List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[Snuffaluphagus]

Bolton early keeps the door open for Pickett

 

[Vimal Anand]

That last bit about Angus Brayshaw was disturbing.

I think that's why I think it is a fake ITK. That line was unnecessary in this context. He added that line to get credibility

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[Vintage]

Whatever happens this trade period, I’ll be ok provided we have someone’s 2025 first to death ride.

Having Richmond’s 2025 second rounder would be nice too, but doesn’t feel like much of a death ride.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Banfield, Fyfe, Walters, JoM and Aish played 100 games last season.

Fyfe had his best year in 5, and didn't get injured, and still barely held a spot in the 22.
Walters really slowed towards the end of the year. Unlikely to best 22.
Aish was dropped from best 22.
Banfield was dropped, and not in best 22.
JoM held a spot in the 22 just, another year older I don't see him improving.



I really think only JoM should be near the best 22 next year, with no injuries, but this means we either need to have no injuries, bring in 2 or 3 players which seems unlikely, or find 2 or 3 draftees who can hit the ground running, once again unlikely unless we snag a mature age player.

If can't replace them, we could take a step backwards next year, until our bottom 5 players are good enough. (Hopefully this doesn't happen)


How many games do each of them play?
Who replaces them?

Here is my shot.

Banfield 5 to 10
Fyfe - 5 to 10
Walters - 1 to 5
JoM - 15
Aish - 5

Leaves roughly 60 games to fill.

Bolton 20
Small forward - 20 games - Pickett, Berry, Richards or ... (Need to add two small forwards to the list)
NOD - 10 more games
Erasmus 10+ games - should play all games Fyfe doesn't.

 

[arsesmart]

Banfield, Fyfe, Walters, JoM and Aish played 100 games last season.

Fyfe had his best year in 5, and didn't get injured, and still barely held a spot in the 22.
Walters really slowed towards the end of the year. Unlikely to best 22.
Aish was dropped from best 22.
Banfield was dropped, and not in best 22.
JoM held a spot in the 22 just, another year older I don't see him improving.



I really think only JoM should be near the best 22 next year, with no injuries, but this means we either need to have no injuries, bring in 2 or 3 players which seems unlikely, or find 2 or 3 draftees who can hit the ground running, once again unlikely unless we snag a mature age player.

If can't replace them, we could take a step backwards next year, until our bottom 5 players are good enough. (Hopefully this doesn't happen)


How many games do each of them play?
Who replaces them?

Here is my shot.

Banfield 5 to 10
Fyfe - 5 to 10
Walters - 1 to 5
JoM - 15
Aish - 5

Leaves roughly 60 games to fill.

Bolton 20
Small forward - 20 games - Pickett, Berry, Richards or ... (Need to add two small forwards to the list)
NOD - 10 more games
Erasmus 10+ games - should play all games Fyfe doesn't.

I could easily see O'Meara improving, how likely that is I'm not sure.

Whatever people think of him, Fyfe was a core part of a midfield that produced elite results this year. There's no reason he couldn't replicate his role next year... maybe in a reduced minutes kind of way.

We can only hope Erasmus demands a spot by his performances. I also think it's very important to add someone like O'Driscoll to the core midfield options.

 

[wakojako]

Melb ITK reckons Kozzie 100% staying now

He is clearly open to a move but maybe not 100% committed. Having a child recently and with both parent support networks in WA, you would think he has very strong incentive to return home.

If Walls is any good at his job as list manager (not talent scout), then we should expect him and the team to prioritise Pickett (after Bolton is done) and court Pickett's family hard this September to convince them to request a trade. If he doesn't pursue him then people need to stop treating Walls as the messiah.

Also if it is true that Pickett keeps asking about a return home every year and then changing his mind, you are now a dad. People are relying on you and have expectations. It is time to make a commitment and do what's best for your family, whatever that is.

 

[oldgoat]

Why are people now acting like Pickett is off the table? Have there been any official statements or anything from journos? Or just some random poster on a forum?

Trac is staying.
Who wouldnt want to play with Trac?
Maybe Oliver has been asked where he would like to go next year?

 

[go_the_dockers]

I could easily see O'Meara improving, how likely that is I'm not sure.

Whatever people think of him, Fyfe was a core part of a midfield that produced elite results this year. There's no reason he couldn't replicate his role next year... maybe in a reduced minutes kind of way.

We can only hope Erasmus demands a spot by his performances. I also think it's very important to add someone like O'Driscoll to the core midfield options.

I doubt Fyfe is a good next year, and he has no injuries.

 

[oldgoat]

He is clearly open to a move but maybe not 100% committed. Having a child recently and with both parent support networks in WA, you would think he has very strong incentive to return home.

If Walls is any good at his job as list manager (not talent scout), then we should expect him and the team to prioritise Pickett (after Bolton is done) and court Pickett's family hard this September to convince them to request a trade. If he doesn't pursue him then people need to stop treating Walls as the messiah.

Also if it is true that Pickett keeps asking about a return home every year and then changing his mind, you are now a dad. People are relying on you and have expectations. It is time to make a commitment and do what's best for your family, whatever that is.

Walls is not the Messiah...
But he is a Very Clever Boy!

 

[Mr Cheese]

No but for real, the Pickett stuff is 100% up in the air until literally confirmed either way. To counter the Melbourne guy, someone else just told me a Demons player thinks he's gone.

No one knows, it's all guesswork at the moment

And I like your guesswork better!

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[JammoMonty]

Bolton early keeps the door open for Pickett and or Warner

I know there is a few weeks until the trade period opens, but this trade is far from finalised.

 

[greatgatsby]

And I like your guesswork better!

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I think we can get it over the line with sheer force of will.

 

[arsesmart]

I doubt Fyfe is a good next year, and he has no injuries.

Maybe, but that's still in the tea leaves. His role can be tailored to where he's at. As long as he can play a valuable role for the team, which I'd be confident he can (luck willing) for at least a good part of next year.

 

[Cobbler]

Football teams and the Titanic are totally related for my analogy.

When jumping ship, it’s best to get in first.

With that analogy, backed by strong evidence, Pickett to Freo is a mere formality.

The ship has already hit an iceberg. They’re taking on water. Gawn is going to go down with the ship. Viney too.

Petracca will jump next year.

Kosi will jump this year ‘children first’

Bank it.

 

[Sturty2Hurty]

I know there is a few weeks until the trade period opens, but this trade is far from finalised.

Reminds me when Cerra was gone for an entire year and we spent trade week haggling over a 3rd

 

[kp junior]

Maybe, but that's still in the tea leaves. His role can be tailored to where he's at. As long as he can play a valuable role for the team, which I'd be confident he can (luck willing) for at least a good part of next year.

I doubt he would want to change anything re his offseason, given he had his healthiest year in a long time this season, but I would love to see Fyfe losing 5kg and training to get some mobility back. Would be quite the risk however.

 

[arsesmart]

Football teams and the Titanic are totally related for my analogy.

When jumping ship, it’s best to get in first.

With that analogy, backed by strong evidence, Pickett to Freo is a mere formality.

The ship has already hit an iceberg. They’re taking on water. Gawn is going to go down with the ship. Viney too.

Petracca will jump next year.

Kosi will jump this year ‘children first’

Bank it.

I like it.

 

[Lach72]

Jai Serong has had quite a good year apparently.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Jackson has been awful playing as first ruck. You clearly don't watch enough Freo games otherwise you would know this. They had to play Reidy because he could not cover Darcy's absence.

No Jackson hasn'T been awful as 1sT ruck. He was producing midfileld like numbers playing ruck when Darcy wasn'T in the team for all but a handful of games and was outstzandng in that role for all but the Geelong game and maybe one other game Ive forgotten. He did get worn down and clearly played sore in the second half of the year though and his overall form dropped off but in most of those games he ws second ruck.

 

[MadMac]

Football teams and the Titanic are totally related for my analogy.

When jumping ship, it’s best to get in first.

With that analogy, backed by strong evidence, Pickett to Freo is a mere formality.

The ship has already hit an iceberg. They’re taking on water. Gawn is going to go down with the ship. Viney too.

Petracca will jump next year.

Kosi will jump this year ‘children first’

Bank it.

Always thought Ross was right about letting the cobblers do the cobbling

 

[MadMundy]

Bailey Banfield

41

Bailey Banfield

Age

26

Ht

190cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.9

3star

T

3.9

5star

G

0.3

3star

D

9.5

2star

K

5.3

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.5

4star

D

14.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.2

3star

walking around into Day 1 of pre-season:

"You're Shai Bolton

29

Shai Bolton

Age

25

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

"

"Yes"

"You play half forward"

"Yes"

"I play half forward too"

"So?"

"Well are you better than me?"

"Well I never met you, but yes"

 

[freo84]

This is Melbourne to Pickett right now.

I don't recall his departure being this publicised before. He could be genuinely undecided.. who knows.

 

[Cobbler]

This is Melbourne to Pickett right now.

I don't recall his departure being this publicised before. He could be genuinely undecided.. who knows.

Kosi calling Walls

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Bailey Banfield walking around into Day 1 of pre-season:

"You're Shai Bolton"

"Yes"

"You play half forward"

"Yes"

"I play half forward too"

"So?"

"Well are you better than me?"

"Well I never met you, but yes"

Ive seen how Bailey interacts with other people when he visits the childrens hospital as Ive visited my mates sick kid who has cancer numerous times with my mate. Bailey's way more likely to be the first person to invite Shai over for dinner and ask him if he needs a hand to unpack then see Shai as a positional rival.

 

[Van_Dyke]

Ive seen how Bailey interacts with other people when he visits the childrens hospital as Ive visited my mates sick kid who has cancer numerous times with my mate. Bailey's way more likely to be the first person to invite Shai over for dinner and ask him if he needs a hand to unpack then see Shai as a positional rival.

it’s a joke from the Simpsons