List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[Bender571]

There's a video on YouTube showing what the ladder looks like if the close games were reversed. He does 6 points and 10 points. Long story short, we make finals.

That is my expectations of what Bolton, Baker and natural list improvement will bring.

Finals experience definitely has a value.

Just to rub salt into the wound we would also have pick 4 and pick 7 from Collingwood and Port.

 

[eastfreo75]

I think Aish is better than O'Meara in almost every metric. Some will disagree of course, but that's my view.

James Aish and Jaeger O'Meara AFL Stats Comparison

James Aish and Jaeger O'Meara AFL Stats Comparison.

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Player Statistics Comparison​ James Aish​ Name​ Jaeger O'Meara​ Fremantle Dockers​ Team​ Fremantle Dockers​ Defender, Midfield​ Position​ Midfield​ 183​ Career Games​ 186​ Norwood​ Origin​ Perth Demons​ October 8, 1995​ Date of Birth​ February 23, 1994​ 28yr 11mth​ Age​ 30yr 6mth​ 183cm​ Height​ 184cm​ 83kg​ Weight​ 84kg​ 2013 National Draft​ Last Drafted In​ 2011 Mini Draft​ Round 1, Pick #7​ Last Draft Position​ Round 1, Pick #1​ Brisbane Lions​ Last Drafted By​ Gold Coast Suns​ 2024​ Stats for Season​ 2024​ 20​ Games​ 22​ 9.9​ Kicks​ 8.3​ 7.0​ Handballs​ 7.0​ 16.9​ Disposals​ 15.3​ 5.2​ Marks​ 3.6​ 0​ Goals​ 0.4​ 0.2​ Behinds​ 0.4​ 1.5​ Tackles​ 2.9​ 0​ Hitouts​ 0​ 2.1​ Inside 50s​ 2.0​ 0.2​ Goal Assists​ 0.3​ 0.4​ Frees For​ 0.5​ 0.2​ Frees Against​ 0.7​ 3.1​ Contested Possessions​ 5.3​ 12.7​ Uncontested Possessions​ 10.5​ 13.4​ Effective Disposals​ 11.7​ 79.3%​ Disposal Efficiency %​ 76.5%​ 1.6​ Clangers​ 1.8​ 0.2​ Contested Marks​ 0​ 0.1​ Marks Inside 50​ 0.3​ 0.9​ Clearances​ 2.1​ 2.5​ Rebound 50s​ 1.8​ 0.9​ One Percenters​ 0.9​ 0.1​ Bounces​ 0.1​ 70.0​ Time On Ground %​ 69.6​ 0.1​ Centre Clearances​ 0​ 0.8​ Stoppage Clearances​ 2.1​ 3.4​ Score Involvements​ 3.9​ 250.1​ Metres Gained​ 230.8​ 2.3​ Turnovers​ 2.4​ 3.6​ Intercepts​ 2.0​ 0.1​ Tackles Inside 50​ 0.5​ $392,000​ AFL Fantasy Price​ $580,000​ 65.2​ AFL Fantasy Score​ 62.2​ $200,400​ Supercoach Price​ $348,300​ 61.8​ Supercoach Score​ 65.2​

 

[malpaso]

I have no faith in the Roos usage of players as an indicator of their talent.

 

[malpaso]

I think Aish is better than O'Meara in almost every metric. Some will disagree of course, but that's my view.

Yeah I don't think so. Aish gets most of his stats in the back of the ground whereas JOM is earning them from the middle to forward lines (a lot harder)

 

[Midnite65]

Geez, times are slow when we are comparing Aish vs O'Meara on a trade target forum.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Geez, times are slow when we are comparing Aish vs O'Meara on a trade target forum.

Come back in 10 days.

 

[wakojako]

I had someone at work claiming to be a friend of Warner's partner say they have decided to stay in Sydney. There's a lot of shit going around atm.

 

[freoforever94]

Maybe Odin Jones is staying

 

[kp junior]

Maybe Odin Jones is staying

Juice is a truly weird nickname choice for an Odin


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[DragoDelph]

Juice is a truly weird nickname choice for an Odin


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OJ

 

[Cobbler]

Juice is a truly weird nickname choice for an Odin


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They weren’t as big a fan of the nickname ‘Simpson’

 

[Taylor]

Orenthal James "OJ" Simpson. The juice.

 

[Bastyy]

Orenthal James "OJ" Simpson. The juice.

We could always do with an MVP winning running back...

 

[kp junior]

Yes understand the OJ ref but his name is Odin!


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[Cobbler]

Yes understand the OJ ref but his name is Odin!


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Odin Jones = OJ
OJ = Orange Juice
Orange Juice = Juice

 

[rgauci]

I think Aish is better than O'Meara in almost every metric. Some will disagree of course, but that's my view.

I agree. There isn’t a lot between them, and we will be mid table until they are outside the 22. Can’t carry players who can’t pressure and aren’t key position players. There is a reason our forward half pressure is the worst in the league. It’s not just Walters, Freddy, Banfield etc…. It’s the wingers and HFF.

 

[kp junior]

Odin Jones = OJ
OJ = Orange Juice
Orange Juice = Juice

Yeah I get the juice reference. But in life you only get 1 crack at making a nickname for an Odin


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[Quay Club]

It may just be a throwaway line but this article suggests the Gaelic side that Ultan Kelm plays for will lose him to us.

I know he impressed in his few weeks training with us.

"With AFL side Fremantle Dockers still keen on Ultan Kelm, Fermanagh could soon lose one of their most valuable assets."

Fermanagh boss Kieran Donnelly reveals why he extended his contract

KIERAN DONNELLY will offer his players a licence to kill when he returns for a fourth season as Fermanagh boss. The Brookeborough man is pleased with the progress made by his side since he was appo…

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[Joao]

It may just be a throwaway line but this article suggests the Gaelic side that Ultan Kelm plays for will lose him to us.

I know he impressed in his few weeks training with us.

"With AFL side Fremantle Dockers still keen on Ultan Kelm, Fermanagh could soon lose one of their most valuable assets."

Fermanagh boss Kieran Donnelly reveals why he extended his contract

KIERAN DONNELLY will offer his players a licence to kill when he returns for a fourth season as Fermanagh boss. The Brookeborough man is pleased with the progress made by his side since he was appo…

www.google.com

Why aren't more of you trawling Irish news for Freo relevant material. This is the level required.

Lift.

 

[Docker82]

It may just be a throwaway line but this article suggests the Gaelic side that Ultan Kelm plays for will lose him to us.

I know he impressed in his few weeks training with us.

"With AFL side Fremantle Dockers still keen on Ultan Kelm, Fermanagh could soon lose one of their most valuable assets."

Fermanagh boss Kieran Donnelly reveals why he extended his contract

KIERAN DONNELLY will offer his players a licence to kill when he returns for a fourth season as Fermanagh boss. The Brookeborough man is pleased with the progress made by his side since he was appo…

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Was hoping for the other Irish player tbh. Kelm is 25 and it'd probably take a year or two to get much out of him. Hope he's a way better prospect than the younger Irish guy we trialled otherwise it seems a weird decision.

 

[Quay Club]

Was hoping for the other Irish player tbh. Kelm is 25 and it'd probably take a year or two to get much out of him. Hope he's a way better prospect than the younger Irish guy we trialled otherwise it seems a weird decision.

He has been training with the AFL ball for the past few years and sending videos to the club regularly so he seems quite professional. I heard that the club was surprised how far he has progressed.

I agree with you his age is getting up there but he still has his pace.

The younger boy looks quick as well but the problem is list spots are tight.

 

[silverscope]

He has been training with the AFL ball for the past few years and sending videos to the club regularly so he seems quite professional. I heard that the club was surprised how far he has progressed.

I agree with you his age is getting up there but he still has his pace.

The younger boy looks quick as well but the problem is list spots are tight.

He almost came over last year or the one before? but was injured and out for a long period so stayed in Ireland. We've been keen on him for a while now

 

[oldgoat]

It may just be a throwaway line but this article suggests the Gaelic side that Ultan Kelm plays for will lose him to us.

I know he impressed in his few weeks training with us.

"With AFL side Fremantle Dockers still keen on Ultan Kelm, Fermanagh could soon lose one of their most valuable assets."

Fermanagh boss Kieran Donnelly reveals why he extended his contract

KIERAN DONNELLY will offer his players a licence to kill when he returns for a fourth season as Fermanagh boss. The Brookeborough man is pleased with the progress made by his side since he was appo…

www.google.com

We could send someone back?
To be fair, to be fair...

 

[oldgoat]

Why aren't more of you trawling Irish news for Freo relevant material. This is the level required.

Lift.

That would be "youse"....
And it would be grand sure.

 

[Docker82]

He has been training with the AFL ball for the past few years and sending videos to the club regularly so he seems quite professional. I heard that the club was surprised how far he has progressed.

I agree with you his age is getting up there but he still has his pace.

The younger boy looks quick as well but the problem is list spots are tight.

Three or four years is quite a lot IMO.

Let’s say it takes Kelm two years to play a game - he’s 27 by then. Normally you’re thinking about drafting a player to replace a senior player when they’re around 28 or 29 so you can get two to three years development in before the younger player is expected to take over.

A 21/22 year old takes that time and, if things go well, they’ve still got 6-7 years of prime left to make a difference.

As I said I’d hope Kelm is way way better than the other Irish guy otherwise I’d rather allow the extra years to develop into a good footballer.

Btw Gaelic players can only take up one Category B rookie spot so it just makes the list spots argument a little stronger. Category A rookies most of the time are more likely to contribute tbh. Having said that you can upgrade from Category B to Category A so if an Irish player does really well year one or two making them a Category A and bringing in another Irish may help. As I said a few pages back I think it’s likely we make more list changes next year than this year so we might need to get creative with the draftees we do bring in.