Swiggy]

Where has this myth that Riley garcia is fast come from?

Can't say I've ever seen that watching him, he's a short slow inside mid with average skills, does tackle tho

Had to check draft profiles just in case, nothing about speed

He's your classic vfl player that probably doesn't make the step up, we've already got 2 of them on our list at Peel

From watching him play. he moves well

 

[Joao]

True, however there's zero evidence to suggest he wants to leave or will leave, so people are just going around making ideas up in their heads.

Until an official trade request comes in, as far as I'm concerned he's re-signing.

Being OOC and talking about waiting till the end of the season to work through contracts is as good evidence you'll get for a low profile player about to leave.

It's not definitive, but it is evidence.

 

[Cobbler]

Longmuir was irate with the umpires, not Fyfe. I was at that game and everyone in the crowd went berserk at the decision because Fyfe clearly had no idea it was a free kick. Fyfe is about the last person in the competition to be trying to take an advantage in the F50 due to the lack of faith he now has in his own skills.

Strongly disagree.

 

[Alfonz]

Where has this myth that Riley garcia is fast come from?

Can't say I've ever seen that watching him, he's a short slow inside mid with average skills, does tackle tho

Had to check draft profiles just in case, nothing about speed

He's your classic vfl player that probably doesn't make the step up, we've already got 2 of them on our list at Peel

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On the 20m sprint:
"Riley Garcia would have been a shot in this test if not for a knee injury (he has previously tested at 2.91 seconds)."

 

[dont bowl there]

Problem with Garcia is he's an inside mid and he would be about 6th in line if he came here, it just doesn't make any sense. This isn't a Mannah who was playing High half forward in the VFL, every time I have seen Garcia play in the VFL it's been as a pure inside midfielder. Someone mentioned he was shifted to the half back line later in the season but I didn't get to see any of that.

 

[Swiggy]

Problem with Garcia is he's an inside mid and he would be about 6th in line if he came here, it just doesn't make any sense. This isn't a Mannah who was playing High half forward in the VFL, every time I have seen Garcia play in the VFL it's been as a pure inside midfielder. Someone mentioned he was shifted to the half back line later in the season but I didn't get to see any of that.

played half forward for dogs when played afl level

 

[dont bowl there]

played half forward for dogs when played afl level

Can't say he was overly impressive in that role. He would be a decent enough Switta replacement if he left I guess.