List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Tony_Clifton]

We don’t have 2-3 years for players to come good.

If we have Bolton this year it’s likely we are top 4

Are we not going to exist in 2 -3 years?
Also Bolton averaged 1.5gpg. and the player he's replacing averages 0.9. that's a difference of 3-4 points.

Bolton is obviously much better and I haven't looked into score involvements and gone deeper. I assume Shai would be ahead in a number of categories but I merely want our chase of Shai to be based on reason.

 

[thistimeforsure]

Just doesn't work that way anymore

Every prem team in recent memory has traded in players

I hear this a lot when talking about this

Has any team been brave enough to just stick to the draft ?


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[King Huskii]

Waaaay better and smarter clubs than Freo are breaking their necks to get as many picks in this draft as they can

But not good old Freo

We know better

“ picks you say ? “

“ you want picks ? “

“ we got picks maaaate “

“ heaps of picks “


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Why are you acting like a whining bitch

 

[freo_leo29]

2024 - Brissy already answered
2023 - Pies, Howe, Frampton, Hill, Titch, Cameron, Crisp
2022 - Jez, Danger (don't need to check for more after those 2 lol)
2021 - May, Brown
2017,2019, 2020 - Lynch, Prestia, Caddy (no Lynch in 17)
2018 - Redden, Kennedy, Jetta, Cripps
2016 - Hammer, Biggs, Boyd

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

I hear this a lot when talking about this

Has any team been brave enough to just stick to the draft ?


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Gold Coast?

 

[freo_leo29]

I hear this a lot when talking about this

Has any team been brave enough to just stick to the draft ?


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its not brave because players eventually get fed up with waiting on development and walk out

you become a revolving door of exits (something we have been pretty close too, luckily the majority lost haven't been key pieces)

 

[Tony_Clifton]

Not comparable,

I'm not comparing where Hawthorns list was at. I'm comparing players and Chad Wingard was the half forward pushing into the midfield star that we see in Shai.

 

[wakojako]

I'd say there is near zero chance we trade our F1 if we think Chad is coming next year.

And that's the issue.

 

[thistimeforsure]

Why are you acting like a whining bitch

Are you stupid ?

I don’t wanna trade all them picks for Shia ****ing Bolton


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[Jezzitizle]

What a ridiculous discussion.

Bolton will immediately be our number one small forward. Great move to get him.

 

[King Huskii]

Are you stupid ?

I don’t wanna trade all them picks for Shia ****ing Bolton


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Yeah I'm stupid and you still being a whiny bitch over nothing because you have zero idea what Freo’s final offer will be and who they are also targeting in this year's draft.

 

[Purpletown]

Does the absence of CTD on here make us think that something else is brewing this week

Who or what is CTD please ?

 

[Tony_Clifton]

Yeah I'm stupid and you still being a whiny bitch over nothing because you have zero idea what Freo’s final offer will be and who they are also targeting in this year's draft.

Why would you want to give up afl, bigfooty and exchanges like today?

 

[chaosball32]

I'm not comparing where Hawthorns list was at. I'm comparing players and Chad Wingard was the half forward pushing into the midfield star that we see in Shai.

Well that’s a disingenuous comparison then because you have to factor in the club they are being traded to and the position they are in. A Rolls Royce isn’t going to look as good in the driveway of a crack den as it would in the driveway of a mansion.

The Wingard and Bolton comparisons in isolation still don’t make sense regardless considering Wingard was looking like a future superstar of the comp before a mixture of injuries and poor work ethic derailed his career. Bolton is still performing at a very high level even in one of the worst teams of all time.

 

[mattis117]

Pretty funny how the narrative has been spun that it's a super draft. Not sure if people fully realise but it's part of Walls remit right now to make people believe the draft is the best one since 2019.

Pretty funny watching people get sucked into the narrative. No situational awareness.

This is an even draft. A super draft cannot be determined until 4 to 5 years after it actually happened. The 2020 draft looked good too, turned out to be one of the worst in ages.

Ahem, what am I saying. Apologies Richmond supporters, it's a generational draft. Move along.

 

[Tony_Clifton]

Well that’s a disingenuous comparison

I see. Lachie Neale is a much better comparison than Chad Wingard.

 

[Azz 27]

I could be cheeky and retort with Jesse Hogan but in terms of similarity I'm gonna go with Chad Wingard.

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The attitude is similar.

Apparently he upset Yze this year by not following his game plan

 

[freo_leo29]

Are you stupid ?

I don’t wanna trade all them picks for Shia ****ing Bolton


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its only gonna be 2 of the picks

we get the best of both worlds, draft and trade

 

[Tony_Clifton]

Ahem, what am I saying. Apologies Richmond supporters, it's a generational draft. Move along.

I'd argue that every draft is a generational draft.

 

[freo_leo29]

Pretty funny how the narrative has been spun that it's a super draft. Not sure if people fully realise but it's part of Walls remit right now to make people believe the draft is the best one since 2019.

Pretty funny watching people get sucked into the narrative. No situational awareness.

This is an even draft. A super draft cannot be determined until 4 to 5 years after it actually happened. The 2020 draft looked good too, turned out to be one of the worst in ages.

Ahem, what am I saying. Apologies Richmond supporters, it's a generational draft. Move along.

It's been a super draft from long before we were handing our picks to Richmond

Why is it so hard for people to believe that recruiters rate this draft?


Our main issue is we are ready for an immediate hit, Bolton brings that for 6+ years

 

[chaosball32]

I see. Lachie Neale is a much better comparison than Chad Wingard.

In terms of the trade itself, the position of the clubs at the respective times, and the list needs, yes, the Neale trade is more comparable to the Bolton trade than the Wingard trade. And even if you are looking at solely the player like you are, Bolton is a much better player now then Wingard was when Hawthorn traded for him.

Anyway this is going around in circles, there is a reason you are in the minority with your viewpoint. You cannot build a premiership team solely off drafting, it just doesn’t happen.

 

[apuchar]

Who or what is CTD please ?

Carnthedockers. Our itk. Or one of them

 

[malpaso]

I hear this a lot when talking about this

Has any team been brave enough to just stick to the draft ?


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We've done that

 

[malpaso]

I'm not comparing where Hawthorns list was at. I'm comparing players and Chad Wingard was the half forward pushing into the midfield star that we see in Shai.

Comparing Bolton with the world's largest seagull is not what you were looking for..

 

[Tony_Clifton]

In terms of the trade itself, the position of the clubs at the respective times, and the list needs, yes, the Neale trade is more comparable to the Bolton trade then the Wingard trade

Why you keep trying to sell me? I already said the player comparison is the most similar