List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[Big Flappy]

When you get bonafide guns like Treacy and others with late/rookie picks you can afford to cash some first rounders

 

[JammoMonty]

The point is that if you want a contracted player , you need to pay overs.
He would give you a definate shot at a flag.
Draft picks 7 and 12 are equvalent to pick 2 by the draft calculator.
We would probably consider that but nothing less I reckon.

Bolton and management are the ones exploring for an avenue back to WA not the other way round. Your 2nd point, Bolton has 2 flags and is looking for family support. Pass. Holding out for Warner.

 

[pK75]

When you get bonafide guns like Treacy and others with late/rookie picks you can afford to cash some first rounders

Yep, even with our drafting being as good as it is, we still ended up with Ras as a pick 10 unable to break into a regular b22 3 years after drafting him, I’m not calling him a bust yet, but just because you take someone in the 1st round doesn’t mean they’ll contribute in their first 3-4 years.

 

[JammoMonty]

Good lad Dave

“So if it misses, I don’t think it’s the biggest of concern”

Considering the talent in this draft, yeah it is a concern.

 

[Midnite65]

“So if it misses, I don’t think it’s the biggest of concern”

Considering the talent in this draft, yeah it is a concern.

The draft is always a lottery though.

 

[Docker82]

Yep, even with our drafting being as good as it is, we still ended up with Ras as a pick 10 unable to break into a regular b22 3 years after drafting him, I’m not calling him a bust yet, but just because you take someone in the 1st round doesn’t mean they’ll contribute in their first 3-4 years.

Our genuine guns other than Treacy and perhaps Darcy, Ryan and Cox on their day are all first round draft picks.

We killed it in 2016 and got lucky with Treacy in a Covid year but otherwise good late picks have been adding mature agers that had a clear path to the best 22.

 

[Dayts]

Mate, you'd have to be a complete nuffy to think that means anything other than "Bolton wants to leave"

I think you need to enrol in a PlayerManagerese language course

Think Vando could use a refresher also

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Bolton and management are the ones exploring for an avenue back to WA not the other way round. Your 2nd point, Bolton has 2 flags and is looking for family support. Pass. Holding out for Warner.

Ok

 

[LongSerong]

Ok

What are you trying to achieve here matey? Take this convo to the drafts & free agency board

 

[rfc4eva]

If Bolton wants out you definitely don’t pay overs. 1 first rounder at the most. Otherwise let him walk once he out of contract

in 4 years

 

[pK75]

Our genuine guns other than Treacy and perhaps Darcy, Ryan and Cox on their day are all first round draft picks.

We killed it in 2016 and got lucky with Treacy in a Covid year but otherwise good late picks have been adding mature agers that had a clear path to the best 22.

Not convinced, we are lamenting our entire spine of Treacy, Darcy and Pearce missing being the reason we haven’t won the last 2-3 weeks, not a single 1st rounder there. Yet Brodie and Ras are both 1st rounders who can’t get a game.
We are currently chasing Warner and Bolton, both genuine A graders neither were taken in the 1st round, picking kids and projecting where the end up us still an inaccurate science.

 

[freo_leo29]

I’ve seen pick 5 and 20 for Dan Rioli bandied about?

Am I going insane here. On what planet is he worth that? Certainly not earth anyway.

AFL would surely intervene if that were to happen

GC aint giving up 5

That pick is before a Lombard bid, it would be crazy to give that one up

The reason they can part with other firsts is because Lombard will eat up any pick from 10 onwards anyway, just swap firsts for points

11 and 20 are definitely in play for Rioli but thats only because of GC list position and concessions, they gave away 7 just to get Bowes salary off their list


I'd say it goes something like 11 and 20 for Rioli, enough points this year for Lombard and a F2/F3 (depending on points received this year)

So on face value it looks like a lot for Rioli but the points help GC and they continue to shift value into future years like they always do.


I'd be absolutely stunned if 5 is in the deal, it could only be if Lombard somehow rockets up the board late

 

[freo_leo29]

If Bolton wants out you definitely don’t pay overs. 1 first rounder at the most. Otherwise let him walk once he out of contract

It's now or never for Bolton mate

Do we delay the rebuild to haggle over some picks or just get it done? remember this pick 9 came from Schultz AND we already have a good young talent in Coops to show for it.


The longer we push the rebuild back, the more players get unsettled

 

[Docker82]

Not convinced, we are lamenting our entire spine of Treacy, Darcy and Pearce missing being the reason we haven’t won the last 2-3 weeks, not a single 1st rounder there. Yet Brodie and Ras are both 1st rounders who can’t get a game.
We are currently chasing Warner and Bolton, both genuine A graders neither were taken in the 1st round, picking kids and projecting where the end up us still an inaccurate science.

Every single of those except Treacy is at least a second rounder.

Outside of Treacy our only above average players selected after the second round since covid are NGA boys yet some on here are acting like Walls drafts better players at pick 60 than pick 8.

 

[guidodp15]

Future pick to us from you I'm saying, eg pick 10 plus a future first round from you.

you can have our future first no problem.

hope you're happy with pick 18

 

[guidodp15]

Brodie you imagine is gone. I guess if the Fyfe retirement rumours are true there's a spot there, but can't see Brodie leading that pack. Johnson, Raz, and now maybe even NOD have more of a shot there, and they're not gonna get worse. Don't know if Richmond is the best destination.

Raz you'd think is a non-starter. Can't see us doing a trade for less than what Geelong got for Clark, and can't see a team offering that. Seems less likely to be desperate to leave anyways.

Only rumours i see about Fyfe retiring are people on socials say "I think he could retire" If our 2nd best player of all time was retiring his send of tour would've been announced by now

 

[bigfoopy]

Have a funny feeling Richmond ask the question about Darcy for the Bolton trade

 

[Mr Cheese]

Have a funny feeling Richmond ask the question about Darcy for the Bolton trade

Have a funny feeling we'll tell them to get ****ed.

 

[FreoRicci]

Why do I feel, this stinking feeling, that Sturt will be used in a trade for Bolton?

 

[FreoRicci]

It's now or never for Bolton mate

Do we delay the rebuild to haggle over some picks or just get it done? remember this pick 9 came from Schultz AND we already have a good young talent in Coops to show for it.


The longer we push the rebuild back, the more players get unsettled

Actually you put it that way, am all for it. The Schulz pick for Bolton plus a future first. That’s reasonable .

Massive win win from Schulz being pick 50.

 

[stax on the mull]

Why do I feel, this stinking feeling, that Sturt will be used in a trade for Bolton?

It might help if you could you make this a question with multiple choice options as answers and we can all have a go at it.

 

[bone2468]

Why do I feel, this stinking feeling, that Sturt will be used in a trade for Bolton?

Wash your mouth out with soap

 

[FreoRicci]

It might help if you could you make this a question with multiple choice options as answers and we can all have a go at it.

He hasn’t signed.
He’s Victorian.
Coaches take ages to select him.
He hasn’t played enough games for the club to recognise his ability and potential.

Bolton is a medium forward. Direct replacement more or less if the club sees it that way

 

[mightymouse75]

He hasn’t signed.
He’s Victorian.
Coaches take ages to select him.
He hasn’t played enough games for the club to recognise his ability and potential.

Bolton is a medium forward. Direct replacement more or less if the club sees it that way

We have stuck by him with his injurys..
Bolton will be replacing Walters

 

[stax on the mull]

He hasn’t signed.
He’s Victorian.
Coaches take ages to select him.
He hasn’t played enough games for the club to recognise his ability and potential.

Bolton is a medium forward. Direct replacement more or less if the club sees it that way

Not at all, To some extent, Very much so, Don't know