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Hey dont shoot the messenger about Degoey v Brayshaw! 
I wouldn’t do it either for what it’s worth. Mainly because of the cultural and leadership aspects that Andy provides that Degoey just… doesn’t.
It’s funny though - I’m certain if that proposed trade was presented on the pies board it would be the same reaction from their fans, but in the opposite direction.
I’m trying to be unbiased here, and I would say that Andy would have a similar trade value to someone like Sam Walsh. The only players on the freo list more valuable (in both $$ and potential trade value) in my opinion than Andy are Serong, Young, and Treacy.
Anyway he’s not leaving it was just HBG having a bit of fun.
Another one they came up with was Brennan Cox for Tom Barrass… consensus was the eagles would say no to that.
I wouldn’t do it either for what it’s worth. Mainly because of the cultural and leadership aspects that Andy provides that Degoey just… doesn’t.
It’s funny though - I’m certain if that proposed trade was presented on the pies board it would be the same reaction from their fans, but in the opposite direction.
I’m trying to be unbiased here, and I would say that Andy would have a similar trade value to someone like Sam Walsh. The only players on the freo list more valuable (in both $$ and potential trade value) in my opinion than Andy are Serong, Young, and Treacy.
Anyway he’s not leaving it was just HBG having a bit of fun.
Another one they came up with was Brennan Cox for Tom Barrass… consensus was the eagles would say no to that.
Hypothetical - assume we get Bolton for 9 & 16. Forget what other extras may come our way.
We have 10 and 27.
Also, assume we have no other players linked to us etc.
Do we give up 10 for North’s F1? Straight up exchange.
Means we hit the draft at 27.
Only bring in Bolton, but have 2 F1s for 2025.
Ours and North’s which will highly likely be inside top 6.
We have 10 and 27.
Also, assume we have no other players linked to us etc.
Do we give up 10 for North’s F1? Straight up exchange.
Means we hit the draft at 27.
Only bring in Bolton, but have 2 F1s for 2025.
Ours and North’s which will highly likely be inside top 6.
Anyone with a functioning noggin
If Bolton is all we're getting this year then absolutely take 10 to the draft. If we're getting Warner next year when he's out of contract then we can get him with whatever we already have. Just like how we got Jackson with a weak hand. If we get North's pick then it's going straight to Sydney for Chad.
Everyone's raving about this draft so I'd like to keep a good pick. Don't want a repeat of 2018 where we wasted picks on Lobb and Hogan when we could've had Rozee or King.
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Depends on Warner I think. If we know he's coming post contract then i probably don't do it. I'd rather take the first this year because it just gets eaten up in a Warner trade if you push it next year. There's no benefit from 'upgrading' it. In 2025 you just trade that first plus F1 for Warner.
If he's said to us nah I'm not committing to anything or there's other complications I'd consider it. Overall I'd rather take the picks this year given where our list is at but a potential top 3 is very tempting.
No.
That’s fair.
My point was more around North’s pick almost certainly being a bottom 6 pick, hence the discussion.
I think we should just use 10 too.
Another possible play is North splitting 2 with us for 9 and 10.
2 should almost certainly get us Bolton and 21. You’d think. Obviously, we wouldn’t do that trade unless it was known we could get extras from Richmond.
A 3 club trade could be an option. Maybe even 4 clubs.
North receive the pick to get Houston whilst still having a pick around 10.
Tigers get a pick inside 5.
Freo effectively lose 9&10 to get Bolton and 21.
In principle I like taking puts on future picks mainly with late first round picks.
Pick 10 in this deep draft is a better pick than a normal pick 10.
Think pick 10 drafted in 2024 is probably more suited to a potential premiership push than pick 6 drafted in 2025 tbh.
If you could guarantee that the 2025 pick is top three though I think I’d be very very tempted. No draft is so strong that pick three is likely to be better than pick ten the next year. If anything this year’s draft is actually lacking genuine star power at the top btw so next year pick three could even be better than pick one is this year.
I’d prefer to use 10 TBH in the draft.
If we end up with two R1 picks next year it will just make the Warner price even higher.
All we need is one first rounder next year to get into the Warner race
Wouldn’t even be against using pick 27 and whatever else is left over from the Bolton trade to get ourselves a second first rounder if possible tbh. Yes I’m aware a second first rounder is likely to be just after what Port’s pick is if it happens.
I’d still use three or four picks but St Kilda’s fourth rounder will do if we’re taking a third or fourth selection. After that I’d consider calling it a day.
I’d still use three or four picks but St Kilda’s fourth rounder will do if we’re taking a third or fourth selection. After that I’d consider calling it a day.
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With live trading there's winning options in this draft if we take 9 or 10 into the night. Hard to see how we lose, we either get our first top 10 pick since 2021 or we live trade it for a tasty premium
Freo get Bolton pick 6
Freo give 9, 10 17
North give pick 2
North receive houston pick 10
Port receive luko pick 9
Port give Houston second rounder
Gold Coast give pick 6 luko
Gold Coast receive Rioli second rounder
Richmond give Bolton Rioli
Richmond receive pick 2 17
Could see this is how it plays out seems pretty fair obviously there would be later picks thrown around to even it all up a bit
Freo give 9, 10 17
North give pick 2
North receive houston pick 10
Port receive luko pick 9
Port give Houston second rounder
Gold Coast give pick 6 luko
Gold Coast receive Rioli second rounder
Richmond give Bolton Rioli
Richmond receive pick 2 17
Could see this is how it plays out seems pretty fair obviously there would be later picks thrown around to even it all up a bit
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If you had a chance to go to Victoria would you pick North?
It's a **** no from me.
Nope.
I’d imagine he goes to Carlton, but North will be able to pay more. They’ll also likely be able to give Port a better deal even if through a 3rd party.
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