Review 2024 National Draft Thread Part Deux - Welcome FOS, M.Whitlock, L.Urquhart & River Stevens

[chubbspeterson]

Please NMFC do not waste pick 2 on Tauru.

We need best available and there's no way he will be that at pick 2.

I prefer Smith, by miles, but I'll be happy with Langford, Lalor or Draper. Or O'Sullivan, even.

I damn well hope the club are not dumb enough to fall for the Tauru media hype. He looks a great prospect, but NOT AT PICK 2.

PLEASE.

Jagga is the one I least want, too similar to Sheez and doesn't offer much point of difference with either a bigger/taller frame, versatility to play other positions and/or speed and defensive intensity.
He'll be a very good player and is classy with his ball use. I just think others give us something we don't have already.
FOS, Lalor, Smillie or Draper is the four I'd look at. Langford don't want, not interested in playing for us.
If we slide back and go talls then try get a couple out of Tauru/Shanahan/J Whitlock/Armstrong/Trainor.
Should be an interesting draft night with what we do.

 

[Kangas_11]

Man, I know I sound like a homer, but you would have to be monumentally stupid to be an 18 year old and decide that North is the team you want to avoid in this draft. You get to slot into a team with Sheezel, Wardlaw, McKercher all around your age, plenty of opportunity to start and join a team that should improve rapidly.

I get Langford is a Tigers fan, but they are going to be absolutely woeful for years. All the chips are in on this draft, but they have an absolutely empty cupboard with regards to talented youth. Would be even funnier if he landed at the imploding Dee's though.

 

[justroyal]

I feel like this was written purely for us so other teams can score their picks

AFL Draft: Pairing the ideal prospect with each team's first pick

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[Chip Scab1]

I feel like this was written purely for us so other teams can score their picks

AFL Draft: Pairing the ideal prospect with each team's first pick

18 clubs. 18 different prospects. See who your team might have their eye on👇

www.zerohanger.com

Maybe more so than you immediately envisioned. Trainor gets through the first few seasons unscathed, then misses a few Ice Baths before requesting a trade back to his native home, us, for a few meddling picks. Meanwhile, Dawson comes in a fills Corrs role meaning there's a spot for him at CHB.

It could be beautiful irony if Port develop him well and he is able to get some finals experience before putting the go slows on and returning home.

 

[DesertRoo]

Jagga is the one I least want, too similar to Sheez and doesn't offer much point of difference with either a bigger/taller frame, versatility to play other positions and/or speed and defensive intensity.
He'll be a very good player and is classy with his ball use. I just think others give us something we don't have already.
FOS, Lalor, Smillie or Draper is the four I'd look at. Langford don't want, not interested in playing for us.
If we slide back and go talls then try get a couple out of Tauru/Shanahan/J Whitlock/Armstrong/Trainor.
Should be an interesting draft night with what we do.

Oh nose another Sheez what shall we do??



Come on man if Sheez was in this draft he’d be first picked.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

I think it'll be a trade down to Adelaide to get more capital next year, to still take whoever is left of FOS/Draper/Smith, then trade the F1 & the F2 from the Adelaide deal back into the late single digits/early teens if Tauru is still available.

I agree. We get one of the best mids of this draft class and the player we have a hardon for.

Still, that is 2, 2-5 & 28(ish) for two players. It’s a heavy cost.

 

[Passmore]

I think it'll be a trade down to Adelaide to get more capital next year, to still take whoever is left of FOS/Draper/Smith, then trade the F1 & the F2 from the Adelaide deal back into the late single digits/early teens if Tauru is still available.

Make it happen and you’ll no longer be flawed.

 

[travelli]

Jagga is the one I least want, too similar to Sheez and doesn't offer much point of difference with either a bigger/taller frame, versatility to play other positions and/or speed and defensive intensity.
He'll be a very good player and is classy with his ball use. I just think others give us something we don't have already.
FOS, Lalor, Smillie or Draper is the four I'd look at. Langford don't want, not interested in playing for us.
If we slide back and go talls then try get a couple out of Tauru/Shanahan/J Whitlock/Armstrong/Trainor.
Should be an interesting draft night with what we do.

I think you are forgetting how good sheez is. Goes hard, creates space, cool, almost always makes the right decision. Get jagga in and we are really making a possible all time midfield.

Made me think of the lions 2001 line up. Look at the ages there. We really have to make inroads next year

Brisbane Playing List for 2001 - Draftguru

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[chubbspeterson]

Oh nose another Sheez what shall we do??



Come on man if Sheez as in this draft he’d be first picked.

Yeah top 3 pick problems, am I right? Anyway, just my feelings on how he would fit with us.
Might mean Sheezel spends more time up forward if we took Jagga. Needs to get better defensively.
And yes Sheez would be no. 1.

 

[perplexed]

I think it'll be a trade down to Adelaide to get more capital next year, to still take whoever is left of FOS/Draper/Smith, then trade the F1 & the F2 from the Adelaide deal back into the late single digits/early teens if Tauru is still available.

I think that is exactly what we are planning. This seems crazy to me, considering we could trade down to 7 with St Kilda, take Tauru there and be left with two F1s. We are deciding instead to effectively use those two F1s on the mid we take at 4. I'm sure they will be a gun, but is trashing next year's draft hand and taking another mid really the best use of our resources?

 

[chubbspeterson]

I think you are forgetting how good sheez is. Goes hard, creates space, cool, almost always makes the right decision. Get jagga in and we are really making a possible all time midfield.

Made me think of the lions 2001 line up. Look at the ages there. We really have to make inroads next year

Brisbane Playing List for 2001 - Draftguru

www.draftguru.com.au

Where did I say Sheez was no good? He's the best kid we've drafted in 25 years.
I'm just thinking more about the balance to the team and complementary pieces.
Wardlaw and LDU are the explosive powerful guys. Colby is the engine and speed. Sheez is the class and endurance.
I think we could use a bit more versatility of position, speed and defensive intensity in the team.
If we took Jagga then I guess Sheezel would spend more time forward because Jagga can't really play anywhere else on the ground (maybe half back?).
Harry is stronger in the contest than Jagga. Jagga's slight frame and defensive pressure need work.
I don't think he plays in the middle, he needs to find another spot in the team whilst he builds his body for midfield time.

 

[Topparoo]

Jagga is the one I least want, too similar to Sheez and doesn't offer much point of difference with either a bigger/taller frame, versatility to play other positions and/or speed and defensive intensity.
He'll be a very good player and is classy with his ball use. I just think others give us something we don't have already.
FOS, Lalor, Smillie or Draper is the four I'd look at. Langford don't want, not interested in playing for us.
If we slide back and go talls then try get a couple out of Tauru/Shanahan/J Whitlock/Armstrong/Trainor.
Should be an interesting draft night with what we do.

Too similar to Sheez? How is that a bad thing?

 

[Ball Dont Lie]

Too similar to Sheez? How is that a bad thing?

I don’t follow the draft. I have no idea who is good or who isn’t. But if a player is described as similar to Harry then that’s the boy I would take!I don’t need to hear anything else.

 

[Karanicolas]

Keep 2 and pick the best talent available. You can always find a spot for talented players.

 

[Karanicolas]

It is like Brisbane saying this Ashcroft is too similar to the other Ashcroft that won a Norm Smith, so we will pass.

 

[DesertRoo]

Yeah top 3 pick problems, am I right? Anyway, just my feelings on how he would fit with us.
Might mean Sheezel spends more time up forward if we took Jagga. Needs to get better defensively.
And yes Sheez would be no. 1.

Sheez is the only player I’d happily have three or four of in a team, in his first season, he goes back, after two weeks of training, brains it, becoming on of the most damaging half backs in the league, moves to midfield/hff second season and hasn’t missed a beat.

Yeah if he was there, you take it and run. Problem with this draft is there isn’t the top end talent of other years.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Too similar to Sheez? How is that a bad thing?

Didn't say it'd be a bad thing if we took him, just think there are some players that would complement what we have.
FOS/Lalor/Draper bring more defensive pressure, which we are putrid in, and are able to play in other positions on the field. Jagga isn't going to start in the guts with his slight frame and he's going to have to play somewhere else like Colby did.
Long term it would mean Sheez spends more time up forward, so it'd be an interesting fit if we went with Jagga.
Anyway, just my take on it. If you're in love with Smith so be it. I never questioned his ability at all.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Sheez is the only player I’d happily have three or four of in a team, in his first season, he goes back, after two weeks of training, brains it, becoming on of the most damaging half backs in the league, moves to midfield/hff second season and hasn’t missed a beat.

Yeah if he was there, you take it and run. Problem with this draft is there isn’t the top end talent of other years.

I haven't said anything about Jagga's fit that Soup, RF08 or Sphynx haven't said already, but I guess people are getting caught up in the similar to Sheez comment. You can have similar tools but be not quite as good as Sheezel.
Jagga doesn't create the same score involvements that Harry does and isn't as strong in the contest, so just wonder where he fits in the side long term. If they think he's the best player you take him and figure it out.

 

[chubbspeterson]

I don’t follow the draft. I have no idea who is good or who isn’t. But if a player is described as similar to Harry then that’s the boy I would take!I don’t need to hear anything else.

There's some similarities with the professionalism, footy IQ and composure when making decisions, but I don't think he's necessarily as good or versatile as Harry who showed the ability to go forward and create score involvements.
But maybe Jagga could excel at half back to start with while he builds his frame. Wait and see what we do.
I guess I just like the defensive intensity/tackling and burst of FOS/Draper/Lalor.

 

[The Talent Scout]

I don’t give a feck how good he is or might be, if he tanked his interview with us he’s dead to me.

IF, and I mean IF he tanked his interview or shall I say purposely tried to fail his answers then that would be a big RED sign for me, that would mean his attitude is not where it needs to be and that would be a real shame. Its worth noting that over the years many young boys look as if this is the case but the majority of them can be put down in three categories,
1/ Nerves
2/ Players just being themselves {Some players are quite laid back and some are just not good at interviews, for various reasons}
3/ Rivalry {Nearly everyone has a club or two that they don't like or can't stand for different reasons, while its rare, while interviewing fine at 16 other clubs, the two clubs that the youngster bombed out at would seem to me as not a coincidence, recruiters would look for red flags in the whole interview process as well as other things, that's why if a player has ability but his mental side of things are lacking then that will be weighed up with everything else and all clubs would be aware of the players situation hence why some clubs pass on some players.}

The only people that would know if Harvey did this would be Brady and Will, they are not silly, I've got such a big opinion of Will that he would see through that very quickly if that was the case but the lad must be given a chance to retain his innocence, I haven't seen his interviews yet but I'm going to watch his AFL interview now, to get my personal view on him, curiosity, didn't it kill the cat?

 

[giantroo]

 

[Merlin007]

Whereupon Will says something to the effect of; we’re open to trading down from 2, but it has to be the right deal for us. And of course we have our full hand for next year, so that gives us flexibility to improve our hand this year, but again it has to be the right deal for us.

I could do this; how much are they paying these people?

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Whereupon Will says something to the effect of; we’re open to trading down from 2, but it has to be the right deal for us. And of course we have our full hand for next year, so that gives us flexibility to improve our hand this year, but again it has to be the right deal for us.

I could do this; how much are they paying these people?

Imagine if their only job was to say in interviews pick trades need to be good for us. Probably why nobody has any idea who we might draft.

 

[Gotta_Bea_Hero]

Keep 2 and pick the best talent available. You can always find a spot for talented players.

Also to, if we lose LDU to free agency and Colby decides to play for Tassie, we are a couple of elite midfielders down. We just have to pick the best available at the pointy end of the draft.



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[Flawed Genius]

I think that is exactly what we are planning. This seems crazy to me, considering we could trade down to 7 with St Kilda, take Tauru there and be left with two F1s. We are deciding instead to effectively use those two F1s on the mid we take at 4. I'm sure they will be a gun, but is trashing next year's draft hand and taking another mid really the best use of our resources?

It's probably whether you prefer two players in this draft or two players next year. Clearly the hype is for this year & we have to stop drafting players eventually.