List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[ROGS]

AFL site said that Reidy has signed a 1 year extension which hasn't been announced yet too

Would be more happy if Knobel extended for 2 yrs as Reidy is just crash and bash at best, cannot take a mark around the ground, watch this Sunday if you want evidence

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I do hope if there is the chance of him leaving, the club is waiting to see what he gets offered and matches it, I don't know, I just can't see him leaving, he seems to love the club.

I think this is the main reason people are / will be disgusted if he leaves. The guy would surely stay on remotely fair rates, if he's weighing up offers, we are doing an Acres again.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Yeah we can assign all kinds of percentages but like, pretending there's basically no risk of him leaving is the main part I have issue with. Clearly, there is very large risk of him leaving.

If Sturt was still out of contract he would absolutely be clearly gone. Again, like, you do know the season is over right? The only reason there's any hope on Noddy is because he's WA born. The club is clearly offering him sweet FA and he has to think about what's best for him.

I get Griffin Logue vibes here unfortunately in that I think NOD wanted to stay and didn't get offered a contract that he could except earlier in te year so NOD's looked what offers are out there late in the year. I hope Im wrong.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I get Griffin Logue vibes here unfortunately in that I think NOD wanted to stay and didn't get offered a contract that he could except earlier in te year so NOD's looked what offers are out there late in the year. I hope Im wrong.

Feels worse, at least with Logue he seemed to get an insane deal he couldnt turn down for his career and rest of his life basically. Noddy feels like he's getting a fair deal (300 - 350k for 3 years or something) and we cant or dont want to come close. This is the side effect of getting massive names I guess

 

[Dockeroo]

On Riley Garcia, a bulldogs supporting mate says he’s not much chop, a slow thinker on the ball that gets caught holding the ball a lot. Wasn’t too stressed about the prospect of him leaving

 

[Taylor]

Freo offered one year but have upped their offer to longer after he was offered the Dogs deal

 

[Cobbler]

Lots of discussion on NOD.

In all seriousness why should he get offered more than 1 year or 1 with a trigger by Freo? He’s done little in 3 years. He’s come good towards the end of this season.

Should get 1 with a trigger.

If someone wants to offer 3 years and he wants to take that then good on him.

If he’s actually got confidence in himself he should sign the 1-2 year with Freo and back himself in.

 

[arsesmart]

Feels worse, at least with Logue he seemed to get an insane deal he couldnt turn down for his career and rest of his life basically. Noddy feels like he's getting a fair deal (300 - 350k for 3 years or something) and we cant or dont want to come close. This is the side effect of getting massive names I guess

You'd hope perennial rehabbers, like O'Driscoll, come to the party with their contracts. They need to invest in the journey for us to even consider long lasting success. The club/coaches also bare some responsibility for retention though.

 

[Cobbler]

Freo offered one year but have upped their offer to longer after he was offered the Dogs deal

If that’s the case. Good. Shows we value him. But we won’t just bend over.

Sign the 2 years NOD and get yourself right.

 

[thistimeforsure]

If bloody NOD goes and for all the gross incompetence we have had to suck up as fans of this shit truck club over the years I don’t think I’ve ever said this before but that will be it fir me

Maybe fans of other sports enjoy players zinging around from team to team but I ****ing hate it




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[freo_leo29]

Lots of discussion on NOD.

In all seriousness why should he get offered more than 1 year or 1 with a trigger by Freo? He’s done little in 3 years. He’s come good towards the end of this season.

Should get 1 with a trigger.

If someone wants to offer 3 years and he wants to take that then good on him.

If he’s actually got confidence in himself he should sign the 1-2 year with Freo and back himself in.

He is talented and worth more than that would be my reason.

He looks a step above WAFL level IMO, this is coming from someone who was absolutely gobsmacked with his 2022, before that and in 2023 he genuinely looked average at WAFL level, something has clicked with him (maybe AOD losing his chance has changed him?)

He genuinely looks good at WAFL level now and we have seen he can have impact at AFL level, 2 years is a no brainer now

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Knobels still the one I'll be most gutted on unless he's massively decreasing the draft pick price of a trade. He's perfect insurance for Darcy not staying on the park within the next two years and beyond.

 

[Cobbler]

He is talented and worth more than that would be my reason.

He looks a step above WAFL level IMO, this is coming from someone who was absolutely gobsmacked with his 2022, before that and in 2023 he genuinely looked average at WAFL level, something has clicked with him (maybe AOD losing his chance has changed him?)

He genuinely looks good at WAFL level now and we have seen he can have impact at AFL level, 2 years is a no brainer now

So, by your own account, he looked average in 2023. It required ‘something to click’ and now he deserves 2 years?

I’m not saying he won’t be offered 2 years but he’s yet to prove anything and if it takes his brother losing his chance to make him ‘click’ is he actually invested?

If these guys aren’t balls to the wall in their drive in the first place then what are we doing?

 

[David Bubb]

We can't be blaming JOM for NOD leaving if we are all convinced that we're bringing in a Martin/Garcia type (if not both). I'm thinking it's unlikely we bring in one of those two if it means losing NOD. Not saying NOD will stay, but certainly don't think it's JOM's fault.

 

[freo_leo29]

So, by your own account, he looked average in 2023. It required ‘something to click’ and now he deserves 2 years?

I’m not saying he won’t be offered 2 years but he’s yet to prove anything and if it takes his brother losing his chance to make him ‘click’ is he actually invested?

If these guys aren’t balls to the wall in their drive in the first place then what are we doing?

Some people take longer to get there

I reckon he is there now


Is it your opinion that we should throw out someone when they've turned the corner? I'd be disappointed to lose him now

 

[ilikepotatoes]

I also wonder if how we managed NODs knee may have pissed him off.

The club made him play through his knee pain initially and he ended up needing like 4 operations on it.

 

[Swiggy]

the age is reporting Martin will request a trade by the end of the week. Sounds like freo will be club of choice

 

[freo_leo29]

the age is reporting Martin will request a trade by the end of the week. Sounds like freo will be club of choice

surely its for a 5th rounder or something, Carlton don't even want him

Would have preferred to list him as an SSP

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

the age is reporting Martin will request a trade by the end of the week. Sounds like freo will be club of choice

No deal.

 

[Joao]

We can't be blaming JOM for NOD leaving if we are all convinced that we're bringing in a Martin/Garcia type (if not both). I'm thinking it's unlikely we bring in one of those two if it means losing NOD. Not saying NOD will stay, but certainly don't think it's JOM's fault.

I don't think anyone is convinced Garcia is coming. That's just a WA player OOC.

Martin isn't competing with NoD or JoM for a spot. They do compete with each other for the wing.

the age is reporting Martin will request a trade by the end of the week. Sounds like freo will be club of choice

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

surely its for a 5th rounder or something, Carlton don't even want him

Would have preferred to list him as an SSP

Saints 4th rounder downgrade for Carltons 4th rounder would be the most we should offer.

 

[Cobbler]

Some people take longer to get there

I reckon he is there now


Is it your opinion that we should throw out someone when they've turned the corner? I'd be disappointed to lose him now

I very much want to keep him. His end of season showed enough to warrant an offer.

I’m just saying if someone has come along and offered 3 years? Well, bye.

It would be annoying, but there needs to be a level of mutual respect. If we upped our offer as Taylor has suggested he should grab that with both hands and back himself in.

10 weeks ago he’d have been lucky to been offered a 1 year extension.

 

[fnerd]

Jack Martin

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Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

ffs

So let me get this straight , the club is hesitant to offer more than a base deal for died in the wool freo player with big upside (already shown too) in Nod due to his injury concerns but are quite happy to throw ****en mercenary Martin a deal coz , like he’s more likely to be fit and available and add “something” I assume?

FMD this club

 

[Joao]

InB4 we get Martin 100% fit and he makes the AA.

I would have been so excited by this 5 years ago.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Saints 4th rounder downgrade for Carltons 4th rounder would be the most we should offer.

A 28th round pick is still overs.

Waste of list space