List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Silencer83]

Yep, whoops 2024. We may have been dominant but we didn't put them away so it still counts that he kicked straight when no one else was.

 

[s_wd6]

Almost like we needed someone of experience to have a moment of composure.

O'Meara isn't the reason we didn't win at the end of the year, he was a big part of why we didn't win games at the start of the year though while he learned that role.

I can’t think of a single good thing JOM did in those final few games. He’s in the leadership group, he needed to step up. He didn’t. Banfield has had more games this season where he’s stepped up and turned the game our way.

 

[freo1997]

I can’t think of a single time where he’s stepped up when the game was on the line.

50 out kicked the sealer v GC.

The one against Saints.

Meh I feel like he’s an honest player, with a big name. Will find himself in and out from here though.

I think 2025 onwards if Noddy stays and comes onto that wing..JOM should see out his days as a medium tall/general fwd. Ricciuto, Voss, Brad Johnson, Bucks all those busling mids who had good skills saw their final years in the fwd line.

 

[Taylor]

I can’t think of a single good thing JOM did in those final few games. He’s in the leadership group, he needed to step up. He didn’t. Banfield has had more games this season where he’s stepped up and turned the game our way.

His primary value is in working to deny space and options for opposition kicks out of their defensive fifty - unfortunately opposition clubs were very successful just bombing it to their talls because we didn't have the cattle capable of making a contest.

He was doing the running so the likes of O'Driscoll could impact with burst play at stoppages.

He wasn't doing that running early in the season and opposition moved the ball too easily through smalls.

 

[freo1997]

I don’t mind JOM, but if given the choice I’d prefer NOD, if NOD is wondering how he becomes B22 and that’s one of reasons he’s thinking of leaving, I’m sitting him down and telling him the JOM role is his. 60% wing, 20% inside mid, 20% bench until he builds his tank to spend more than 80% TOG.

As I just posted if Nod stays and Sharpy continues reasonableish form on the wing..JOM should be competing with Sturt, potentially Jack Martin as a medium tall/General fwd. May be behind Sturt at the start of the year if that’s where he’s played, but you’re guaranteed a guy of his calibre would be banging the door down at Peel. If Nod leaves, I guess we persist with him on the wing.

You can’t deny his kicking disposal would be top 5 in our team.

 

[Jezzitizle]

Damn people here are genuinely convinced O'Driscoll will leave? Damn I thought some of you were better than that.

 

[wakojako]

It's that we are still waiting on Voss' contract announcement from the club that gives me that hope on O'Driscoll.

There's Voss from the West Australian. But nothing from the club as far as I can see.

Freo lock in breakout forward Voss until end of 2026 season

Fremantle have reportedly locked away forward Pat Voss for another two years after a breakout season.

thewest.com.au

NOD confirmed he hasn't singed a contract yet?

 

[malpaso]

Just sayin'

Riley Garcia VS Freddy

 

[Eski3]

I think the main difference is we all knew pretty much what was happening with those three. We know with Voss as well but we're holding off.

It's basically crickets across the board with everyone else.

AFL site said that Reidy has signed a 1 year extension which hasn't been announced yet too

 

[Cobbler]

One thing we definitely do is over rate many players on our list.

 

[MadMundy]

Boring argument and attitude. What does it say that the club offered such a nice guy 4 years at the age of 28, who’s done nothing of note at Gold Coast and Hawthorn, when Acres gets 1 low ball trash year at 26?

It’s a horrible trade, it was a hopeful quick insert inside mid (who he supposed to be) instead pushed on the defensive wing to be included with Fyfe. 15 disposlas per game in the last month shouldn’t just be ‘okay’ at his age. Rather a young Stanley or Johnson on the wing getting that number.

Now if NOD leaves, which may still be likely, and trash ‘homesick’ retirees like JOM stays for two years, the club is utterly stupid.

NOD leaving isn't likely at all, the odds are in favour of him staying, it's probably a 90/10 split of him staying/leaving.

People read far too into stuff that isn't there.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

NOD leaving isn't likely at all, the odds are in favour of him staying, it's probably a 90/10 split of him staying/leaving.

People read far too into stuff that isn't there.

Mate, there's no reading into anything, the season is literally ended and he's out of contract and on record saying he wants to weigh up other offers and look at it after Peel.

Maybe he does stay but this is fingers in the ear screaming nah nah nah type of denial.

 

[s_wd6]

NOD leaving isn't likely at all, the odds are in favour of him staying, it's probably a 90/10 split of him staying/leaving.

People read far too into stuff that isn't there.

An out of contract player has been offered a contract which he hasn’t signed and when asked about his contract said that he would wait until his season is over and that he was weighing up interest elsewhere. It’s 90/10 split leaving/staying.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Mate, there's no reading into anything, the season is literally ended and he's out of contract and on record saying he wants to weigh up other offers and look at it after Peel.

Maybe he does stay but this is fingers in the ear screaming nah nah nah type of denial.

Id say its 50/50. I want him to stay like most here. In my opinion he is one good preseason away from being a solid afl regular.

 

[MadMundy]

An out of contract player has been offered a contract which he hasn’t signed and when asked about his contract said that he would wait until his season is over and that he was weighing up interest elsewhere. It’s 90/10 split leaving/staying.

I think saying the chances of him leaving being that high are silly, NOD will be a Docker next year, guarantee it. Might as well wait until after Peel Thunder is done.

Mate, there's no reading into anything, the season is literally ended and he's out of contract and on record saying he wants to weigh up other offers and look at it after Peel.

Maybe he does stay but this is fingers in the ear screaming nah nah nah type of denial.

I mean maybe, could very easily be waiting until Peel Thunder is over, besides, mulling over other offers is just smart.

I mean this board went through the exact same cycle with Sturt and that turned out okay.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Id say its 50/50.

Yeah we can assign all kinds of percentages but like, pretending there's basically no risk of him leaving is the main part I have issue with. Clearly, there is very large risk of him leaving.

I think saying the chances of him leaving being that high are silly, NOD will be a Docker next year, guarantee it. Might as well wait until after Peel Thunder is done.


I mean maybe, could very easily be waiting until Peel Thunder is over, besides, mulling over other offers is just smart.

I mean this board went through the exact same cycle with Sturt and that turned out okay.

If Sturt was still out of contract he would absolutely be clearly gone. Again, like, you do know the season is over right? The only reason there's any hope on Noddy is because he's WA born. The club is clearly offering him sweet FA and he has to think about what's best for him.

 

[MadMundy]

Yeah we can assign all kinds of percentages but like, pretending there's basically no risk of him leaving is the main part I have issue with. Clearly, there is very large risk of him leaving.

If Sturt was still out of contract he would absolutely be clearly gone. Again, like, you do know the season is over right? The only reason there's any hope on Noddy is because he's WA born. The club is clearly offering him sweet FA and he has to think about what's best for him.

I do hope if there is the chance of him leaving, the club is waiting to see what he gets offered and matches it, I don't know, I just can't see him leaving, he seems to love the club.

 

[ROGS]

AFL site said that Reidy has signed a 1 year extension which hasn't been announced yet too

Would be more happy if Knobel extended for 2 yrs as Reidy is just crash and bash at best, cannot take a mark around the ground, watch this Sunday if you want evidence

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I do hope if there is the chance of him leaving, the club is waiting to see what he gets offered and matches it, I don't know, I just can't see him leaving, he seems to love the club.

I think this is the main reason people are / will be disgusted if he leaves. The guy would surely stay on remotely fair rates, if he's weighing up offers, we are doing an Acres again.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Yeah we can assign all kinds of percentages but like, pretending there's basically no risk of him leaving is the main part I have issue with. Clearly, there is very large risk of him leaving.

If Sturt was still out of contract he would absolutely be clearly gone. Again, like, you do know the season is over right? The only reason there's any hope on Noddy is because he's WA born. The club is clearly offering him sweet FA and he has to think about what's best for him.

I get Griffin Logue vibes here unfortunately in that I think NOD wanted to stay and didn't get offered a contract that he could except earlier in te year so NOD's looked what offers are out there late in the year. I hope Im wrong.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I get Griffin Logue vibes here unfortunately in that I think NOD wanted to stay and didn't get offered a contract that he could except earlier in te year so NOD's looked what offers are out there late in the year. I hope Im wrong.

Feels worse, at least with Logue he seemed to get an insane deal he couldnt turn down for his career and rest of his life basically. Noddy feels like he's getting a fair deal (300 - 350k for 3 years or something) and we cant or dont want to come close. This is the side effect of getting massive names I guess

 

[Dockeroo]

On Riley Garcia, a bulldogs supporting mate says he’s not much chop, a slow thinker on the ball that gets caught holding the ball a lot. Wasn’t too stressed about the prospect of him leaving

 

[Taylor]

Freo offered one year but have upped their offer to longer after he was offered the Dogs deal

 

[Cobbler]

Lots of discussion on NOD.

In all seriousness why should he get offered more than 1 year or 1 with a trigger by Freo? He’s done little in 3 years. He’s come good towards the end of this season.

Should get 1 with a trigger.

If someone wants to offer 3 years and he wants to take that then good on him.

If he’s actually got confidence in himself he should sign the 1-2 year with Freo and back himself in.

 

[arsesmart]

Feels worse, at least with Logue he seemed to get an insane deal he couldnt turn down for his career and rest of his life basically. Noddy feels like he's getting a fair deal (300 - 350k for 3 years or something) and we cant or dont want to come close. This is the side effect of getting massive names I guess

You'd hope perennial rehabbers, like O'Driscoll, come to the party with their contracts. They need to invest in the journey for us to even consider long lasting success. The club/coaches also bare some responsibility for retention though.