Preview 2024 Rd 15 Carlton v Geelong Friday 21 June 7:40PM (AEST) @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

TEAM IS IN …


IN: Fantasia

OUT: Carroll

AFL team news: Blues make one change

It's a relatively settled 23 for the Blues heading into the 2024 AFL Carlton Respects Game.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Jordan Boyd	Jacob Weitering	Brodie Kemp
Half-backs:	Nic Newman	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Ollie Hollands	Patrick Cripps	Blake Acres
Half-forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Harry McKay	Zac Williams
Forwards:	Matthew Owies	Charlie Curnow	Alex Cincotta
Followers:	Tom De Koning	Sam Walsh	George Hewett
Interchange from:	Lachie Cowan	Corey Durdin	Orazio Fantasia
	Elijah Hollands	Matthew Kennedy
Emergencies:	Caleb Marchbank	Jesse Motlop	Marc Pittonet

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

I think Williams will engage Stewart

Cincotta to Holmes

I reckon the ideal match up for Stewart would be Gov, but there's little chance we take away Gov's drive from our defensive half. Gov goes to Stewart, Marchy comes into defence.

Cincotta to Holmes or Danger, depending on who's getting off the leash.

 

[Graffy4242]

He was a gun. 2022 was a long time ago now.

Managed 6 games last year. 4 this year.

He's nearly 32. The body is cooked. Should retire at year-end.

I think you could cut & paste this for half the Cat's team

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Last time we played them, bruhn had it 19 times and cam Guthrie 27.
O.Henry and touey kicked 3 each

 

[The Fantom]

Last time we played them, bruhn had it 19 times and cam Guthrie 27.
O.Henry and touey kicked 3 each

Henry is the one that worries me, he likes kicking goals against us, has a good record.

 

[Jatz]

Yeah I honestly wish Cam Guthrie had been playing.

There's a few down at the Cattery that have gone a year too long.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Just read that about Bruhn, Danger will have to spend most time in the midfield then


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Bad luck for Bruhn, dare I say it is good luck for us!

He’s been handy & will force Danger into the middle coming off a 6 week hammy.

Much prefer he doesn’t play forward!

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

The amount of space we allowed them last time was a key factor in their ability to move the ball at will far too easily, and score, there was times where they had spare 2/3 players grouped by themselves used in their ball movement & running chains…

We must be better prepared and much better with our defensive positioning and structures, can’t allow them the same amount of lattitude as last time, play with a 4 quarter high pressure effort we win…

 

[Zlatan]

Yeah I honestly wish Cam Guthrie had been playing.

There's a few down at the Cattery that have gone a year too long.

Now with Bruhn out their midfield looks diabolical on paper, and losing their last 6 of 7 speaks to that.

I won’t accept any excuse if our midfield can’t dominate theirs.

 

[Benaly28]

Last time we played them, bruhn had it 19 times and cam Guthrie 27.
O.Henry and touey kicked 3 each

And we had Young and no Saad or Gov


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[DangerousD]

The one area of Carlton’s game that concerns Champion Data

“The worst return we have seen by any team over a four-game period in nine years.”

www.sen.com.au

Came across this article and it’s a bit of a surprise, what’s people thoughts on why this happens? With our tall targets and contested mids, its strange we are only going at 20% retention when we go long down the line.

We are getting smashed by repeat F50 entries and this article shows how bad.

Surely this isn’t a too big an issue to fix.

 

[carlton_99]

The one area of Carlton’s game that concerns Champion Data

“The worst return we have seen by any team over a four-game period in nine years.”

www.sen.com.au

Came across this article and it’s a bit of a surprise, what’s people thoughts on why this happens? With our tall targets and contested mids, its strange we are only going at 20% retention when we go long down the line.

We are getting smashed by repeat F50 entries and this article shows how bad.

Surely this isn’t a too big an issue to fix.

In the last five games we are second in the competition for points from defensive half (41.8pts). So at least we are being efficient.

 

[Ezayyak]

The one area of Carlton’s game that concerns Champion Data

“The worst return we have seen by any team over a four-game period in nine years.”

www.sen.com.au

Came across this article and it’s a bit of a surprise, what’s people thoughts on why this happens? With our tall targets and contested mids, its strange we are only going at 20% retention when we go long down the line.

We are getting smashed by repeat F50 entries and this article shows how bad.

Surely this isn’t a too big an issue to fix.

I'm a huge stats guy but I think this is one of those times the stat is a false negative. The last 3 weeks we've played a deliberate style of play where we play counter-turnover football for 3 quarters before using our one-wood of smash the clearances to break the game open.

Reckon one of the symptoms of the way we play is to conserve energy then to allow for the burst to occur. In all 3 games we've played about 20 minutes of relentless, brutal football to put the game away, reckon it requires some energy and hence we are kicking down the line for much of the rest of the game to conserve and relying on our defensive setup to force repeat entries out wide and ineffective.

 

[carlton_99]

Just listening to Voss' presser and it sounds like no Pittonet or Cuningham. Marchbank and Motlop sound like possibilities from what he said but can't really tell which way he's leaning on them. Very politician-like

 

[Coops93]

Cincotta to either Holmes or Miers (probably Holmes). They are the two most dangerous Geelong players in open play, outside of Jeremy Cameron. The run and carry, and ball use of those two is what makes Geelong a dangerous team.

Makes sense to have Holmes too, as the same logic applied to Touk Miller and Zach Merrett can be applied. Fog, Williams and Kennedy can keep Stewart accountable, and Danger can be a non entity outside of stoppages these days, so the midfield just has to be accountable, and we should be fine there

Cinc to Stewart for mine.

 

[DEliades]

If we honestly bring in Marchy to play on Cameron at the expense of Kemp who’s been great, I’ll spew

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Cinc to Stewart for mine.

Cinc on someone with leg speed. Holmes?

I'd play Kennedy on Stewart.

 

[Bongo Drum]

I reckon Walsh is worse , watched him on the couch and he didn’t even answer the questions and looked so nervous , made me nervous…I understand why he is reluctant to go on podcasts and tv

Remember them asking him if there was anyone at the club he asks for advice on dealing with tags and I kept waiting for him to say our footy director's name, but he didn't.

Hopefully someone's got into his ear since then. Ain't nobody better to learn from than the great Diesel himself.

 

[carlton_99]

Really not sure what the need for Fantasia is...

 

[Arr0w]

The one area of Carlton’s game that concerns Champion Data

“The worst return we have seen by any team over a four-game period in nine years.”

www.sen.com.au

Came across this article and it’s a bit of a surprise, what’s people thoughts on why this happens? With our tall targets and contested mids, its strange we are only going at 20% retention when we go long down the line.

We are getting smashed by repeat F50 entries and this article shows how bad.

Surely this isn’t a too big an issue to fix.

CD are fantastic for data, but make poor assumptions, nor do they tie that in with all factors

What needs to be added to these stats are:

• Quality of team played over that 6 week period
• Strengths and weaknesses of those 6 teams
• While only winning 20% of long down the line contests, what percentage remained in dispute and or at what point/area did we win the ball back

Ultimately you want to improve your ball moment layers, but our strength has been pressure and forward half turnovers

 

[reg_lower91]

This is what I'm thinking:
IN: Motlop, Fantasia
OUT: Durdin, Carroll
Sub: Owies (give Mots 3 quarters in first game back)

I wouldn't bring Pitto back in for this one. Would instead look to out-pace them early like Port did against them a few weeks back.

 

[Sector 7G]

CD are fantastic for data, but make poor assumptions, nor do they tie that in with all factors

What needs to be added to these stats are:

• Quality of team played over that 6 week period
• Strengths and weaknesses of those 6 teams
• While only winning 20% of long down the line contests, what percentage remained in dispute and or at what point/area did we win the ball back

Ultimately you want to improve your ball moment layers, but our strength has been pressure and forward half turnovers

It would be a worry if these bad numbers were resulting in loses, but they aren't. Other factor is did teams play extra player (s) behind the ball to take the down the line strength away from Carlton. They are surprising numbers given CC & H are 2 of the best contested marks in the league. What did these teams give up to gain this ascendency?

CD really should exclude all stats with bottom 6 teams as what you can do against them is irrelevant as you aren't playing them in finals and they skew average the numbers.

 

[Zlatan]

Really not sure what the need for Fantasia is...



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I know goals aren’t the main measure of Fantasia’s output but someone who plays in the forward half cannot be contributing 2.6 from 10 games.

 

[Coops93]

Cinc on someone with leg speed. Holmes?

I'd play Kennedy on Stewart.

Stewart has underrated speed. He'd run off Kennedy easily.

 

[Aphrodite]

Vossy's presser ...

What they said: Voss, Blues ready to go again

Michael Voss wants his team to focus on their game plan rather than the opposition.

www.carltonfc.com.au

On Jesse Motlop and Orazio Fantasia

14

Orazio Fantasia

Age

29

Ht

180cm

Wt

73kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.1

5star

G

1.4

5star

D

9.8

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

2star

G

0.2

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.0

1star

:
"They’re all fit and available. In Jesse’s case, he’s had a couple of weeks under his belt, particularly on the weekend his form was really strong and he’s been building his game after missing a large chunk of footy.
"With these guys coming back, we hope it’s creating some internal competition. They’re driving each other really hard and hopefully, it helps us find the best versions of each other. They’ve been supporting each other really well and they’re locked in on the same goal which is making us better."

On Adam Cerra and Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

:
"With them being able to come back and train, they're back out on the track and seeing them there in skills, they're both players that make us better. Hopefully, 'Cez' is available soon and Jack soon after that, it’ll be nice to get them back.

 

[Osc1]

Vossy's presser ...

What they said: Voss, Blues ready to go again

Michael Voss wants his team to focus on their game plan rather than the opposition.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Gee it’s nice to have strong depth and selection dilemmas for a change. Been a long time.