List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Bicco]

Don’t see it that way myself. Ashcroft is probably the best in the draft and deserves to go at 1
Richmond can offer to “help” Brisbane by not taking him at 1.

No blackmail just an offer to help

If that's done in the business world it's called collusion and is highly illegal.

 

[nurries]

If that's done in the business world it's called collusion and is highly illegal.

It’s more like Cartel behaviour of rigging bids

 

[Docker82]

Previous post you say we should draft Allan and right after you push a case for trading in experienced players? Colour me confused.

I want a balance between the two tbh. I still think we can bring in Bolton and hold at least two top 30 picks post trade period.

I think I’ve been quite consistent with that view over the last few months even if I sometimes only talk about one of mature aged players or draft picks in a post.

The only exception to the above is when Kozzie Pickett rumours started and I was sort of like ‘**** it - Kozzie and Bolton would be so good’. I only want mature aged guns or B Graders that fit our team perfectly, otherwise I’m reasonably happy to go to the draft. Best available first up (just not talls), needs later is the best strategy assuming Bolton comes in IMO - I don’t think small forward is that far ahead of midfield and HBF if you look at it from a what we need in three years perspective rather than what we need now.

 

[King Huskii]

He surfs too?

And cuts other people's grass better

 

[Polo342]

Does the absence of CTD on here make us think that something else is brewing this week

 

[Tony_Clifton]

My other prejudice against Bolton is that he seems like an old school docker. Capable of the sublime and the inexplicable on a week to week basis.

 

[Ge3ks]

And cuts other people's grass better

 

[Sturty2Hurty]

I lean towards taking one top 20 pick to the draft. Tigers for example picked up Bolton during the middle of their window.

 

[Ge3ks]

I want a balance between the two tbh. I still think we can bring in Bolton and hold at least two top 30 picks post trade period.

I think I’ve been quite consistent with that view over the last few months even if I sometimes only talk about one of mature aged players or draft picks in a post.

The only exception to the above is when Kozzie Pickett rumours started and I was sort of like ‘**** it - Kozzie and Bolton would be so good’. I only want mature aged guns or B Graders that fit our team perfectly, otherwise I’m reasonably happy to go to the draft. Best available first up (just not talls), needs later is the best strategy assuming Bolton comes in IMO - I don’t think small forward is that far ahead of midfield and HBF if you look at it from a what we need in three years perspective rather than what we need now.

Yeah I tend to agree. Bring in an established star and take a punt on a top end draft prospect. Best of both worlds.

 

[arsesmart]

If you are really asking and this is not some passive aggressive wank then

It was against us this year down the train station end and he already had four so I’m tipping 3rd or 4th quarter


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Getting a bit defensive there?

Just wanting to have a look to get a gauge on it is all. Calling it passive:aggressive is a bit random.

 

[kp junior]

Bolton history - Darren was the first Peel player to play for Freo if memory serves. Not that Shai will likely play a lot of games for Peel.


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[Cobbler]

I lean towards taking one top 20 pick to the draft. Tigers for example picked up Bolton during the middle of their window.

Yes, at pick 29…

 

[malpaso]

Am I the only one who would prefer we just hold onto the picks and select another three first rounders?

The accepted wisdom is you build your list from the draft and then pivot to trading in when you're entering your window to maximise a push to the summit. This strategy appears to suit the aggressive goal setting from management.

I'd prefer to to simply making value based decisions rather than trying to time the market.

Bolton will be 26 next year. He's played 135 games over 8 seasons. Optimistically We would get 6 years and 120 games out of Bolton. I think there is more long term value in picks 9&10 or 9&16.

AFL is a funny business where winning a premiership is all that ever matters. It makes arguments like overpaying for Bolton is the right play given our window. For what it's worth, Brisbane's premiership team had one first year player, two second year players and two third year players.

I'd prefer to get Bolton with a first rounder and a F1, then draft two first round picks this year.

 

[Joao]

I'd prefer to get Bolton with a first rounder and a F1, then draft two first round picks this year.

I'd say there is near zero chance we trade our F1 if we think Chad is coming next year.

 

[freo1997]

Does the absence of CTD on here make us think that something else is brewing this week

Probably has a life.

 

[Ge3ks]

Yes, at pick 29…

Shows what a gamble the draft is.
Swans just delisted their 2022 pick #27

Swans cut three after run to Grand Final

The Swans have announced three list changes

www.afl.com.au

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Shows what a gamble the draft is.
Swans just delisted their 2022 pick #27

Swans cut three after run to Grand Final

The Swans have announced three list changes

www.afl.com.au

It is a gamble but our recent history shows it's one of the things our club is actually very good at.

 

[Docker82]

Shows what a gamble the draft is.
Swans just delisted their 2022 pick #27

Swans cut three after run to Grand Final

The Swans have announced three list changes

www.afl.com.au

The guy was a hawthorn NGA that didn’t make it past pick 40. Sydney doesn’t get everything right and neither does any team.

 

[dominguez]

The fact it’s so even is why I can see us splitting 10 with Sydney or GWS, they both have pretty stacked lists, so if someone they really want is still on the board at our pick, I can see 19 & 22 being offered by them, just depends on if walls thinks two of his targets will still be at those picks or not.

Sydney aren't going to do us any favours knowing we're trying to poach The Chad.

 

[dominguez]

What's with all the love for Allen?

Surely we have more pressing needs with half backs, small and mid sized forwards?


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191cm mid/HB from WA that seems to find time and space with good ball use and a leader. What's not to like?

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Sydney aren't going to do us any favours knowing we're trying to poach The Chad.

We already owe Sydney. Did us a huge favour signing Logan. Imagine we were giving 10 and 11 for him and paying him 1m a year.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

191cm mid/HB from WA that seems to find time and space with good ball use and a leader. What's not to like?

If he's a good user I'm all for it. Just thought I'd seen people saying it was a big deficiency.

 

[dominguez]

Am I the only one who would prefer we just hold onto the picks and select another three first rounders?

The accepted wisdom is you build your list from the draft and then pivot to trading in when you're entering your window to maximise a push to the summit. This strategy appears to suit the aggressive goal setting from management.

I'd prefer to to simply making value based decisions rather than trying to time the market.

Bolton will be 26 next year. He's played 135 games over 8 seasons. Optimistically We would get 6 years and 120 games out of Bolton. I think there is more long term value in picks 9&10 or 9&16.

AFL is a funny business where winning a premiership is all that ever matters. It makes arguments like overpaying for Bolton is the right play given our window. For what it's worth, Brisbane's premiership team had one first year player, two second year players and two third year players.

We beat both Grand Finalists this year and lost to the preliminary finalists by a kick. Our time is now. The likes of Neil Erasmus and Cooper Simpson were early picks and can't get a game. Sam Sturt was a first round pick 5 years ago and just became a regular.

Does going to the draft with 3 first rounders make us a better side in 2030? Absolutely. But we've been rebuilding for a decade, strike while the iron is hot.

If Shai Bolton was at Freo this year and kicked the same number of goals he did at the wooden spooners we finish top 4 IMO.

 

[Sewell21]

I really glad those compo picks came in where they did. I don’t mind us trading 11 & 18, but 10 & 16 was i bridge to far for me. /s

 

[dominguez]

I'd prefer to get Bolton with a first rounder and a F1, then draft two first round picks this year.

Then what happens if Warner wants to come home next year? We'd have to trade Brayshaw/Darcy/Cox to bring in a pick.