List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[Joao]

You watch Hutchy push trade radio out to 16 hours per day now that the amount of content is increasing from 10 minutes to potentially 20 minutes.

 

[Taylor]

May be a case of clubs expecting the extra year of future trading, committing to things, and now having to find a way of getting the deals done.

If even a quarter of these moves happen, it’s going to be a wild few weeks

All the clubs believing they have the best hand and by the end there's 20 aces on the table and it's all called a draw after the shuffle.

 

[Cobbler]

I think you could get that, but likely only during a draft night trade.

Swans currently hold 18&19

We could do 10 & 26 for 18,19 and future 2nd.

That’s not too unrealistic.

Leaves us with 9, ~17, 18, 19 our future 1st and 2x2nds

Gold Coast may be a willing trade partner again.

Either way. Someone will want pick 10 if we put it on the table. Many clubs will need to find ammo to complete deals.

 

[Cobbler]

Freo asking about Pickett

This just rumour?

 

[Taylor]

This just rumour?

It's not just Freo enquiring either.

 

[Joao]

Swans currently hold 18&19

We could do 10 & 26 for 18,19 and future 2nd.

That’s not too unrealistic.

Leaves us with 9, ~17, 18, 19 our future 1st and 2x2nds

Gold Coast may be a willing trade partner again.

Either way. Someone will want pick 10 if we put it on the table. Many clubs will need to find ammo to complete deals.

I'd look at it. It depends on where Bolton is going to land but it would be nice to get some late firsts in this draft.

 

[dexter_]

This just rumour?

from Sam Edmund

 

[Lach72]

Compare the pair

One is Shai Bolton

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Shai Bolton

Age

25

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

, playing in the bottom side, one is a player go_the_dockers would have in the top 20 players, playing in a top 4 team

 

[FD2646]

Freo asking about Pickett

Good. Melbourne appear vulnerable and we should be making enquiries. Even better if Pickett's management is making enquiries.

 

[Lach72]

Vomit

Ahaha I was thinking Marlion.



Rather Shai than the Melbourne Pickett but good t ask the question

 

[go_the_dockers]

Compare the pair

One is Shai Bolton, playing in the bottom side, one is a player go_the_dockers would have in the top 20 players, playing in a top 4 team

Not Pickett or Stengle, can't see myself rating any other small forward in the top 20.

Please send me a quote of my post.

 

[LongSerong]

Given Pickett's tendency to go completely missing in games (like COMPLETELY missing) and the fact he loves to drive his shoulder in blokes heads for fun I would avoid at all costs and stick to Bolton. Can see him getting suspended on the eve of a finals campaign for us (with no VIC concessions at the tribunal for us)

On Bolton, just remember how damn good he plays over here when he gets the opportunity to play in front of his family. Hopefully if he comes that won't wear thin, because the games I've watched when he plays here and absolute top draw

 

[go_the_dockers]

Rather Shai than the Melbourne Pickett but good t ask the question

I am 100% the opposite. Would prefer Pickett over Bolton, and it is not a tough decision.

I think this is why I think all the trades are massively overs, when other people think they are fair.

 

[freodog]

You watch Hutchy push trade radio out to 16 hours per day now that the amount of content is increasing from 10 minutes to potentially 20 minutes.

Install a Rheem

 

[Lach72]

Compare the pair

One is Shai Bolton, playing in the bottom side, one is a player go_the_dockers would have in the top 20 players, playing in a top 4 team

Given Pickett's tendency to go completely missing in games (like COMPLETELY missing) and the fact he loves to drive his shoulder in blokes heads for fun I would avoid at all costs and stick to Bolton. Can see him getting suspended on the eve of a finals campaign for us (with no VIC concessions at the tribunal for us)

On Bolton, just remember how damn good he plays over here when he gets the opportunity to play in front of his family. Hopefully if he comes that won't wear thin, because the games I've watched when he plays here and absolute top draw

I am 100% the opposite. Would prefer Pickett over Bolton, and it is not a tough decision.

I think this is why I think all the trades are massively overs, when other people think they are fair.

Firstly, Bolton has better stats this year than both your small forwards. So not sure what your problem is.

My example is of Shai on the left, and Toby Green.


Shai kicking slightly less goals at a similar accuracy and also playing some midfield minutes.

 

[Taylor]

Compare score involvements for small forward impact, it will include their own scoring but those who spend time in the middle making goals for others will get the boost

 

[dont bowl there]

Firstly, Bolton has better stats this year than both your small forwards. So not sure what your problem is.

My example is of Shai on the left, and Toby Green.


Shai kicking slightly less goals at a similar accuracy and also playing some midfield minutes.

It's baffling. Bolton is playing in the worst team and has stats up there with the best small forwards in the entire AFL. Even if he comes to Fremantle and has the same season stats wise he would be the biggest upgrade we could possible get on our current lot of small "forwards". Switta plays the same forward with a bit of mid time and does it at best half as well as Bolton does.

 

[Cobbler]

Supporters love to love their own. Nothing new there.
Not only is Bolton going to be a great addition he’ll put bums on seats and give supporters great highlights to talk about.

 

[Ge3ks]

We killed it in 2016 and got lucky with Treacy

Right? This time last year the club was planning to use two first rounders on Logan McDonald in 2024. Now we can use that capital elsewhere. Massive.

 

[Joao]

I'm still fascinated to see if Logan becomes good.

 

[guidodp15]

Freo asking about Pickett

Freo prison?

 

[guidodp15]

I really wish we knew how much players earned so we could make these hypothetical trades and delistings easier

 

[Ge3ks]

Freo prison?

Wrong Pickett.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Firstly, Bolton has better stats this year than both your small forwards. So not sure what your problem is.

My example is of Shai on the left, and Toby Green.


Shai kicking slightly less goals at a similar accuracy and also playing some midfield minutes.

This is just my opinion. I just don't rate him as highly as other people. It is probably the easy misses than burn into the back of mind, plus the cheap goals he gets. Vs us he got 2 of the 4 goals by getting out the back, and having a team mate do the hard work for him.

I also have not seen Bolton really hurt sides when he has the ball in hand. I just don't think his skills are that good.

Add to the fact you only expect 30 goals from him a year, and he is just not worth the capital we would need to give up to get him.

Also, he relies on his pace massively. I see him dropping off once he hits 30 pretty quickly.

Once again, this is just my opinion on the games I have seen. I have not seen Richmond play that much.


1. Green 1.86 goals
4. Bolton 1.57 goals
3. Pickett 1.7 goals
2. Stengle 1.82 goals

1. Green has 1.2 GA's
3. Bolton .6 GA's
2. Pickett .7 GA's
3. Stengle .6 GA's

4. Green 2.2 tackles
2. Bolton 2.5 tackles
1. Pickett 3.6 tackles
3. Stengle 2.4 tackles


2. Green 15.75 possessions
1. Bolton 16.95 possessions
4. Pickett Possessions 12.55
3. Stengle 13.45 possessions.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Compare score involvements for small forward impact, it will include their own scoring but those who spend time in the middle making goals for others will get the boost

Is this just goal assists on AFL tables, or is there another stats?