Review 2024 National Draft Thread Part Deux - Welcome FOS, M.Whitlock, L.Urquhart & River Stevens

[roos_fanatic08]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1253749...SBfERTRUCOiyGmrliM_aem_3SNkMkWfcR77BJFq2LMTPg

 

[Merlin007]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1253749...SBfERTRUCOiyGmrliM_aem_3SNkMkWfcR77BJFq2LMTPg

A couple of important stats here, courtesy of the AFL sub editor:

Jack Ough
Pronunciation: Our
Jhett Haeata
Pronunciation: Hi-eta

But no need for this one, 'coz we had our own Super Gav, the one tackle wonder:

Luke Urquhart
Pronunciation: Irk-heart

 

[roos_fanatic08]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1253749...SBfERTRUCOiyGmrliM_aem_3SNkMkWfcR77BJFq2LMTPg

Personally, I think the following players will offer real value later on in the draft:

Hugh Boxshall
State: Western Australia
State League Club: Claremont
Community Club: Swanbourne
Date of Birth: 11/07/2006
Height: 187cm

Medium midfielder with a real competitive edge. Wins the contested ball with his clean hands and uses his vision and awareness to set up his teammates. Strong overhead and an aggressive tackler, he had a real positive impact for Western Australia when he returned from injury, playing the last three games of the National Championships where he averaged 18.7 disposals (eight contested) and was among his side’s best against South Australia and Victoria Country. Finished the year in outstanding form at Colts level, being among the best afield with 30 disposals in Claremont’s Grand Final-winning team. Was outstanding in testing at the state Draft Combine in Perth, ranking second on the 2km time trial (6:08), third on the agility test (7.98 seconds) and fourth on the running vertical jump (86cm).

Lucca Grego
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Western Jets
Community Club: Keilor
Date of Birth: 15/09/2006
Height: 184cm

Medium midfielder/defender who is a competitive and resilient type. Strong one-on-one and in the air, as well as being an excellent decision maker. A prolific ball winner at club level through the midfield, he adapted to play an important role in defence for Victoria Metro at the National Championships. Averaged 13 disposals in four matches for Metro, including being among his team’s best players against the Allies. Captained the Western Jets in the Coates Talent League and had an outstanding year, averaging 23 disposals (8.5 contested) and kicking seven goals in 13 matches to finish third in their best and fairest award. Tested extremely well at the state Draft Combine, ranking second on the agility test at the Melbourne event with a time of 7.96 seconds. His speed (3.01 seconds on the 20m sprint) and endurance (6:32 on the 2km time trial) were also strong performances.

Patrick Retschko
Pronunciation: Rech-co
State: Victoria Metro
State League Club: Oakleigh Chargers
Community Club: Caulfield Grammarians
Date of Birth: 28/02/2006
Height: 186m

Powerfully built midfielder who can play on both the inside and outside, using his burst of speed and long kicking to open up the game. Was a member of Victoria Metro’s title-winning team at the National Championships and was one of the best players in the win over the Allies with 24 disposals, seven marks and six inside-50s. Had a consistent year for the Oakleigh Chargers in the Coates Talent League, averaging 17 disposals in nine matches. Reminded scouts of his endurance with an outstanding 6:07 seconds in the 2km time trial, which ranked first of any player to test at a state Draft Combine event.

 

[sydney_gws]

They have 6 and 11 too

That’s what it would take

Otherwise we take Lalor or FOS

They might try do 6,10 and 11 and change for 2 and F1

Hello, what do you think North/ GWS could do.
Would 2025F1,F3 for 21, GWS F1 be an option?
You can then split 21 into say 24 ,30 if you want multiple decent picks.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Hello, what do you think North/ GWS could do.
Would 2025F1,F3 for 21, GWS F1 be an option?
You can then split 21 into say 24 ,30 if you want multiple decent picks.

We’d at a min be wanting 15 or 16 with your f1 instead of 21

And wouldn’t be throwing an f3 back

 

[LB2Snake]

Hello, what do you think North/ GWS could do.
Would 2025F1,F3 for 21, GWS F1 be an option?
You can then split 21 into say 24 ,30 if you want multiple decent picks.

For me, at this point in time, I’d hope we don’t do that deal. Maybe F1 swaps for one of the 15/16……..but I think our F1 is more valuable than the Tig/Tok dudes value it at.
We will see

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

A couple of important stats here, courtesy of the AFL sub editor:

Jack Ough
Pronunciation: Our
Jhett Haeata
Pronunciation: Hi-eta

But no need for this one, 'coz we had our own Super Gav, the one tackle wonder:

Luke Urquhart
Pronunciation: Irk-heart

Have they issued the directive on Smillie pronunciation? That's going to take a while to filter through to the boofheads in commentary.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk

The same analytics that led to selecting Jack Mahony?

 

[Passmore]

The same analytics that led to selecting Jack Mahony?

Possibly. Who knows.

It would be foolhardy to ignore them completely.

Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk

 

[The Dingrel]

Who is our ITK that says we're taking FOS?

Just wondering, have Carlton traded up to 3 for FOS and hell bent on him? If we were to take FOS after bidding on Ashcroft, any chance of us trading our F1 for Carlton's pick 3 and a swap of F2's?

 

[Juice030103]

I really rate Colby too in response to all of you that replied. Would be pick 1 in this years draft I reckon. Thanks for the replies

Think you guys jump up next year, absolutely love your talent

Good luck with the draft

 

[Shermanator]

I really rate Colby too in response to all of you that replied. Would be pick 1 in this years draft I reckon. Thanks for the replies

Think you guys jump up next year, absolutely love your talent

Good luck with the draft

 

[My Left Foote]

Just wondering, have Carlton traded up to 3 for FOS and hell bent on him? If we were to take FOS after bidding on Ashcroft, any chance of us trading our F1 for Carlton's pick 3 and a swap of F2's?

From what I'm lead to believe we're into Draper and Carlton are into FOS but who knows, it's so hard to tell. I think we should definitely bid on Ashcroft at 2 and then see what who wants to talk to us about pick 2.

 

[year of the roo]

I really rate Colby too in response to all of you that replied. Would be pick 1 in this years draft I reckon. Thanks for the replies

Think you guys jump up next year, absolutely love your talent

Good luck with the draft

Yeah yeah yeah, what you selling man?

 

[LB2Snake]

Yeah there's usually a "but" in most visitor's posts at some stage.........waiting

 

[Passmore]

From what I'm lead to believe we're into Draper and Carlton are into FOS but who knows, it's so hard to tell. I think we should definitely bid on Ashcroft at 2 and then see what who wants to talk to us about pick 2.

Allegedly Carlton have been to see Draper, so who knows.

One learned gent here says Finn is our man, another says we're into Draper.

So welcome aboard Jagga?

Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Allegedly Carlton have been to see Draper, so who knows.

One learned gent here says Finn is our man, another says we're into Draper.

So welcome aboard Jagga?

Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk

If Draper is in their top 3, you would expect them to see him again recently especially being from interstate.

He may be no 2 on their board and are expecting their top choice to be gone. They should be covering all bases.

 

[The Dingrel]

From what I'm lead to believe we're into Draper and Carlton are into FOS but who knows, it's so hard to tell. I think we should definitely bid on Ashcroft at 2 and then see what who wants to talk to us about pick 2.

Yeah bidding on Ashcroft at 2 would give us more time on the clock to negotiate as well....ie/ take the full time allocation to put the bid in, and then the clock resets. AFL will love the drama.

 

[Passmore]

If Draper is in their top 3, you would expect them to see him again recently especially being from interstate.

He may be no 2 on their board and are expecting their top choice to be gone. They should be covering all bases.

Yes, well he could be. Could be top.

Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk

 

[giantroo]

AFL Draft news: North Melbourne consider splitting pick 2 and trading future-first round pick​

North Melbourne could take a huge risk in a deal that would see their future-first round pick owned by a rival club. JON RALPH looks at the Kangaroos’ options.
Jon Ralph
@RalphyHeraldSun

2 min read
November 12, 2024 - 3:44PM

North Melbourne is considering offers for its No.2 pick and its future first-round selection but says securing a pair of key talls in last year’s draft means it will not “overstretch” to find a key forward in next week’s national draft.

The Roos have pick two and a pair of selections in the 60s to take to the national draft and are keen to take three national draft picks to continue to bolster their young talent.

It means the Roos seem certain to make moves to secure another early selection in the top 20 given their only quality pick is the No.2 overall selection.

The Tigers could be interested in moving up to pick two but not in a deal that sees them give up two top 12 selections for that pick alone.

Clubs are also keen to assess the worth of North Melbourne’s future first-rounder, which is likely to be a top-five pick.

CHECK BACK TOMORROW MORNING FOR JON RALPH’S TAKE ON NORTH MELBOURNE’S FULL DRAFT STRATEGY, LIST HOLES AND PREDICTIONS FOR 2025.

North Melbourne General Manager of Football Todd Viney believes the Roos will be making moves before the end of draft night. Picture: Michael Klein

Viney said that the Roos knew the risks of handing over a future first-rounder but have maximum flexibility given they have retained their entire 2025 draft hand.

“We are keen to have at least three picks in the draft,” he said.

“We might end up holding one list spot over. We can trade up until the night.

“We have got pick two and there is interest in that. We have still got a full hand of futures.

“There are still opportunities to look at how we can improve this year’s draft hand.

“If we can get in we will but we have to have the right opportunity in front of us.

“Brady (Rawlings) is in constant communication with other teams and lists and we think something will unfold but we will wait and see

“The whole thing around futures is you don’t exactly know where it’s going to be. At the moment (the future first-rounder) would look attractive to some clubs

“It is a tough competition and it’s hard to improve but we want to win more games.

“You don’t know where it will end up but our future first would look attractive to some clubs who want to look at it.”

The Roos believe Caleb Daniel

5

Caleb Daniel

Age

28

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

’s introduction at half back will at times release Colby McKercher into the midfield, with second-year top 25 pick Riley Hardeman to be given chances on the wing.


Ex-Sydney small forward Jacob Konstanty comes with few wraps but the club loved his junior NAB League season before he was taken at pick 20 and believes the hard-tackling pressure forward fills a critical need.

The Roos recruited 207cm ruck-defender Taylor Goad and 200cm swingman Will Dawson in last year’s draft.

While it would surprise if they did not find a way to take a key forward in this year’s draft, Viney said the club wasn’t prepared to go away from its draft order in a desperate bid to find support for Nick Larkey

20

Nick Larkey

Age

26

Ht

198cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.8

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.8

4star

.

“It’s important you don’t try to overreach and look for the needs. We did go pretty heavy last year with those picks and we went early to get the likes of Goad and Dawson,” he said.

“We think talls are hard to come by and sometimes your picks don’t align with that you want so you have to weigh it up. There are some nice looking talls but whether its at pick two, we will have to wait and see. There is outstanding talent all-round.”

 

[Merlin007]

AFL Draft news: North Melbourne consider splitting pick 2 and trading future-first round pick​

North Melbourne could take a huge risk in a deal that would see their future-first round pick owned by a rival club. JON RALPH looks at the Kangaroos’ options.
Jon Ralph
@RalphyHeraldSun

2 min read
November 12, 2024 - 3:44PM

North Melbourne is considering offers for its No.2 pick and its future first-round selection but says securing a pair of key talls in last year’s draft means it will not “overstretch” to find a key forward in next week’s national draft.

The Roos have pick two and a pair of selections in the 60s to take to the national draft and are keen to take three national draft picks to continue to bolster their young talent.

It means the Roos seem certain to make moves to secure another early selection in the top 20 given their only quality pick is the No.2 overall selection.

The Tigers could be interested in moving up to pick two but not in a deal that sees them give up two top 12 selections for that pick alone.

Clubs are also keen to assess the worth of North Melbourne’s future first-rounder, which is likely to be a top-five pick.

CHECK BACK TOMORROW MORNING FOR JON RALPH’S TAKE ON NORTH MELBOURNE’S FULL DRAFT STRATEGY, LIST HOLES AND PREDICTIONS FOR 2025.

North Melbourne General Manager of Football Todd Viney believes the Roos will be making moves before the end of draft night. Picture: Michael Klein

Viney said that the Roos knew the risks of handing over a future first-rounder but have maximum flexibility given they have retained their entire 2025 draft hand.

“We are keen to have at least three picks in the draft,” he said.

“We might end up holding one list spot over. We can trade up until the night.

“We have got pick two and there is interest in that. We have still got a full hand of futures.

“There are still opportunities to look at how we can improve this year’s draft hand.

“If we can get in we will but we have to have the right opportunity in front of us.

“Brady (Rawlings) is in constant communication with other teams and lists and we think something will unfold but we will wait and see

“The whole thing around futures is you don’t exactly know where it’s going to be. At the moment (the future first-rounder) would look attractive to some clubs

“It is a tough competition and it’s hard to improve but we want to win more games.

“You don’t know where it will end up but our future first would look attractive to some clubs who want to look at it.”

The Roos believe Caleb Daniel’s introduction at half back will at times release Colby McKercher into the midfield, with second-year top 25 pick Riley Hardeman to be given chances on the wing.


Ex-Sydney small forward Jacob Konstanty comes with few wraps but the club loved his junior NAB League season before he was taken at pick 20 and believes the hard-tackling pressure forward fills a critical need.

The Roos recruited 207cm ruck-defender Taylor Goad and 200cm swingman Will Dawson in last year’s draft.

While it would surprise if they did not find a way to take a key forward in this year’s draft, Viney said the club wasn’t prepared to go away from its draft order in a desperate bid to find support for Nick Larkey.

“It’s important you don’t try to overreach and look for the needs. We did go pretty heavy last year with those picks and we went early to get the likes of Goad and Dawson,” he said.

“We think talls are hard to come by and sometimes your picks don’t align with that you want so you have to weigh it up. There are some nice looking talls but whether its at pick two, we will have to wait and see. There is outstanding talent all-round.”

It must be dreary sometimes in one of these jobs - having to stand in front of people to state the obvious and make it sound as though its the equivalent of cracking the atom

 

[giantroo]

So our picks are picks 2, 62, 76, 86.

 

[JGreezy]

Does that article actually mention a trade involving our F1? I read it and couldn't see anything.

 

[MagicDaw]

Does that article actually mention a trade involving our F1? I read it and couldn't see anything.

Nope. Just that our F1 might look attractive to other clubs.

 

[JGreezy]

I reckon that it's entirely plausible that a few teams could draft their highest ranked players on their draft boards outside of the top 5 in this draft.

Lalor is fine but could easily be ranked 10th best player on a draft board. He's getting talked into a consensus top 3 pick in the last month, but he was 6th in Twomey's September rankings.

I expect a lot of opportunities for trades on draft night, as teams shuffle around to match their different rankings.