List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[Wray27]

How was Winder today?

Haha. You know he was good but he’s not Bolton and he’s not the difference in us winning a flag in 25 or 26.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Ridiculous comment. Imagine if we had Bolton playing this year instead of Banfield. We would have won ALL 6 of the close games we lost and currently be on top of the ladder.

Exactly. Plus imagine how many goals Bolton would have scored in a team that led the AFL in clearances so a high performing midfield rather than a midfield that was constantly thrashed throughout the year. Plus if anyone looks up Bolton's record playing

 

[freo_leo29]

While I'm happy to be getting Bolton, I would feel a little better if we could get the price down to 9 and the Port first and keep his contract under 1m a year. Would appreciate Bolton more if he help be signing on a couple extra years at bargain rates. Bolton is pushing this move as much as anyone, would.be nice if he can help

I find it surprising Richmond had to give him a 1m a year contract to keep him in the first place.

I think there were multiple factors with Shai signing that huge deal.

He signed off the back of an AA season where he had 80+ shots at goal, he was splitting time mid/fwd too, absolutely elite
+ its likely his contract was a bit backended, Tigers were coming off a strong period and had been backending a little bit through it. (Which you do to keep a group together and win flags)

 

[Cobbler]

 

[Joao]

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From the heart.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

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[King Huskii]

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Harry Reems did you set this up for Shai?

 

[theGav56]

Expected value in picks plus his yearly salary

That's all to be negotiated I reckon. I think Richmond will be motivated sellers, but at the same time Bolton is the best opportunity we have for improving our side.

 

[freo_leo29]

Bit of a side-bar but Richmond played that Tom Lynch contract super well by back-loading it to when they dipped down the ladder.

Kind of the inverse of us with Lobb and Neale.

They've been pushing back all of their contracts, its a smart thing to do when you try to build a dynasty

Problem is it can all come crashing down at some point.


Cats take a different approach and have stayed relevant for a long period, other factors help them though

 

[Cobbler]

The next one will be:

Bolton ‘Whether you're looking to build or develop your new home, you can trust the award-winning team at Dale Alcock Homes - Perth's trusted home building company’

 

[theGav56]

Why do we go after all the promising WA talent at the wrong time, O'Meara and Martin would have been ****ing great to have years ago.

Jackson and Bolton fit the timeline better (as did Acres, Hamling, McCarthy, Hogan, Lobb).

 

[jonesy233]

Priority 1 - try trade in Warner and Shai Bolton

29

Shai Bolton

Age

25

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

this trade period using all 4 1st round picks (3 -2024 and 1-2025)

Priority 2 - if can’t get Warner in then try for shai bolton

29

Shai Bolton

Age

25

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

(2 picks) and baker (1 pick).

Priority 3 - Shai Bolton

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Shai Bolton

Age

25

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

(2 picks) and use 1 pick on best available small forward in draft.

 

[FreoMatt]

I think if this is the situation, then simply you say no to Bolton.

Does Bolton in, and Sturt out move the needle that much. I don't think so.

I want us to keep Sturt and not going to argue his much we should pay for Bolton, but saying Bolton doesn’t move the needle that much is just wrong. What we lack are game breakers who can win you 3/4 games a year off their own boot. Most teams above us have one and although they might not be the most consistent performer every game, those 3/4 games they turn each year makes the difference from being top 4 or out of the 8. It’s the last piece of the puzzle


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[King Huskii]

I want us to keep Sturt and not going to argue his much we should pay for Bolton, but saying Bolton doesn’t move the needle that much is just wrong. What we lack are game breakers who can win you 3/4 games a year off their own boot. Most teams above us have one and although they might not be the most consistent performer every game, those 3/4 games they turn each year makes the difference from being top 4 or out of the 8. It’s the last piece of the puzzle


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Bolton always plays quality at optus

 

[go_the_dockers]

Bolton doesn’t move the needle that much is just wrong

It depends what we give up.

 

[Dayts]

He signed off the back of an AA season where he had 80+ shots at goal, he was splitting time mid/fwd too, absolutely elite

Exactly the type of season I expect him to have next year when he’s roving around our forward line.

 

[King Huskii]

It depends what we give up.

He moves the needle next year regardless of what we give up

It's the future that it potentially impacts.

I feel like we have been here before as a club. Just needing the cherry on the top and it doesn't quite work. Let's just hope it does this time

 

[Superkoops]

So rather then go the bonafide gun wanting to come to Freo that literally ticks boxes we need ticked, you’d take up 3-4 list spots and gamble with 3-4 unknowns?

You’re just ignoring the incredibly high likelihood Owies and Richard’s wouldn’t come to us, unless we pay them ludicrous overs.

The others are crabs mate. There’s reasons no one grabbed Winder in the mid season draft and couldn’t get games with Eagles… Eagles mate! The team with more opportunities than any in the last 3 years and he couldn’t make it. Why aren’t you so critical on those facts?

Berry we may still be able to grab.

Johnson? That’s just a stupid waste of everyone’s time. Bloke had 6 touches in his last game.

Firstly I agree we should trade in Bolton. There does need to be a limit set on the trade value and no more than 9 or 10 along with the later teens pick and something back to us with draft pick swaps. No way we should offer 9 and 10. He is exactly the type of dynamic small forward we need.

It is my opinion and that is general feel really that Liam Baker will choose WCE.

With regards to Winder he is much better and more rounded player than the one who played West Coast and got himself in trouble. I understand he has some knee troubles but still been very consistent this year with both midfield possession numbers and hitting the scoreboard. We have reportedly shown some interest and he could be selected as a DFA or SSP Rookie.

As for ND and Berry. I personally believe it is important for us to hold a decent first round pick. This first round pick could be used on Berry if he is determined to be the most suitable and best selection at that pick.

 

[bone2468]

Our 1st pick and saints 2nd for Bolton take it or leave it

 

[DragoDelph]

Baker is still live.

 

[clivenator26]

Warner isn’t coming in the next 2/3 years.

 

[poshman]

Warner isn’t coming in the next 2/3 years.

What is this based on?

 

[CapitalA]

This guy every now and then update the phantom draft. Look like he considered many trades and changed the draft order . Have a look at our draft picks and look like we kept our middle first round and a pick 19 appear ... and we have pick 30 as well. Any idea? does he think Port will have pick 17 which slided to pick 19? can't work it out.

This was a rubbish phantom draft.

 

[wakojako]

How was Winder today?

16 disposals and 2 goals. He makes a great half-forward and I would consider it. Only problem is that he would be competing with Simpson for a spot.

 

[King Huskii]

16 disposals and 2 goals. He makes a great half-forward and I would consider it. Only problem is that he would be competing with Simpson for a spot.

He seemed more dominant than that as I was at the game

His possessions must have made an impact on me