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[Passmore]

6+10 and 11 for 2 and our F1 is a good deal for both clubs, but going by the bleating Tiger media narrative, and the Tigers supporters, there’s little chance of that happening.
It’s the move we should be holding firm to, but Tiger media will rant on with “North offered its F1 for GC 13 and were knocked back, no way that deal is worth it. This draft is so deep(ie even), Richmond would be crazy to do that deal”
I actually think it’ll be 6+10 and 18 for 2 and F1……which doesn’t sit great with me. But the 10 is worth a lot more to us than just the one spot over 11.

Personally, if that's the best offer out there, I'd be holding 2 and our F1.

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[perplexed]

6+10 and 11 for 2 and our F1 is a good deal for both clubs, but going by the bleating Tiger media narrative, and the Tigers supporters, there’s little chance of that happening.
It’s the move we should be holding firm to, but Tiger media will rant on with “North offered its F1 for GC 13 and were knocked back, no way that deal is worth it. This draft is so deep(ie even), Richmond would be crazy to do that deal”
I actually think it’ll be 6+10 and 18 for 2 and F1……which doesn’t sit great with me. But the 10 is worth a lot more to us than just the one spot over 11.

I don't see why we would use our F1 this year. We will need it next year and we don't have enough free list spots to make it worthwhile.

 

[DuckYeah]

Fair. I’m just factoring in that next year will be affected by GC kids and a weaker draft.

But I’m only demonstrating there are far better scenarios than the ridiculous one put forward in the Sun. I don’t even know how that passes the Edit desk.

How the F is next year a weaker draft? I think this draft is weak.

 

[Wonderdog]

If we are happy to trade pick 2 for 6 it means we are confident that who we want at 6 will still be there. Which means we are not after a mid as Smillie, Smith, Lalor, Reid, FOs and Langford are all likely to be gone by the time 6 comes around.

 

[kool kangas]

I don't see why we would use our F1 this year. We will need it next year and we don't have enough free list spots to make it worthwhile.

As the saying goes "It better the devil you know than the devil you dont know"...We know where are this year but next year is an uncertainty. no doubt it will be an early pick but as we cant be sure where it will lie and there are some good players this year l think its best to trade F1st out and get another player....

In regards to spots: we can alway delist more players by paying out their contracts.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

6+10 and 11 for 2 and our F1 is a good deal for both clubs, but going by the bleating Tiger media narrative, and the Tigers supporters, there’s little chance of that happening.
It’s the move we should be holding firm to, but Tiger media will rant on with “North offered its F1 for GC 13 and were knocked back, no way that deal is worth it. This draft is so deep(ie even), Richmond would be crazy to do that deal”
I actually think it’ll be 6+10 and 18 for 2 and F1……which doesn’t sit great with me. But the 10 is worth a lot more to us than just the one spot over 11.

Regardless of whether we want to do that deal, I just don't think Richmond is all that eager to give up 3 of their early first round picks this year so it's a hypothetical that no-one really likes. 2 for 6 and 11 makes sense because they still end up with 1, 2, and 10. As soon as F1 comes into it, all proposed deals look unlikely.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

If we are happy to trade pick 2 for 6 it means we are confident that who we want at 6 will still be there. Which means we are not after a mid as Smillie, Smith, Lalor, Reid, FOs and Langford are all likely to be gone by the time 6 comes around.

You're forgetting Draper and you've listed 6 names. That means mathematically speaking, at least 2 of your 6 will be there when pick 6 comes around.

 

[roos 10]

2/ future 2nd for 6/11 I would do
Go to draft with 6/11/62
62 will come in to about 49

 

[DuckYeah]

Regardless of whether we want to do that deal, I just don't think Richmond is all that eager to give up 3 of their early first round picks this year so it's a hypothetical that no-one really likes. 2 for 6 and 11 makes sense because they still end up with 1, 2, and 10. As soon as F1 comes into it, all proposed deals look unlikely.

2 for 6/11 is the only deal. The rest is all moot

 

[ferball]

How the F is next year a weaker draft? I think this draft is weak.

Every year is stronger/weaker than next/last year.

Its all bollox to keep people in the AFL media industry junket in "work".

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

If F1 and 2 are being packaged together then:

at minimum North would want a top 5 pick (Tauru) and two other firsts (top 15); and North have three players in mind that they are after (probably a KPF, a sliding classy mid and a small to round round out the speculative group of Payne, RHJ, Harvey and Konnie).

We currently don’t have the list spots to facilitate these trades however.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

2 for 6/11 is the only deal. The rest is all moot

Wouldn’t mind throwing the 2025 R3 as well (pick 40-45) to get it over the line.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Wouldn’t mind throwing the 2025 R3 as well (pick 40-45) to get it over the line.

 

[Nutjob]

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We signing Spider Everett?


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[The Talent Scout]

Not sure what has happened in trade week to make some tigers fans think you’d take 6,10 for 2 and your F1. ****ing insane. Won’t happen.

More likely 6,10,11 for 2 and F1.

On points it’s like 4000 in (after academy) for 4200 out.

I think that’s a better deal for both. The mooted Herald Sun deal won’t happen.

If the Tigers LM dont like it then I’d tell them to get ****ed if I was North. Someone will come for that pick. Be patient.

Now that is a sensible post, the Herald Sun deal is quite funny to be honest.

 

[The Talent Scout]

If we are happy to trade pick 2 for 6 it means we are confident that who we want at 6 will still be there. Which means we are not after a mid as Smillie, Smith, Lalor, Reid, FOs and Langford are all likely to be gone by the time 6 comes around.

That would seem to be the reason, which is why the two players I keep mentioning are going to be around that pick, some of the other key position players won't be around that pick #6 mark but at the moment its a moot point until we see what picks we end up with and even then they might swap during the draft.

 

[Chewy Chewman]

The fact that we don’t have the list spots to trade our F1 just shows how out of the touch the media really is.

Probably more reliable to just ask my psychic on Sydney road who we’ll draft.

 

[New_Roo]

The fact that we don’t have the list spots to trade our F1 just shows how out of the touch the media really is.

Probably more reliable to just ask my psychic on Sydney road who we’ll draft.

But that can change still....


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[the big lebowski]

Bold statement time

If you put Langfords contested mark compilation for 2024 up against Dusrmas for 2023, you’d be more impressed with Langford and it would go for twice as long.

* note I’m not saying that he’s a head surfer like durs just that his hands in aerial contests are close to the best I’ve seen

 

[DuckYeah]

Bold statement time

If you put Langfords contested mark compilation for 2024 up against Dusrmas for 2023, you’d be more impressed with Langford and it would go for twice as long.

* note I’m not saying that he’s a head surfer like durs just that his hands in aerial contests are close to the best I’ve seen

Who has the better shot for goal?

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Bold statement time

If you put Langfords contested mark compilation for 2024 up against Dusrmas for 2023, you’d be more impressed with Langford and it would go for twice as long.

* note I’m not saying that he’s a head surfer like durs just that his hands in aerial contests are close to the best I’ve seen

He is genuinely one of if not the best contested mark in this year's draft class regardless of position.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Depth list by position

Midfielder

1. Levi Ashcroft
2. Jagga Smith
3. Harvey Langford
4. Sid Draper
5. Finn O'Sullivan
6. Josh Smillie
7. Leo Lombard
8. Xavier Lindsay
9. Tom Gross
10. Christian Moraes

Key Defender

1. Luke Trainor
2. Alix Tauru
3. Matt Whitlock
4. Harry O'Farrell
5. James Barrett
6. Noah Mraz
7. Adrian Cole

Key Forward

1. Jack Whitlock
2. Harry Armstrong
3. Kayle Gerreyn
4. Jobe Shanahan
5. Jonty Faull
6. Tom Sims
7. Gabriel Stumpf
8. Charlie Nicholls
9. Charlie West
10. Max Rohr

General Defender

1. Tobie Travaglia
2. Harrison Oliver
3. Lachie Jacques
4. Jaxson Artemis
5. Harry Charleson
6. Riley Bice
7. Louie Montgomery

General Forward
1. Isaac Kako
2. Joe Berry
3. Oliver Hannaford
4. Jesse Dattoli
5. Malakai Champion
6. Jasper Alger
7. Archer Day-Wicks
8. Josh Murphy
9. Evan Bradley
10. Bailey McKenzie


Utility (mid/wing/fwd/df)

1. Sam Lalor
2. Murphy Reid
3. Taj Hotton
4. Bo Allan
5. Cooper Hynes
6. Jack Ough
7. Zach Johnson
8. Hamish Davis
9. Luca Greggo
10. Pat Retschko

 

[the big lebowski]

Who has the better shot for goal?

Not sure on that one. Langford overall is a longer more penetrating kick.

His kick over the year seemed to get better and better. I wouldn’t say he’s in the top 5 in his draft class, however he’s close.

Durs I never had down as a great kick. Certainly he didn’t show that at afl level. Missed a few easy set shots. And turned it over a heap taking risky kicks into the middle.

Based on all that I guess I’d have Langford as the better kick around goal and likely set shot as well.

 

[Only Forwards]

If we retain pick 2 we need to walk away with one of the first 5. Purely because they should add to the class that we already have and will make our midfield incredibly powerful into the future. We do kinda lack a point of difference large mid, however the cream here are not that.

Midfielder

1. Levi Ashcroft
2. Jagga Smith
3. Harvey Langford
4. Sid Draper
5. Finn O'Sullivan
6. Josh Smillie
7. Leo Lombard
8. Xavier Lindsay
9. Tom Gross
10. Christian Moraes

If we either split 2 or a F1 we need to walk away with two of the first 4-5 from each of these lists.

Key Defender

1. Luke Trainor
2. Alix Tauru
3. Matt Whitlock
4. Harry O'Farrell
5. James Barrett
6. Noah Mraz
7. Adrian Cole

Key Forward

1. Jack Whitlock
2. Harry Armstrong
3. Kayle Gerreyn
4. Jobe Shanahan
5. Jonty Faull
6. Tom Sims
7. Gabriel Stumpf
8. Charlie Nicholls
9. Charlie West
10. Max Rohr

Konstanty and Stevens (likely rookie) has hurt the need for a small forward.

IMO we cannot spend any more draft capital on tweeners when we have gaping holes in the long term key positions, especially forward considering the last KPF we spent any capital on at all was pick 30 in 2019.

General Defender

1. Tobie Travaglia
2. Harrison Oliver
3. Lachie Jacques
4. Jaxson Artemis
5. Harry Charleson
6. Riley Bice
7. Louie Montgomery

General Forward
1. Isaac Kako
2. Joe Berry
3. Oliver Hannaford
4. Jesse Dattoli
5. Malakai Champion
6. Jasper Alger
7. Archer Day-Wicks
8. Josh Murphy
9. Evan Bradley
10. Bailey McKenzie


Utility (mid/wing/fwd/df)

1. Sam Lalor
2. Murphy Reid
3. Taj Hotton
4. Bo Allan
5. Cooper Hynes
6. Jack Ough
7. Zach Johnson
8. Hamish Davis
9. Luca Greggo
10. Pat Retschko

 

[kool kangas]

Depth list by position

Midfielder

1. Levi Ashcroft
2. Jagga Smith
3. Harvey Langford
4. Sid Draper
5. Finn O'Sullivan
6. Josh Smillie
7. Leo Lombard


Key Defender

1. Luke Trainor
2. Alix Tauru
3. Matt Whitlock
4. Harry O'Farrell


Key Forward

1. Jack Whitlock
2. Harry Armstrong
3. Kayle Gerreyn
4. Jobe Shanahan


General Defender

1. Tobie Travaglia
2. Harrison Oliver
3. Lachie Jacques


General Forward
1. Isaac Kako
2. Joe Berry
3. Oliver Hannaford
4. Jesse Dattoli
5. Malakai Champion



Utility (mid/wing/fwd/df)

1. Sam Lalor
2. Murphy Reid
3. Taj Hotton
4. Bo Allan

Great list . l would only be looking at these if l was picking players for us...so we would need to split our F1st if we can as l dont want to split our pick#2